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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Fluorexetamine (3-F-2’-oxo-PCE; FXE) Thread

send said:
Third, while this is the newer (non-stimulant cut) batch, there is definitely a stimulating quality to this one that I find borders on tediously annoying. It’s not a traditional amphetamine type stimulation, more of a kind of vibrating restless energy that just. won’t. fucking. quit. I can sleep on just about anything but after a night of FXE I end up tossing and turning and flopping around in bed for an ungodly amount of time, shortest was 3 hours and longest was 8 hours (and that’s just once I’ve crawled in bed, which is usually around 6-8 hours after my last FXE dose).
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Just an idea, but it sounds like Gabapentin could fix this issue. It does fix RLS.

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Do any of you guys have any info about 3-F-2-oxo-pcm (3F-DCK)? Its FXE but with a -pcm group at the end, instead of -pce. I don't know if it hit the markets already, but I read comments about it. Not much info admittedly

Sorry I shoulda just said FXE is 3-F-2-oxo-pce while 3fdck would be 3-F-2-oxo-pcm. If it has ketamine in the name that generally seems to imply that it has a ketone on the cyclohexylamine ring (ie 2-oxo) and one methyl group attached to the amine (ie to the nitrogen atom and the m in pcm is for methyl). When there is an ethyl group instead of a methyl group on the amine (pce instead of pcm), the ketamine reference is dropped and it is considered more closely related to eticyclidine, like o-pce or fxe.
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iRavage said:
Do any of you guys have any info about 3-F-2-oxo-pcm (3F-DCK)?
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the only info that gets repeated is that N-methyl is significantly weaker than N-ethyl on an ACH. im not that sure of it, if so it is almost negligible.

PS: the same is the case with the cathinones: pentedrone is indistinguishable from NEP in any respect. this might not hold true for the amphetamines. there the only false myth is that noramphetamine is weaker than meth. its the other way round, by an order magnitude almost...
 
izo said:
the only info that gets repeated is that N-methyl is significantly weaker than N-ethyl on an ACH. im not that sure of it, if so it is almost negligible.
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however it presents a possibly major difference in experience, no?
 
iRavage said:
however it presents a possibly major difference in experience, no?
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couldnt distuish much between dck and o-pce in the short time i was able too. maybe o-pce is a bit less harsher (dirtier) than DCK but thats just a hunch.
 
izo said:
couldnt distuish much between dck and o-pce in the short time i was able too. maybe o-pce is a bit less harsher (dirtier) than DCK but thats just a hunch.
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Those are 2 completely different substances and experiences, imo. But is there another difference between them, except for the -pce -pcm?

Look:

DCK: 2-Phenyl-2-(methylamino)cyclohexanone
O-PCE: 2-(Ethylamino)-2-phenylcyclohexan-1-one

My chemistry skills obviously are non existent, sorry.
 
iRavage said:
Look:

DCK: 2-Phenyl-2-(methylamino)cyclohexanone
O-PCE: 2-(Ethylamino)-2-phenylcyclohexan-1-one

My chemistry skills obviously are non existent, sorry.
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only difference is said N-Alkyl substituent, methyl contrary to ethyl, no big change in activity, as expected:

N-methyl might be a litttle harsher than N-ethyl, thats it. almost no difference in potency from where i stand.
 
Xorkoth said:
I find them around the same potency but O-PCE is a bit more potent. I also found O-PCE harsher and colder, personally. I prefer DCK (O-PCM).
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hm, ok. for me its rather the other way round. ut no big difference all in all. apart from the taste. o-pcm taste somewhat like grapes and o-pce tastes only bitter like most of all rcs.
 
What else can I say, other than FXE sorta sucks.

If someone offered it to me for free, I would politely decline. It's fine, sure. But really no point to it.

Like others have said, it's intensely stimulating, and seemed to mess with my blood sugar in a way I'm not used to from dissociatives. It actually reminded me of a drug I took years ago, 4-AcO-DiPT, the philosopher's psychedelic. I got these thunderous rumbles in my legs, tremblys, it's hard to describe. But my whole body felt like that from the FXE, just sort of uncomfortably vibrating about to burst out of itself. Eek. I ate some einkorn wheat winter spice cookies (so good, yes I made them, yes I'm a health nut) and within minutes felt much, much better.

It's weird, because I can take K and skip meals with no problems. But with this shit, whoa.

I took a series of ~70mg oral doses spaced an hour or two apart. Takes about an hour to kick in it seems, lasts about an hour or two, then tapers off gradually. Really nothing to write home about.

I'm done messing with RC dissociatives. It's ketamine, MXE, or bust.

I will say that I've seen an interesting resurgence of particular things lately in particular places. I've seen 4-FA available for the first time in years, and after talking to that individual who synthesized the 4-FA, they said they had successfully synthesized a batch of MXE, and were working on scaling the process. We shall see.

Cheers
 
I wonder if you got the "stimulant batch" (they added like 8% of some shitty cathinone to it)? Only because you mention it was intensely stimulating.
 
Twas not the stimulant batch

After finishing the remaining ~130mg, couple more things I'll say:

There is a very fleeting window where the head has that warm fuzziness that is reminiscent of MXE - but it's very fleeting.

The stimulation I would compare to sitting on the hood of a running diesel engine - it's unusual, and just barely pleasant. I would recommend not taking FXE on an empty stomach.

Overall, not at all remarkable.
 
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I just ordered a gram from the fam I'll let you guys know how it goes. I haven't had any dissociatives other than a small line of ketamine in a few months. My dealer ran out of ket and hasn't reupped and that happened right after my most profound ket experience. I was at a pool I had done like 300mgs over a few hours. Everything in the water turned into a digital world it was insane my hands were low rez emojis and the water was displaying insane weird like physics graphics simulations???? I was also "making music videos for God" I've never had true visuals from a dissociative before this experience. Nothing more than like things looking weird or strobing effects or size effects or static this was like reality changing. I know this isn't ketamine board but yah I'll lyk how I like fxe in comparison to other dissies I've done dxm(over a hundred times from 17-19),3 ho pce(.3g over a year), 3 Meo pcp (.25g over 3 years), dck(1.5g over half a year), k(5-8g over the last year and a gram years ago), 2fdck(5g over a few months),memantine(750mgs over a week), nitrous one of those big canisters over 2 days).
 
So I've taken a few really small bumps and it's light so far but definitely noticable I'm enjoying it so far gonna push it further thru the night just got home so I can actually relax and go deeper
 
Tried some FXE again sublingually. Still not a fan, makes me anxious and uncomfortable, sort of depressed. All but one time that I've taken it I have found myself regretting that I had consumed it. The one time that I didn't regret it, I was snorting little bumps during the evening, while drinking alcohol and smoking weed, and it seemed pleasant enough, like a stimulating ketamine. But even in that case, the next day I felt weird. I feel like instead of an afterglow like some dissociatives, this stuff has a hangover.

This stuff isn't for me. There is no stimulant contaminant in my batch, GCMS showed only FXE.
 
It is a little scary but it's so beautiful im in so much pain rn and it's freeing I found someone who can look at my back next week I'm dancing and moving and flowing it's pure creativity
 
Interesting because it makes music sound tinny and distant. DCK and ketamine but not 2F-DCK does the same.

Interestingly, 3F-PCP is great for music, particularly creativity. But only at doses lower than 30mg. Higher doses are very confusing.

I would imagine that FXE is, like DCK, most redeeming in very high doses.
 
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