The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 7th Dose (Let's start the next bag)
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foolsgold
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the normal i when through a gram over a couple of days its strange just a real dark entity seemed to possess me its only happened twice but it seems to have past over to other chemicals as well , maybe its just warning me that iv pushed it to far and because i have very little self control tell me to calm down with the drug use, well we will see tomorrow plus il have a lovely bag of smoke to go with it hopefully that will help
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Hi everyone!
As you can see, this is my first post here although I've been following the MXE-threads here for over 6 months. First of all, I'd like to thank all of you for your evaluations, observations and comments on this substance. I'm very careful with what I'm consuming, so if I hadn't been able to access this kind information I probably wouldn't have tried MXE at all.
My experience with MXE started about two months ago and I have found that, depending on the dosage, it is very useful for different purposes.
My first couple of tries were taken orally, under my tongue as long as possible (usually I couldn't keep it there for more than 5 min) and then swallowed. Although the taste was bitter/salty it didn't bother me. I started of very low (5mg) with a very light effect that came with a slight feeling of euphoria. After a few days I tried 10mg + 10 mg, after maybe an hour or so it gave me quite an unpleasant experience where my memory and vision became quite fragmented and I remember thinking that I rather just come down asap. After this I only consume it by insufflation (snorting). For me, it is by far better than taking it orally.
I should add that so far I've not tried to dose higher than 20 mg at once and therefore I've not been close to 'holing' or any substantial mind altering experience. On 20 mg however, I feel a strong sensation of euphora and enjoy doing things a lot more than otherwise. Never 'lost control' though and have always functioned well in a social setting if that was needed.
For the last 30 days or so, I have been using MXE daily. After I wake up and had breakfast and coffee and feel steadily awake I snort app. 8-10 mg. This dosage has had a significant effect on my daily life. I feel a lot more positive, inquisitive and experience that I'm more eager to participate in social interaction. Before I've felt quite anxious, focusing on life's "bigger questions" and the terrible world we humans have created for ourselves. But with this dosage I somehow accept the things for what they are and instead try to focus on what I can do about them. Only in positive ways so far. Of course I realize that it is far from risk free to dose MXE on a daily basis, but it has worked for me and i rarely feel the need to re-dose during the course of the day.
Here are some of my negative observations.
When coming down I often experience a headache, quite a distinct one that appears on the right and left side (simultaneously) of my frontal lobe. I sometimes at night consume THC to alleviate the pain with different results. Sometimes it works really well and the pain disappears and sometimes it somehow reinforces the pain.
At night I often have severe problems with falling asleep. This is a problem that I've had for a long time but my I feeling is that it is even harder to fall asleep with MXE, and this seems to be the case for many other users. On very rare occasion I use a benzo-analogue to fall asleep, it helps effectively but I feel quite melancholic the day after. For that reason I use THC for the purpose of falling asleep which helps most of the times. Once I've fallen asleep I can sleep for many hours and I wake up feeling like a million bucks.
Another thing I've noticed is a kind of suction in the upper parts of my stomach. It last for a very short period of time (few sec, one min tops) and it's not unpleasant in any way, just "weird". Usually it manifests itself a few minutes after the intake. Does anyone else had this experience?
I also have had bladder problems maybe a day or two out of these 30 days, where I feel that I have to urinate a lot more often than usually. Prostate cancer is in my family genes, so it might be attributed to that, but since other users report similar bladder behavior I strongly suspect that it is because of the MXE. Although it is a concern, it has happened so rarely that I don't regard it as a big problem for now.
That's it for now. Once again, thanks to all of you guys for adding vital information about this substance and I'm looking forward to be a bit more active in my own sharing of experiences.
Be well and stay safe!
As you can see, this is my first post here although I've been following the MXE-threads here for over 6 months. First of all, I'd like to thank all of you for your evaluations, observations and comments on this substance. I'm very careful with what I'm consuming, so if I hadn't been able to access this kind information I probably wouldn't have tried MXE at all.
My experience with MXE started about two months ago and I have found that, depending on the dosage, it is very useful for different purposes.
My first couple of tries were taken orally, under my tongue as long as possible (usually I couldn't keep it there for more than 5 min) and then swallowed. Although the taste was bitter/salty it didn't bother me. I started of very low (5mg) with a very light effect that came with a slight feeling of euphoria. After a few days I tried 10mg + 10 mg, after maybe an hour or so it gave me quite an unpleasant experience where my memory and vision became quite fragmented and I remember thinking that I rather just come down asap. After this I only consume it by insufflation (snorting). For me, it is by far better than taking it orally.
I should add that so far I've not tried to dose higher than 20 mg at once and therefore I've not been close to 'holing' or any substantial mind altering experience. On 20 mg however, I feel a strong sensation of euphora and enjoy doing things a lot more than otherwise. Never 'lost control' though and have always functioned well in a social setting if that was needed.
For the last 30 days or so, I have been using MXE daily. After I wake up and had breakfast and coffee and feel steadily awake I snort app. 8-10 mg. This dosage has had a significant effect on my daily life. I feel a lot more positive, inquisitive and experience that I'm more eager to participate in social interaction. Before I've felt quite anxious, focusing on life's "bigger questions" and the terrible world we humans have created for ourselves. But with this dosage I somehow accept the things for what they are and instead try to focus on what I can do about them. Only in positive ways so far. Of course I realize that it is far from risk free to dose MXE on a daily basis, but it has worked for me and i rarely feel the need to re-dose during the course of the day.
Here are some of my negative observations.
When coming down I often experience a headache, quite a distinct one that appears on the right and left side (simultaneously) of my frontal lobe. I sometimes at night consume THC to alleviate the pain with different results. Sometimes it works really well and the pain disappears and sometimes it somehow reinforces the pain.
At night I often have severe problems with falling asleep. This is a problem that I've had for a long time but my I feeling is that it is even harder to fall asleep with MXE, and this seems to be the case for many other users. On very rare occasion I use a benzo-analogue to fall asleep, it helps effectively but I feel quite melancholic the day after. For that reason I use THC for the purpose of falling asleep which helps most of the times. Once I've fallen asleep I can sleep for many hours and I wake up feeling like a million bucks.
Another thing I've noticed is a kind of suction in the upper parts of my stomach. It last for a very short period of time (few sec, one min tops) and it's not unpleasant in any way, just "weird". Usually it manifests itself a few minutes after the intake. Does anyone else had this experience?
I also have had bladder problems maybe a day or two out of these 30 days, where I feel that I have to urinate a lot more often than usually. Prostate cancer is in my family genes, so it might be attributed to that, but since other users report similar bladder behavior I strongly suspect that it is because of the MXE. Although it is a concern, it has happened so rarely that I don't regard it as a big problem for now.
That's it for now. Once again, thanks to all of you guys for adding vital information about this substance and I'm looking forward to be a bit more active in my own sharing of experiences.
Be well and stay safe!
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missimoo
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so ...to cut out the talk that would break rules... (long story short) ...i managed to get my hands on some of the "salty" texture batch, compared to the "floury" texture...thats been voiced by some as "just more finely ground" but i believed to be less strong.....i can confirm by effect that the salty-textured (not enough to call crystals,but isnt the loose fine floury powder) batch is maybe 3x as strong as the floury stuff thats been floating around.
i have no means to carry out a proper test of the two... I have some of each.... But it is defo "like for like" ...3x as strong. ...I thought maybe it was me… tolerance.. But having both with me, and comparing by effect. The floury stuff is defo inferior.
i have no means to carry out a proper test of the two... I have some of each.... But it is defo "like for like" ...3x as strong. ...I thought maybe it was me… tolerance.. But having both with me, and comparing by effect. The floury stuff is defo inferior.
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I've only used my MXE twice (28-30 mgs) and both times have been orally. I usually fail at dumping it under my tounge as the powder usually falls on top of my tounge so I end up holding it there probably for no more then a minute tops.
I don't know if it's just me but it takes forever for the come up. I'm talking over an hour and at that point I'm already thinking about redosing.
So my next time using I'm thinking about snorting.
I noticed everyone who mentions any bad effects or bad after glow are the ones who pretty much abuse it(a gram in a couple days?). In the other MXE thread one guy said he knocked out a gram in one night. And yea, he's having bad effects off it now....DUH! It's clear over using this substance will leave you with adverse effects. We need to practice self control here folks. We literally are lab rats here testing this shit and here we are taking it every day like it's candy. And then we wonder why the product we love so much makes us feel like SHIT!
These RCs just flat out make me nervous. I've had my MXE for almost 2 weeks, and I've only used it twice. (2 times, back to back days due to the fact that I under dosed the first time.)
I noticed from using other RCs like 2c-e/i that the thought of me over using leads to some anxiety during trips. Even if I used 2 times in 2 weeks, during a trip I'll have the thoughts of " Damn why am I injesting something I have no clue about? What am I, fucking stupid or something, I'm frying my brain." Even though I know my uses are more than likely harmless because I rarely use, being on these mind altering substances cause those thought loops more then ever even though before and after the trip I never think like that.
I enjoyed the MXE feeling but I don't want any bladder problems, dark feelings, constipation and all this other weird shit that I normally don't have just because I want a buzz. So I'll try to keep my uses at MAX to once every two weeks. The second I feel anything odd going on that doesn't normally, I'm quitting. So far, so good though.
I've only used my MXE twice (28-30 mgs) and both times have been orally. I usually fail at dumping it under my tounge as the powder usually falls on top of my tounge so I end up holding it there probably for no more then a minute tops.
I don't know if it's just me but it takes forever for the come up. I'm talking over an hour and at that point I'm already thinking about redosing.
So my next time using I'm thinking about snorting.
I noticed everyone who mentions any bad effects or bad after glow are the ones who pretty much abuse it(a gram in a couple days?). In the other MXE thread one guy said he knocked out a gram in one night. And yea, he's having bad effects off it now....DUH! It's clear over using this substance will leave you with adverse effects. We need to practice self control here folks. We literally are lab rats here testing this shit and here we are taking it every day like it's candy. And then we wonder why the product we love so much makes us feel like SHIT!
These RCs just flat out make me nervous. I've had my MXE for almost 2 weeks, and I've only used it twice. (2 times, back to back days due to the fact that I under dosed the first time.)
I noticed from using other RCs like 2c-e/i that the thought of me over using leads to some anxiety during trips. Even if I used 2 times in 2 weeks, during a trip I'll have the thoughts of " Damn why am I injesting something I have no clue about? What am I, fucking stupid or something, I'm frying my brain." Even though I know my uses are more than likely harmless because I rarely use, being on these mind altering substances cause those thought loops more then ever even though before and after the trip I never think like that.
I enjoyed the MXE feeling but I don't want any bladder problems, dark feelings, constipation and all this other weird shit that I normally don't have just because I want a buzz. So I'll try to keep my uses at MAX to once every two weeks. The second I feel anything odd going on that doesn't normally, I'm quitting. So far, so good though.
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I use MXE in a medicinal fashion mostly, a nice afterglow being my primary goal, so I'm glad to say I've not had any of the bad effects/come downs others are getting!
I had 1g previously which lasted me 2 months dosing twice a week. ~80-100mg on a Saturday and then a smaller ~10-20mg on Wednesday. I noticed that the afterglow was much more prevalent at smaller doses but I never have a bad come down even on the high dose. I've even holed a couple of times at 60mg+ in different settings without any negative psychological effects.
Of course it's important to be safe and in that interest I'm cutting out my mid-week dose. To help with that, the batch I just got in (5g this time :D) seems a lot stronger than the previous one, meaning I'll be able to tweak my dose lower and maximise in-trip enjoyment as well as afterglow longevity. It's very fluffy, almost snowflake-like, which doesn't seem to fit with what I'm hearing about the fluffier stuff being weaker![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
The previous batch (my only comparison) was more crystalline and a lot more clumpy.
I had 1g previously which lasted me 2 months dosing twice a week. ~80-100mg on a Saturday and then a smaller ~10-20mg on Wednesday. I noticed that the afterglow was much more prevalent at smaller doses but I never have a bad come down even on the high dose. I've even holed a couple of times at 60mg+ in different settings without any negative psychological effects.
Of course it's important to be safe and in that interest I'm cutting out my mid-week dose. To help with that, the batch I just got in (5g this time :D) seems a lot stronger than the previous one, meaning I'll be able to tweak my dose lower and maximise in-trip enjoyment as well as afterglow longevity. It's very fluffy, almost snowflake-like, which doesn't seem to fit with what I'm hearing about the fluffier stuff being weaker
The previous batch (my only comparison) was more crystalline and a lot more clumpy.
foolsgold
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yer thats what im hoping and its not a perment problem , i know iv done alot nowhere near the amounts some people have but i think its other chemicals i do im normal doing 2-dmpm cut with 4-meo-pcp and benzo fury and the sweeping ups of mxe n mesket i get it really cheap as its better than him slinging it
eye_wide_open
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eye_wide_open
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Your concerns are all very well founded.
Smart head on your shoulders.
Tread lightly. Who knows what we are doing to ourselves.
I for one am happy to have experienced what I have on MXE.
But really who knows what it's going to do to me.
When you are high, MXE can tell you to quit all drugs.
IMO, if you end up quitting all the drugs, MXE was a major benefit to you.
But 20 years later you could be a vegetable. We just don't know.
Ever since my couple of high dose experiences I've been having slight dizzy bouts here and there. Nothing that knocks me off my feet, I just get a little dizzy fuzzy feeling every once in a while while sober. That seems to be the only effect that has not gone away after stopping use of the drug.
I'll admit, the kidney pain thing was scary at first for me. I learned to not take high doses and binge for days at a time and the kidney thing doesn't happen anymore.
I know I can't sit here using this stuff daily or forever. That's just a bad idea.
It's so pleasant though it's tough not to use some when it's sitting in front of you.
You have to practice adult control. Be a grown up.
To be grown up is to be able to delay pleasure.
That said, all I did was 10mg last night with a pile of 300 sitting in front of me.
My lowest dose yet. It seems I dose lower and lower and lower the more I use it but I still get high off the stuff..
If you just did say 10mg of some random powder once every two weeks I'm sure this stuff would never hurt you. IF you're doing a couple hundred mg a night I think you have problems. You should probably cut it out, that's not going to be good for you.
There's a reason MXE is making you realize you are taking a research chemical. Because you are!
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Issac Sinclair
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The white floury stuff isn't as good IMO. I am glad I still have the 'regular' yellow grainy stuff.
i need to take 2x more of the flowery stuff than from the yellow and even then there isn't much tripping
eye_wide_open
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It's clear we'll never make sense of our differing experiences with differing consistencies.
Our last several posts have contradicted each other heavily.
yellow fluffy
white fluffy
yellow grainy
white grainy
white grainy with clumps
white grainy with clumps and shiny
yellow grainy with clumps
sticky and clumpy
etc etc etc. I've heard it described so many ways, we'll never agree on one thing.
Something we can agree on is if it all burns the same way or reacts the same when about to be burnt after being finely chopped and has the same clean burn to it.
Our last several posts have contradicted each other heavily.
yellow fluffy
white fluffy
yellow grainy
white grainy
white grainy with clumps
white grainy with clumps and shiny
yellow grainy with clumps
sticky and clumpy
etc etc etc. I've heard it described so many ways, we'll never agree on one thing.
Something we can agree on is if it all burns the same way or reacts the same when about to be burnt after being finely chopped and has the same clean burn to it.
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Issac Sinclair
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Maybe it has something to do with the dexterity or whatever that thing is called.
I preferred eating it, and now I snort it because its not very active orally.
I preferred eating it, and now I snort it because its not very active orally.
Xamkou
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Bored of MXE now, I feel I have exhausted it
Think I'll try some other dissociatives soon
Think I'll try some other dissociatives soon
Issac Sinclair
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Like what?
The PCP analogs seem kinda dangerous, or rather neurotoxic.
K is good if you can get it, I never tried it tho.
The PCP analogs seem kinda dangerous, or rather neurotoxic.
K is good if you can get it, I never tried it tho.
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i think becoming dehydrated, if only mildly, on MXE leads to the headache. only time ive gotten a bad headache is when ive become dehydrated
random pic of two batches, both good if i recall
i only take MXE these days for the afterglow, although havent taken it for a few weeks because my latest batch has been pretty shit. got some K though, only ever had one gram of K before, gonna give this a try over the weekend
anyone find the afterglow allows them to focus on things better, and anaylze things like conversation, makes them listen better etc? and feel very creative? such a good motivator and productive glow as well, love it
random pic of two batches, both good if i recall
i only take MXE these days for the afterglow, although havent taken it for a few weeks because my latest batch has been pretty shit. got some K though, only ever had one gram of K before, gonna give this a try over the weekend
anyone find the afterglow allows them to focus on things better, and anaylze things like conversation, makes them listen better etc? and feel very creative? such a good motivator and productive glow as well, love it
Ok so Ive acquired some of this stuff recently and have yet to try it as im still building up my knowledge before diving head long into it.
Mines a yellowish powder, thinner than any mandy ive ever had with a gritty course texture. Is that sounding about right?
From what ive read railing 30-50mg seems to be the best course for taking it? shame I have no way to accurately measure it...
If for example I go out this weekend, take 2 E's and then take this stuff when I get in four hours+ later that should be ok right?
Anyother tips would be appreciated but Ive read the 60 odd page megathread so have a fairly firm grasp on what to expect :D
Mines a yellowish powder, thinner than any mandy ive ever had with a gritty course texture. Is that sounding about right?
From what ive read railing 30-50mg seems to be the best course for taking it? shame I have no way to accurately measure it...
If for example I go out this weekend, take 2 E's and then take this stuff when I get in four hours+ later that should be ok right?
Anyother tips would be appreciated but Ive read the 60 odd page megathread so have a fairly firm grasp on what to expect :D
eye_wide_open
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You're going to want to fix that at all costs. Don't forget to allergy test too.
^^^ Yeah Dan this stuff opens me up to better conversations, higher understandings of relationships and I become much more easy to communicate with on deeper levels and about more important matters.
What I have seems to a be a mix of consistencies in comparison to your two samples, but I can't actually dive into your bags and see if there is at all any tiny pebbles or tiny chunks in there. What I have is micro fine white grains, no shine to them. There is also some small pebbles/clumps in there. They are small but there seems to be many. They are hard to see in the bag until you begin to chop the stuff up.
I think any large enough bag of MXE will develop some powdery material to it eventually because of the fact that it can break down finely.
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