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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

What the final verdict on flashbacks? I thought they here a myth and just exaggerated from PTSD and HPPD. The study above talks about them as if they where all one in the same.
 
Delta-9-THC said:
What the final verdict on flashbacks? I thought they here a myth and just exaggerated from PTSD and HPPD. The study above talks about them as if they where all one in the same.
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flashbacks and HPPD are different. Many people claim they have acid flashabcks alot though.

HPPD is just consistent visual disturbances that dont go away probably due to alterations in parts of the brain that are used to filter out certain visual phenomenons.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
HPPD is not eye floaters. It's visual disturbances that stay with you after all drug use has ceased. These disturbances include light sensitivity, visuals static, color confusion, afterimages, trails, intensified colors like plants (tree's especially), There are more but i dont feel like listing them.

Alot of people seem to deny the fact that HPPD is very real. The amount of people effected by it seems to be pretty low but its there nonetheless.
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I know what HPPD is, I was joking...but thanx anyway.
 
I reckon I do mildly, if I haven't slept lines/tiles morph as I walk past them, put it down to having taken LSD around 20 times in the past 2 years

my mates was talking the other day about how he thought LSD strengthened neurons in your brain, neurons that make you trip, that are activated by hallucinogens.. After LSD they are stronger (as any neuron is after being used) and that is why people often report things looking 'different' after tripping..

Just a theory but it made sense to me, after all you can exercise your brain
 
tekkeN said:
I reckon I do mildly, if I haven't slept lines/tiles morph as I walk past them, put it down to having taken LSD around 20 times in the past 2 years

my mates was talking the other day about how he thought LSD strengthened neurons in your brain, neurons that make you trip, that are activated by hallucinogens.. After LSD they are stronger (as any neuron is after being used) and that is why people often report things looking 'different' after tripping..

Just a theory but it made sense to me, after all you can exercise your brain
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They wouldn't be stronger they would be weaker. They're weaker because they can no longer filter out the disturbances that you're now seeing in your vision.
 
I dont think i have HPPD, but i do experience on a daily basis a very 'grainy/static' view of my surroundings.. this is after heavy psychedelic use over 2 years, mainly RC's and LSD.. sometimes slight tracer effects of objects in motion, but not very often.

Delta-9-THC said:
What the final verdict on flashbacks? I thought they here a myth and just exaggerated from PTSD and HPPD. The study above talks about them as if they where all one in the same.
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I thought it was a myth until marijuana on its own provoked it one time for myself, it's never happened 'out of the blue' for me, its only been brought upon via something else. It involved LSD like visuals and a like mental mindframe, scared the hell out of me because i obviously didn't expect it.. in a way it felt more intense because of the unexpectedness of it, brought me back to my first interactions with people on LSD and how confronting it was.

I guess i had that one coming, 6 weekends straight of dosing. ;)
 
I don't have HPPD as such, but I believe I have occasionally suffered from HPPD-like symptoms for maybe several weeks at a time at most, usually after heavy dosing of stimulants and/or psychedelics.

I've had cannabis-induced flashbacks too. They usually happen to me if I smoke weed soon after a psychedelic experience. Although I believe it's not really a flashback, but just the psychedelic experience still being so "fresh" in the memory so the effects of cannabis will synergize with it...
 
After Todaday/yesterday wahtever I realized I DEFINATELY have fucking HPPD... I've noticed visual disturbances here and there, which was mostly afterimages, I havn't slept for 2 days, and it seems my small hppd symptoms got 100x stronger, right now I can stare at my wall, at my dresser, it looks like a scrumbly tv... (visual static) but not like its behind static, as if my field of vision is a scrumbly tv..., and I was outside during a barbeque hour or two ago and I was looking at the sky, I noticed floaters, lots of them, dont think thats hppd though, but then I got a ton of little "sparks" in the sky, it looks like abunch of sparks shooting around the sky in the motion of a fly flying around, the more I zoned out the more they came to life..

Other mild things I notice in day to day life, not today/yesterday whatever is things being blurred, like when you look at a light and it has that glare, its like any small light has a blurr glare to it. Then when I smoke weed it extends from a small glare to like glaring 2x bigger than a bright streetlight glare, and when i smoke weed my afterimages are much more noticable, or enhanced... I think when I'm not stoned, which is not often. I only have afterimages and color confusion but holy fuck right now it looks like any surface is crawling with static, like its alive haha


Does anybody have any advice or information to share with me about what I've explained?
 
The Winner!! said:
After Todaday/yesterday wahtever I realized I DEFINATELY have fucking HPPD... I've noticed visual disturbances here and there, which was mostly afterimages, I havn't slept for 2 days, and it seems my small hppd symptoms got 100x stronger, right now I can stare at my wall, at my dresser, it looks like a scrumbly tv... (visual static) but not like its behind static, as if my field of vision is a scrumbly tv..., and I was outside during a barbeque hour or two ago and I was looking at the sky, I noticed floaters, lots of them, dont think thats hppd though, but then I got a ton of little "sparks" in the sky, it looks like abunch of sparks shooting around the sky in the motion of a fly flying around, the more I zoned out the more they came to life..

Other mild things I notice in day to day life, not today/yesterday whatever is things being blurred, like when you look at a light and it has that glare, its like any small light has a blurr glare to it. Then when I smoke weed it extends from a small glare to like glaring 2x bigger than a bright streetlight glare, and when i smoke weed my afterimages are much more noticable, or enhanced... I think when I'm not stoned, which is not often. I only have afterimages and color confusion but holy fuck right now it looks like any surface is crawling with static, like its alive haha


Does anybody have any advice or information to share with me about what I've explained?
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Sounds like you got mild HPPD dude. If i were you i would stop all drug use starting with weed. i get a couple of the symptoms you mentioned. The best thing to do right now is to not get freaked out about it. I know its hard because the visuals are there 24/7 but in time you'll learn to ignore it. Hppdonline.com is a cool website headed by a guy who is just now starting research on HPPD. He'll be studying it in with a few other people i think.

There are meds that are reported to have helped numerous people with HPPD. Keppra and klonopin are the 2 main ones. Sign up at hppdonline.com, we can always use more people in the community to share thoughts with.
 
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It's not considered HPPD unless it becomes a nuisance or a distraction to everyday life. I think The Winner!! is just over-analyzing and confusing sleep deprivation, along with not taking a break from substances, with HPPD.
 
No, It's there all the time, just last night from sleep deprivation it amplified it to an extreme. none of it really bothers me except the afterimages/color confusion. It's like I look at something and i look away and its outlines stay in my vision and as an example of the color confusion, its like I can look at a blank white piece of paper, and then see it as 2 different colors similar to eachother (ex. white and light blue), then i look at both colors a couple times then it goes back.

It get's amplified when I smoke weed or sleep deprivation, not that bad when I wake up in the morning~ but it definately is still there. Another thing is visual static, in dark areas only but it's sort of annoying.

Shaolin, when you say abstain from all drugs, does that mean forever? Or should I just stop doing anything for a week or two?
 
not so sure if this counts. but i get wall movement like the begining of a shroom trip if i look at a wall too long. kinda like im keeping one eye still and the other is moving.

also: i quit smoking weed about two weeks ago to see if i could halt the movement, because it was always alot worse on days i smoked. still no luck.
 
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The Winner!! said:
No, It's there all the time, just last night from sleep deprivation it amplified it to an extreme. none of it really bothers me except the afterimages/color confusion. It's like I look at something and i look away and its outlines stay in my vision and as an example of the color confusion, its like I can look at a blank white piece of paper, and then see it as 2 different colors similar to eachother (ex. white and light blue), then i look at both colors a couple times then it goes back.

It get's amplified when I smoke weed or sleep deprivation, not that bad when I wake up in the morning~ but it definately is still there. Another thing is visual static, in dark areas only but it's sort of annoying.

Shaolin, when you say abstain from all drugs, does that mean forever? Or should I just stop doing anything for a week or two?
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How often are you sober? My guess is if you abstained from using substances for 6 months, you wouldn't notice any of it. It would still be there, except you wouldn't be paranoid about it (not saying that you are, but the way you talk about it sounds like you're overly worried of it being HPPD).

When I used MDMA once a week for a month, I noticed the same things that you're talking about. Once I took a break from everything after that one month binge (including Cannabis), for about 6 months, it just disappeared. Even when I started smoking again.
 
Ugh, it would be so hard for me to stay away from weed for 6 months, because I love it and also because It's just.. A part of my life, so many people I know always have it and smoke it.
 
If you think you're having symptoms of HPPD the last thing you want to do is continue your drug use as this could further complicate your issues. Theres a chance your visual disturbances can go away on their own, but then theres a chance they wont. I've stopped using all drugs for about 2 and a half months now since i got HPPD and my visuals are still with me as strong as the day they came on.
 
I havn't done many drugs though! DXM once, MDMA once, LSD twice, mushrooms like 7 times and weed atleast a thousand times. I noticed I got the mild static from using mushrooms, then when I started trying acid, after those 2 times I've had this milkd HPPD with more than just the static. I really want to further my psychedelic exploration and see what else there is to experience, I feel theres so much more to experience.

But I also don't want to be stuck with it, but if I was it's not like it would ruin my life.
 
The Winner!! said:
I havn't done many drugs though! DXM once, MDMA once, LSD twice, mushrooms like 7 times and weed atleast a thousand times. I noticed I got the mild static from using mushrooms, then when I started trying acid, after those 2 times I've had this milkd HPPD with more than just the static. I really want to further my psychedelic exploration and see what else there is to experience, I feel theres so much more to experience.

But I also don't want to be stuck with it, but if I was it's not like it would ruin my life.
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It doesn't seem like it can ruin your life NOW. But continue use of drugs and it might grow into something that WILL hinder your life.
 
The Winner!! said:
No, It's there all the time, just last night from sleep deprivation it amplified it to an extreme. none of it really bothers me except the afterimages/color confusion. It's like I look at something and i look away and its outlines stay in my vision and as an example of the color confusion, its like I can look at a blank white piece of paper, and then see it as 2 different colors similar to eachother (ex. white and light blue), then i look at both colors a couple times then it goes back.

It get's amplified when I smoke weed or sleep deprivation, not that bad when I wake up in the morning~ but it definately is still there. Another thing is visual static, in dark areas only but it's sort of annoying.

Shaolin, when you say abstain from all drugs, does that mean forever? Or should I just stop doing anything for a week or two?
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Aaaagh! NO! That's NOT HPPD at ALL.

Your eyes just have an increased sensitivity, that's all. I have been seeing those "sparks" all my life, and I know what you're talking about. And ever since I started doing MDMA (about 1x every 2 months) the 'halos' and streaks around light sources have grown. But, I repeat, this is increased visual sensitivity, NOT HPPD.

I also have exaggerated imprints of negative images and opposite colors when I close my eyes. You'll be fine. This is not hallucinating, your eyes just need more care.

I ALSO have that mental trick where you look at a solid color and it can be that color and another color. (e.g.- the off-white tiles in my bathroom can look red, or blue as well, if I imagine it so.) This shouldn't be a problem. If anything, it's cool and kinda fun.

You'll be okay.
 
After reading through parts of this thread I feel that we need to hone our definition of HPPD.

Or, at least it seems there are two distinct categories of HPPD.

One is increased visual sensitivity and vulnerability to impression:
Psychedelics and MDMA will change our actual vision. Yes. Tracers, increased light sensitivity, slight peripheral distortion, and--one I have enjoyed immensely--increased peripheral vision.

The other is more mental and 'minds-eye' stuff... Actual hallucinations, flashbacks, melting, patterns emerging, fractals, etc. That is probably more rare and more intrusive.

Yes?
 
any kind of visual disturbance afte drug use can be classified under HPPD symptoms. THATS WHAT IT IS, LINGERING VISUALS DISTORTIONS AFTER ALL DRUG USE HAS CEASEd.

I get visual static, trails, light sensitivity, intensified colors, after images, flashes of light, "starbursts", the list goeson and all of that was caused by MDMA. Not to mention the non visuals aspect of it which is DP/DR.

Dont listen to these fools telling you its nothing to worry about. If its making you distressed then i would worry about it.
 
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