The Big & Dandy Nitrous Thread

[bickoma]

I usually feel the same as the above poster...I've felt like I grab the secrets on the universe. On a dose of L and n2o, I felt like i found the mind space between salvia space LSD and n2o and i was right there....right in front of a life size tv screen that just showed black and white fuzz, with 3 different blocks one for each head space.
It's loads of fun while tripping but otherwise I don't feel like i get much out of it. besides WAAAAAWAAAAWAAAA

So, sort of like most psychedelics...

 

[5-HT2]

I almost always get auditory hallucinations of the people around me talking about me or laughing at me.

 

[Riemann Zeta]

Everybody's wearing sunglasses?

Sure you weren't just outdoors?

 

[Jamshyd]

Nitrous lasts long enough for "Themes"??? Thats a new one! You sure you're not taking your Nitrous on top of something else? (and yes, that includes weed)?

I get only 2 things on Nitrous, and that has always been what nitrous is for me:

1. A very fleeting experience of Nothing as such.

2. Over repeated use, a feeling of being almost just around the corner only a few metres from knowing how to think about being able to express "Nothing" in words... but that never materializes. Haha. <--- its called laughing gass for a reason: you laugh at your own pathetic self.

 

[Jabberwocky]

emptiness, nothingness, substantivelessness. Thats when using it on top of another psych.

Nothing insightful whatsoever in the sense that other serotonergic psychedelics can be (psychological insight into your life, emotional breakthroughs, etc).

A good body buzz and cool auditory hallucinations.

 

[Okonomi]

I do find some actual content with Nitrous, perceptible in the last few seconds before re-entry to normality, but it is fleeting and very hard to remember. I appear to re-experience significant scenes from my past: interactions with real people I know or have known. These are seen either from my own perspective, or from a third party viewpoint. There is a feeling of gathering a crucial piece of information about the moment, but I never quite bring it back. This just could be Nitrous playing with me of course - it often feels like that.

In my initial forays, I tried to recall the single scene I was being shown. In later experiments I got the impression that what I was trying to grasp as a single scene was actually a constellation of different events from my life, perhaps sharing a similar emotional context. Something like Grof's COEX systems, if you will.

This was with Nitrous alone, or after a little alcohol, never mixed with psychedelics as yet.

I later hypothesized that the Nitrous was somehow providing access to the space between my conscious thoughts. And that the set of related memories I was encountering there might shed some light on which particular issues are currently affecting my outlook. Just a theory, and any insight, if it is real, is extremely hard to bring back.

 

[Black]

everythings sounds metallic, strange body feeling, there are echoes and static everywhere in my vision. nothing much else.
recurring themes? every N2O trip is exactly the same for me.

 

[EntheoDjinn]

Well, William James the philosopher certainly seemed to think there was ........

"The psychedelia of the 1960s was foreshadowed by events in the waning years of the nineteenth century. This first American psychedelic movement began with an anonymous article published in 1874 in The Atlantic Monthly. The article, which was in fact written by James, reviewed The Anaesthetic Revelation and the Gist of Philosophy, a pamphlet arguing that the secrets of religion and philosophy were to be found in the rush of nitrous oxide intoxication. Inspired by this thought, James experimented with the drug, experiencing extraordinary revelations that he immediately committed to paper........"

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96may/nitrous/nitrous.htm

BTW, great thread. I love thematic analysis of psychedelic experiences . This stuff should be used as contributing data in the "COMMUNITY PROJECT - Creating an "effects profile" for psychedelics" above.

Edit: OK, OK ...... I should have read to the end of the poem that follows the excerpt I quoted . He does however have a very good bash at making some sense of it (not that I'm into religion). Nice though when philosophers take psyches. Nice when anyone takes them in fact .

 

[chicpoena]

Rainbow colored fractals have occurred in every single nitrous hit I've ever taken.

 

[Tail-of-Dogma]

Yeh I always think I have an epitomy about the true meaning of life. Funny thing is it is different every time!

 

[Tranced]

Everybody's wearing sunglasses?

Sure you weren't just outdoors?

I struggle to tell the difference generally.

 

['medicine cabinet']

WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAH in a deeper descending bass tone.

ive lost my shit more than a few times from doing too much. its weird because i know how strong it can be but i still end up hitting the balloon really hard and hearing that cacophonous sound in my head.

also when i come out of it i feel like im trying to continue somethign in my head and its over, kinda like singing in a group and when everyone stops you keep singing and everyone looks at you lol. last time that happened i heard my cousin say, "no more balloons for that man"

 

[ebola?]

*bump*

For me, nitrous is a sacrament.

If someone had described this to me, I wouldn't have believed him. Touched a Shulgin +4.

ebola

 

[ebola?]

>>I and others can talk to other humans about our insights on mushrooms, LSD, DMT, etc. But, it seems like nobody can actually articulate their insights on nitrous.
>>

It is the same psychedelic lesson...the destruction of all conceptual oppositions...a glimpse of the universe sans selfhood.

Of course we can't articulate this.

ebola

 

[burn out]

>>I and others can talk to other humans about our insights on mushrooms, LSD, DMT, etc. But, it seems like nobody can actually articulate their insights on nitrous.
>>

It is the same psychedelic lesson...the destruction of all conceptual oppositions...a glimpse of the universe sans selfhood.

Of course we can't articulate this.

ebola

yeah i feel the same way.

 

[deemster.teamster]

lol dextermeth that was a great drunk posting up above. Classic.

Anyways, I had forgotten about this thread after I wrote my query. Yes, it was intentionally flammatory (trolling ha!). I wanted to see if there were people that really had insightful experiences on it. So far nobody has shared anything meaningful (although a couple people said they have insights on it). What are the insights?

I and others can talk to other humans about our insights on mushrooms, LSD, DMT, etc. But, it seems like nobody can actually articulate their insights on nitrous.

Now, I'm open to the possibility that the insights are actual just not expressible in terms of language. Perhaps? But, I'm leaning toward the view that nitrous is in fact insight-less and is just a drug that fucks you up (this is certainly my experience with it around friends, parties, etc).

I do see it as a useful tool for punching you through to a different mindspace on some deep drug like LSD or DMT. I haven't tried it on LSD as far as I can recall but I have done it on shrooms and it was a bit wild to say the least.

anyways, peace and thanks for your responses.

I think nitrous can be insightful, but not in the same way that LSD or mushrooms are. On the latter ones I tend to have really powerful experiences that can't be articulated in words (the "true" nature of reality and all that) in addition to some interesting insights into my own existence (though these happen after the peak usually, not during). With nitrous I tend to just have equally profound, ineffable experiences, but not really any ideas relating directly to my life. I wouldn't dismiss it on these grounds as being just a drug that fucks you up, though.

I find that nitrous doesn't need to be taken on a psychedelic like LSD in order to achieve really profound effects. For me it comes down more to my environment and my expectations. Like if I'm sitting around a tank with ten other people taking balloon after balloon in a noisy environment, chances are I'm not going to have any insights beyond "gee, I'm ripped." So you could say that plenty of people use it as something to get fucked up with, but that also brings to mind all the college kids I see who take low doses of LSD or mushrooms on the weekends to get twisted.

Overall I have also a hard time articulating my insights from nitrous because the things I usually experience in a quiet, reflective set/setting usually focus around the union of opposites. This by nature defies language since as a system it is contingent upon binary opposites. And for me this experience is almost always accompanied by fragmentation, if not dissolution of the ego since the binary between self and other is similarly annihilated.

 

[Nitrous is Nice]

There's definitely something special about nitrous.

 

[VerbalTruist]

^ I disagree. For me nitrous is a trip enhancer and its fun to methodically crank through a few boxes, but there doesn't seem to be any big reveal with it.

Fun yes but not special. I guess everyone is different though.

How is it special for you?

 

[Nitrous is Nice]

Well, probably the coolest thing it has done to me was make me feel like an expanding, symmetric, rotating geometric shape made of smooth, metallic-y spheres.

That lasted for probably ~15 seconds and was coupled with the most intense euphoria of my life.

 

[delta_9]

nitrous is great and everything, but I use it a lot like enod does. I dont really use it by itself much.
ketamine + nitrous ftw