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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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I'm sorry for the surrealistic messages I wrote yesterday night while under the effects.. at that moment it made sense!

I wrote a message to psood0nym about a comic book titled "the eternals, #1", by Neil Gaiman (you can easily google it if you're curious); it is because in the middle of the trip I got the "message" or "revelation" that psood0nym had invented the story of the comic book in the past to convince himself about the reality of his visions while under the effect of Methoxetamine by reading it!

Apparently (according to my "Methoxetamine dreams"), the information that can be extracted from the "bee-hive" (as I called the "psychological (or other) place" were methox. takes you ;) is extremely difficult to express during what we know as our "waking" life. The best we can do is to write fantastic stories, myths and songs that somehow reflect some aspects of that "other reality" or conscious state.

I also agree with agneta when she writes "very similar to the transition between sleep and awake consciousness". (I haven't tried it out of my bed yet! I do not feel like this drug would be)the best option for a party though)

I very strongly feel like I can read my girlfriends thoughts while she's sleeping and starting to awake! That's the most amazing feeling I got, the sharing of my unconscious with a lot of other people's unconscious thoughts (another dreamers or psychonauts or just my imagination -it really feels like other people's descriptions of what the noosphere is supposed to be to me!)
 
Ne0 said:
Hmm anyone other experiencing tinnitus while on this? It seems to be such case also with DXM, ketamine, ether and with all the other dissociatives. I wonder why. I usually listen music but this got me to learn how to do it. IME its great for learning how things work. Gets your attention to think how and why.

I've learned a lot about social interaction and made me realize what love, respect and caring is in plain. Some religious text make lots of sense now. Like what sharing means and what golden rule is about. It's not about giving things but giving yourself if you know what I mean. Also when you give its not about that he owe you now, but you get with giving, like more you give more you get.


Very interesting substance.
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I already have tinnitus in one ear anyway but this definitely cranks it up and starts it in the other one too. Subsides after the effects fall off and because I'm feeling so relaxed it doesn't bother me that much.
 
@incognition
Good points, My experiences have been almost entirely positive but I have kept doses relatively low, infrequent and avoid redosing.

I think this experience really needs to be approached with respect and caution.
The effects are powerful and somewhat unique. It really seems to give the brain a good rinsing and I fear some people are not going to like what starts falling out.

I worry about what will happen when it becomes more widely available, the relatively small active dose, the long duration of effects, the slow come up, the massive time distortion, doses stacking, I could see all these things leading to problems in people with wreckless inclinations.
 
I am in no way recommending this but I have noticed that if you smoke a rock and then do a 10-15mg bump of MXE as it wears off the desire to hit the pipe again virtually vanishes. Hit the pipe twice in a five hour period then put it away, which is unheard of for me.
 
agnetha, could you tell me where did you ordered from? I'm living outside UK, so I can't have experience with this product.

Also interested in combining this and another product. What do you think it should be?
If Methoxetamine works as dissociatives like DXM so it can be combined with a "speedy" product to make your vision more concetrate and your body more attractive for dancing. Don't you think so?
 
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agnetha, could you tell me where did you ordered from? I'm living outside UK, so I can't have experience with this product.

Also interested in combining this and another product. What do you think it should be?
If Methoxetamine works as dissociatives like DXM so it can be combined with a "speedy" product to make your vision more concetrate and your body more attractive for dancing. Don't you think so?
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Sourcing is frowned upon here, but regarding your other questions: I was tempted to take one or the other stimulant during the experience. I felt it would go along great with methoxetamine, but I refrained from doing so. I'll report back if this gut feeling was right, if I do a combo like this during a subsequent experiment. Obvious candidates in my view would be some cathinone, or a substance like methylone or 4FA. Íf this would be a safe thing to do is another good question I cannot answer. I recently stumbled over a post in another thread where someone (Mugabe if I'm not mistaken) mentioned that they combined methoxetamine and 2C-I (which is a very stimulating halucinogenic) with great success. On its own methoxetamine to me felt more like a drug for a night in rather then something you'd do in a club or at a party. But dancing was quite possible without adding something else.
 
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What do you think if taking this with MDAI? Anyone tried? Is there any possible dangers?
 
The 25mg I started with several nights ago became 100mg, taken over a period of 4 or 5 hours.

A very complex experience that I'll need to repeat several times before I even begin to make sense of its wide-ranging effects - something I very much look forward to doing.

The afterglow, to echo others, is incredible. Very clear-headed. Everything seems easier. I'm filled with a renewed enthusiasm for all aspects of life, much like I expect the day after a near-death experience to feel (food tastes better, birds sing sweeter, sunshine's brighter, etc.).
 
exactly; a "near death experience". It take us to dreamland, the bardo, heaven, god, the other reality, the noosphere, the entheosphere, between waking and dreaming, connecting the right and left brain hemisphere, gaia mind, cosmic consciousness, to the collective unconscious, the interstices of a dream, what I like to call "the bee-hive" (maybe it is because I'm spanish!).

I agree.

today, just by coincidence, I read a book who rhymes with that feeling: "I bet you thought that the Ten Commandments were written for you to obey another of a higher authority, right? Of course, we should adhere to their principals, but did you know that the Ten Commandments were written for us to use so that our creation can obey US? The Ten Commandments are structured so that YOU say them from YOUR viewpoint. You have probably never heard of this before, have you? Well, that is because we have gotten into our creation (our physical world) so deep we think “we are the creation.” Well, as you have learned in course 3, we are the creators of everything we see and do and think. What we see is just the reflection of our own mind, and the Ten Commandments are the reflection of what we as gods actually command to our creation. Go to Exodus, "And God spoke all these words: "you shall not have other gods before me. You shall not make yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or on the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them for I the Lord your God, am a jealous god"

Just imagine you are looking into the mirror and saying the first commandment,
1. You shall have no other gods before me.Who is saying those words and making that reflection in the
mirror? An entity called Yahweh, Jahovah, Elohim, etc.,etc., etc.? Nope, guess again, how about, YOU?
It appears that we have turned reality upside down and backwards to get out of taking responsibility. We
have done the impossible - making the image real and then obeying it. We have even made an image with initials "US" so that we might escape responsibility and say "the world must obey US (UNITED
STATES)"! In reality, our own world (our image including the UNITED SATES) must obey each one of
us!
Since our creation is also a reflection of ourselves, we also must heed this universal principal. We can
have no other gods before us so that we worship (create worth) anything else more than we value
ourselves. We are responsible for our universe alone and not another – how can they be? How can
another be responsible for your actions and your deeds – it is an impossibility. Did another think your
thoughts, DO your actions and move your body. Even though a number of major religions will “argue”
otherwise, YOU ARE GUILTY.
Go to the mirror and say the first commandment to your reflection (your creation). Now have your study partner stand beside you and have them say it LOOKING DIRECTLY AT YOUR REFLECTION.
Did you feel that they were talking to you? Was your partner talking to you or YOUR REFLECTION.
Trade saying this back and forth in the mirror until you have a cognition or realization. You shall not make unto you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth, you shall not bow down yourself to them, nor
serve them Graven Heb pecel – idol, to carve wood or stone, grave, hew.

Image – there is no word for image, it was added to aid in understanding of GRAVEN.
Likeness Heb temunah – something portioned or fashioned out, a shape, phantom, embodiment or manifestation; representation.
Bow Heb shachah – to depress, prostrate (in homage to royalty), fall down, humbly beseech, obey, make to stoop, worship; related to sachah – make to swim, inundate.
Serve Heb abad – to work, serve, till, enslave, keep in bondage or service (this is the same root word as Exodus 2:5 “there was not man to till the ground”, and same as “bondman” when Israel was in Egypt.

Remember, you are saying this to the mirror - to your creation. So why would we want to make a law like this? Well, what if you started submitting to the image in the mirror (your creation) and you obeyed it every time it spoke to you or gave you a ticket or got a nasty letter from it? "The government says this….", or "the TV said that…", "this statute says we cannot do...", "the LAW says we must
conform…", "the Bank says they are going to take my house…".

WHY ARE YOU LISTENING TO AND WORSHIPPING YOUR OWN CREATION???? Who is running your universe anyway - You or them?"

It is from a book called "A Total Eclipse Of Freedom", by Burnice L. Russ, that you can read on scribd [dot] com
 
the message from this drug, to me, seems to be that we are mythological beings, immortals if you like, that lose memory every time we born, every roll of the dice... sometimes we remember in dreams, or under entheogenic or near death experiences, who we are...

we are the universe. we are our own creators, all of us, every grain of sand, every universe in every wild flower.

we are always living our wildest dreams.

that seems to be the message (+ much much more) to me
 
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cosmic._.ape said:
I wrote a message to psood0nym about a comic book titled "the eternals, #1", by Neil Gaiman (you can easily google it if you're curious); it is because in the middle of the trip I got the "message" or "revelation" that psood0nym had invented the story of the comic book in the past to convince himself about the reality of his visions while under the effect of Methoxetamine by reading it!
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Yet I've never read "The Eternals" nor taken methoxetamine. I believe a lot of what drugs can teach us can be extracted from a sober analysis of the specifics of the delusions they create.
 
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Yet I've never read "The Eternals" nor taken methoxetamine. I believe a lot of what drugs can teach us can be extracted from a sober analysis of the specifics of the delusions they create.
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yes I knew it, but it doesn't break my personal integration of my imagination with now, as you are supposed to have lost memory of who you are at birth! (;)
 
To be clear, though I respect all interpretations, I'm not being a metaphysicist when I refer to a near-death experience. I'm actually being quite literal. The death is that of the ego, which, once lost, is eventually 'reborn' in sobriety.

On a simpler level, it's such a shocking experience that it's inevitably reinvigorating and life-affirming.

That aside, further sober discourse with my time on MXE has led me to believe that the drug affords us a wider conscious experience: an abstract awareness of brain processes ordinarily opaque to the waking mind. Specifically, I'm thinking of the parts of the brain most active during sleep (especially REM sleep). This makes sense for a variety of reasons which I hope to eventually have time and insight enough to elaborate on.
 
Have a firly average to high k tolernace. found snorting 50mg put me in a nice dream land with similar effects to k but definelty could feel opiate effect. eneded up doing all i had in a few hours, at one point felt amazing, very blissful and happy and dreamy. good drug but wont buy again until price goes down. i f u have no k tolerance go for 30mg snorted i would say and work your way up. no comedown but was awake for awhile.

sNORT ALL THE WAY OR im IF THATS CHOICE DONT BOTHER WITH ORAL.
 
^Do you base the oral comment on experience with methoxetamine or just based on oral experience with ket?

For me, insufflation is the least efficient of the 3 ROA's I've tried with mxe. Oral @ 45mg was far stronger than 50mg snorted. And so was 35mg sublingual. Maybe my nose is just inefficient these days.

45mg oral works a treat I found last night, disolve in a small amount of water and it hits you in about 20mins.
 
I think everyone who has experienced this compound knows its potential. Mdma is being tested in clinical trials for `post-traumatic stress disorder` and was used in psychotherapy. I believe this rc would be more effective. Anyone with more knowledge than me care to comment?
 
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I think everyone who has experienced this compound knows its potential. Mdma is being tested in clinical trials for `post-traumatic stress disorder` and was used in psychotherapy. I believe this rc would be more effective. Anyone with more knowledge than me care to comment?
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i don't know if have more knowledge than you, but I agree. Beware, mdma has changed the world, and this one, as you wrote, seems to have more potential. (!)
 
Is this the next new you can only buy from official vendors, we made up a name and won't tell you what it really is product????? lol.......

Can someone sum up the past 16 pages so i can catch up as i havent been around much lately...
 
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