The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

[Help?!?!]

We generally take to the 073 because the 018 has a LOT of anxiety associated with it. With 073, we get a nice mellow high, but without the waves of 'fear' freaking you out. That's an important distinction to make between 018 and most other jwh's.

Just know you don't speak for everyone. I for one love JWH-018's intensity and don't ever use 073 due to lack of intensity among other things.

 

[greenmeanies]

I'm not particularly cannabis-tolerant (one bowl gets me very high, and I don't smoke more than once a day if that) but I have only noticed anxiety from 018 when it is vaporized. the peak high is just completely overwhelming, including physical jitters, cold sweats, and dysphoria. ten minutes after this phase, it settles into a decent high but the plateau only lasts an hour tops.

have you ever tried oral 073?

 

[fractal fountain]

Nope, haven't managed to figure out how to do oral with any JWH so far...

 

[tablehead]

1- Can u snort the synths? Or is smoking the only effective way.

2- How are you all smoking the pure powders? Freebasing it or just sprinkling it on some herb?

3- Do the powders taste anything like THC in a vape or smoked?

4- Do any other users find its effects far more psychadelic than THC?

 

[laxbum21]

I've seen some people that acyually put 12mgs right in their juice.

 

[laxbum21]

I wish they had jwh-019 up there on the poll too, im curious to see how many people enjoy that one. haven't seen much feedback on it. but from what i hear its pretty comparable to 250 mixed with 018. anyone have any knowledge on this?

 

[sometimeshappy]

There's surprisingly little information on here about E4/Eric-4 (the supposedly "jwh-018 alternative"), is there a reason for this? Asking this with the risk I've missed something; searching for something with only two letters is not allowed by the search engine.

 

[iom]

There is no JWH-018 alternative, but there are certainly hundreds of active cannabinoids. I'd be wary of ingesting anything with "Eric" in the name.

 

[fractal fountain]

What is the chemical formula of Eric-4? Or maybe it's in fact, one of those 'brands of herb' sprayed with synthetic cannabinoid?

 

[sometimeshappy]

No, it's not a readily made "herbmix". The supposed chemical formula is 2-(3-(4-Methoxybenzyl)-4-bromophenyl)-6-hydroxymethyltetrahydro-2H-pyran-3,4,5-triol which has been reported as bogus. I'm not allowed to post brand names here, right? It is said to be very similar to 018, without being prone to cause panic attacks, paranoia, anxiousness. Then again, I find it almost impossible to know what is true or false these days.

 

[Listening]

have you ever tried oral 073?

I've eaten a good amount of 073, mixed into a bit of vegetable oil (didn't know if it was necessary, like it is with real weed, so did it just in case - though I didn't apply heat). Personally I didn't love it (and I love weed edibles). But perhaps I didn't give it enough of a chance. I remember feeling, in addition to any weed-like high, extremely drunk-like in my intoxication. I banged into my refrigerator at one point.

 

[Coolio]

There's surprisingly little information on here about E4/Eric-4 (the supposedly "jwh-018 alternative"), is there a reason for this? Asking this with the risk I've missed something; searching for something with only two letters is not allowed by the search engine.

Here at Bluelight we discuss actual drugs; not codenames for unknown mixtures spread by vendors.

 

[sometimeshappy]

Here at Bluelight we discuss actual drugs; not codenames for unknown mixtures spread by vendors.

Alright, I'll keep that in mind and will try to find info elsewhere. In addition, I think the RC market is f-d up today. The developers who sell their substances without any (or made up) declarations whatsoever should be ashamed of themselves. Imo. I know they want to postpone bans and keep other producers from copying their products, but it's just wrong.

 

[Thanatos]

OBT-199, (4-methoxyphenyl)(1-pentyl-1H-indol-3-yl)methanone

Do you guys have any info on it? I've got a 50 mg sample and was wondering what the proper dose would be.

 

[Thanatos]

I smoked all 50 of my OBT-199 tonight, but I still don't feel nearly as high asbi would like to be. It seems to be much more selective for cb1 receptors over cb2, the high is very clear and sativa-esque, but it lacks intensity and euphoria.
I smoked all of my sample in about 45 minutes, I just finished so the duration of action is still in question.
I'm going to go for some 250 now.

 

[Thanatos]

OBT-199 has now been renamed SR-19.

 

[greenmeanies]

1- Can u snort the synths? Or is smoking the only effective way.

2- How are you all smoking the pure powders? Freebasing it or just sprinkling it on some herb?

3- Do the powders taste anything like THC in a vape or smoked?

4- Do any other users find its effects far more psychadelic than THC?

1. snorting is very ineffective because the compounds are highly lipid-soluble. (you can't really snort hash oil either) ...vaporizing and eating are the most effective routes of administration

2. when i vaporize the pure powder, i use tinfoil. it allows me to see the cloud of vapor before i inhale, so i can judge if my hit was large or small and titrate accordingly. if i use a crack/meth style glass pipe, then much of the vapor re-condenses on the inside of the tube and it is difficult to vaporize an entire dose this way without risking overshooting.

3. the powders taste nothing like THC when vaped. personally JWH-018 tastes a little bit like "new shoe smell", kinda rubbery but not that bad overall. the first thing you want to do after vaping is smoke a delicious bowl of fine green herbs to please your nose.

4. it is much easier to 'overdose' and go into white-out or OOBE territory with the synthetics. 5mg of JWH-018 can make a user very high. 50mg can make a user puke, shake, and pass out into some crazy ass dreams.

i sincerely suggest that more people should try the oral route.

1. figure out your standard vaporized dosage. probably around 15mg for people who smoke several times a day (heavy tolerance). usually 5mg for people who smoke once every day. less than that for people who only smoke once a week.

multiply your standard vaporized dosage by 12 (the number of brownies you usually make from a standard box recipe)

for highly tolerant persons, this means you need to precisely weigh out 12 * 15mg = 180mg of JWH-018. for only mildly tolerant persons, i would stick to 12 * 5 = 60mg of JWH018.

Take this 12-dose pile of JWH and stick it in a small pan that contains the correct amount of cooking oil for your box brownie recipe (usually 1/3 cup)

warm the oil/jwh mixture on low heat with stirring until you can't see any more specks of jwh. remove from heat and let it cool.

proceed with the directions on the box for making the brownies with your infused oil. remember to cut the pan into 12 squares, and enjoy!

I've found that just like with weed edibles, the high kicks in much better if you DO NOT SMOKE the day before you eat, and DO NOT SMOKE the day that you eat the brownie. if you're just going to blaze a bowl to the face, why did you make the brownie? let your body recover to 24-hour sobriety, and then you can smack it in the face with a potent brownie.

also, contents of stomach do not seem to affect the speed of onset. usually kicks in about 1 hour from ingestion. some people actually feel that eating the brownie on a FULL stomach makes it kick in about 30 minutes.

the only way you can fuck up my recipe is if you don't heed my directions. for best edible results, DO NOT SMOKE on the day you plan on eating!

 

[Jesusgreen]

Out of interest, I'm aware that smoking JWH regularly in a pipe or joint/cigarette isn't as efficient as vaping it, but just how much less efficient is it? How much more will I need? It's just I'm someone who likes to smoke quick and be done with that, I don't want to go through the hassle of trying to vape it if it's not going to save me all that much - e.g. if I need 5mg vaped but 7mg smoked - that's fine.

Also, I'm getting 1g of JWH-081 (not 018), so I'll be posting an experience report in the TR section after I've tried it - as there is a huge lack of information on this chemical and I'd like to change that

 

[CatfishRivers]

I found that smoking it atop of an herb actually works better than trying to vape it off some voil. On the foil, I could never quite hit the right temp and there was always an amber looking run off of material that would seep into the cracks and seems of the foil, and was impossible to get at after that. I use pretty much the same amount I used before except a top some herb of some sort to stop it from going straight into the bottom of the bowl upon being melted and thus easier to prevent loss of material since it just absorbs into the herb layer. At first try hovering your lighter rather than applying the flame directly, otherwise the jwh material will catch fire and you'll burn your nose hairs lol

 

[Jesusgreen]

I found that smoking it atop of an herb actually works better than trying to vape it off some voil. On the foil, I could never quite hit the right temp and there was always an amber looking run off of material that would seep into the cracks and seems of the foil, and was impossible to get at after that. I use pretty much the same amount I used before except a top some herb of some sort to stop it from going straight into the bottom of the bowl upon being melted and thus easier to prevent loss of material since it just absorbs into the herb layer. At first try hovering your lighter rather than applying the flame directly, otherwise the jwh material will catch fire and you'll burn your nose hairs lol

Alright, I'll probably do the same just with tobacco, since it's hard for me to get weed here, which is one of the reasons for me buying JWH. How about in a cig/joint - is a lot wasted?