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The Big & Dandy First-Time-Tripper Thread

What if there is no "personal demon" and the drug is just giving them general anxiety?
Anxiety during a trip is normally best dealt with either internally (if, like me, you usually trip alone) or through discussion. After all, this is the true purpose of psychedelic psychotherapy--even if there is no pressing "personal trauma" or anxiogenic issue, virtually anyone can benefit from psychotherapy. The time to apply a benzo is when an individual is starting to become physically aggressive, panicky or starts to engage in illogical risky behavior.
 
I'll be trying lsd my first time this summer, and I can hardly wait for the day!
 
I tripped for the first time this Saturday for my birthday :D

It was completely different than I expected but I had a fun trip!!
 
I remember the first time I took a psychedelic (shrooms) and I expected a strong fun sedative effect or something alike with hallucinations. Boy, was I wrong. Great trip though :)
 
Thanks for the replies :) I used San Pedro with an experienced tripper and had a great time, only used a small dosage. My friend did all the extracting so only a little bit of liquid to drink, wasn't gross at all.
The trip was light but with visuals on TV and goa trance playing it created a few awesome (my first even!) visuals. :) Also lots of great CEV's and a generally good body buzz and euphoric feeling. Next time I'm going to do a slightly bigger dose and combine it with some weed.

After my first trip (only used LSA + Salvia 5x) I can only say: I love Mescaline, and will try it again soon, but will always remember my first ever trip :) Thanks again for all your help and tips, especially the nature/going outside thing which I'll be trying next time.

Peace & happy tripping :D
 
Riemann Zeta said:
Anxiety during a trip is normally best dealt with either internally (if, like me, you usually trip alone) or through discussion. After all, this is the true purpose of psychedelic psychotherapy--even if there is no pressing "personal trauma" or anxiogenic issue, virtually anyone can benefit from psychotherapy. The time to apply a benzo is when an individual is starting to become physically aggressive, panicky or starts to engage in illogical risky behavior.


I've tried dealing with my social anxiety disorder by tripping many times and trying to overcome it but nothing ever worked. The anxiety is gone for a few days after I trip but it always comes back. Psychedelic psychotherapy has helped me overcome other traumas and understand the reasons more why they happened but my anxiety seems a hopeless cause.

I wish I could get some opiates prescribed for anxiety instead of benzos since they work better and interfere less with my dreams. Damn, I love dreaming =D
 
So I tried shrooms for the first time last weekend.

I shroomed last Friday with 2 of my friends, one of them I feel that I'm pretty close with, while the other I feel I got a little more closer to after the trip. So I didn't quite know what to expect even after someone experienced telling me what it was like (that's usually how it is the first time right? like with ecstasy :) )

So the discomfort in my stomach lasted for quite a while (45min-1hr?) and it seemed like it started travelling upward in my neck area, which started to actually make me feel nauseous and feel like I was about to vomit. I loved the wavy visuals when I looked at posters and the kaleidoscope effect while looking at a white ceiling...but the nausea was really getting to me. During the first hour of visuals I was feeling mostly negative thoughts, and anything that someone would say, would make me overanalyze and be kind of pessimistic/worry about it (I'm the type to usually care what others think of me, I try to please as many people as I can, etc.) If my friend said she felt like she needed to yak, I felt like I needed to yak too, so I was up front enough about it to tell her that I didn't feel comfortable about her saying that cuz I didn't want to bad trip. Also, every little melody in a song would affect me a LOT...it would make me think a lot. And the first hour to 2 hours I was COLD.

So basically every few minutes I was on the verge of a bad trip, getting into that infinite loop. I guess you could say I was bad tripping, but not too bad. I was always trying to think positive, or at least tell myself that I was gonna get something good out of it. The 3 of us went outside for a short walk, and there was a HUMONGOUS tree that looked kind of like a mushroom..the houses looked the SAME, like we were on a board game or a popup book, and no one else was outside so it was kind of eerie, like we were walking around in a ghost town. And let me tell you my depth perception was REALLY bad... :D

When the visuals started to wear off, I kinda felt like I was in a blissful state...but when my friend turned on "DJ Mystik - Close Your Eyes", I think that's when my happiness started...I was super happy for the next 3+ hours, I think I was happier on the shroom comedown than when I'm on ecstasy to tell you the truth...when one of my friends was getting a bit anxious, I would just pour my happiness onto her. I smoked a bowl (I'm glad I didn't smoke more because I felt like it might have changed the trip for me) and about an hour later I drank a little bit.

I would say this was a good experience overall...though during the peak, there were so many different emotions (mostly negative) that was too overwhelming at times, but I'm kinda glad I went through it. I realized that your feelings fluctuate so quickly, everyone else just bounces off each other on shrooms. I wouldn't mind doing it again, I just wouldn't be looking forward to the nausea...and I think that my almost bad trips were partly due to the fact that before I took them, I was AFRAID of getting a bad trip, that might have influenced it..

Would you guys say that the second time on shrooms is better than the first? Because you'll know what to expect and handle yourself better, etc? And I've always wanted to try LSD, and I might do it soon in the near future - how does LSD compare to shrooms based on my trip? Thoughts, comments, suggestions? :)
 
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AireePotter said:
So the discomfort in my stomach lasted for quite a while (45min-1hr?) and it seemed like it started travelling upward in my neck area, which started to actually make me feel nauseous and feel like I was about to vomit.

I didn't get any nausea my first time on shrooms but I did feel that ball of energy in my upper chest and that might of been what you felt in your neck...
 
ampd said:
I didn't get any nausea my first time on shrooms but I did feel that ball of energy in my upper chest and that might of been what you felt in your neck...


yeah, that describes it better. It was like a balloon.


And does anyone know the difference between caps and stems, if there is any difference at all? Someone told me that caps are for visuals and stems are for body high...can anyone vouch for that?
 
^ opinions vary. The balance of alkaloids differs sometimes. Caps being for visuals and stems for body high is definitely a crock, though.
 
I can't believe that shrooms and acid are so often compared. I think they are completely different. I have only done each one time each but with Shrooms I was floored for hours and could barely move. I felt like I had to remind myself to breath. I had no thoughts at all except wondering when it would end and then trying to keep a calm head about myself so I wouldn't freak out. In my experience (limited I know) comparing the two would be the same as comparing a cartoon to a sci-fi movie. Kinda, lol.
 
Oh, really? One of the people I shroomed with said that...is the only difference between caps and stems seen in the potency?

And how is LSD like? Any pointers at all for a first timer like me? Do you get less freaked out like you do on shrooms? I'm actually looking forward to it, since I heard that it gives a euphoric feeling kinda similar to ecstasy? And that it's a bit more spiritual? Thanks :)
 
And how is LSD like? Any pointers at all for a first timer like me? Do you get less freaked out like you do on shrooms? I'm actually looking forward to it, since I heard that it gives a euphoric feeling kinda similar to ecstasy? And that it's a bit more spiritual? Thanks

I found LSD to be awesome. My boyfriend of 2 years used to trip all the time when he was in college and I have always listened to his stories, thinking I could have some idea of what he was talking about. After finally trying LSD this past weekend I realized I had no idea. I have done ecstacy many, many times, even pure MDMA and I would say that it is completely different to LSD. So much so that I don't think I could compare them. Ecstacy is fun and feels great while LSD is intense but has the ability to change your perception of things. LSD is not a party drug in my opinion.

I found shrooms to be all intensity with nothing gained. Acid was amazing. It is really difficult to explain. Make sure you are with people you like and in an environment you can control. I think it is pretty weak these days from what I have gathered through my boyfriend so it shouldn't be too intense. I did two hits and loved the experience. Ecstacy is way more fun while LSD is much more life and perception altering. Shrooms just suck in comparison to both in my opinion, although I think I took way too many when I did them.

Even though my trip was subtle compared to my boyfriends experiences I did experience some levels of intensity where I felt like "Stimpy" looks if you remember the show from way back when but It came and went. Music made my experience extremely cool and the album artwork blew my mind since the artists made it all specifically for tripping. Legendary Pink Dots, Hilt, Throbbing Gristle,Skinny Puppy (got pretty scarY for me) Anyway, I know that was a long response but it was so cool, lol.
 
shrooms/mescaline containing cacti...

...which is advisable for a first time trip? Which is less intense or eaiser to judge dose wise? Any info. would be greatly appriciated. I would like to explore the world of entheogens and would like to know an ok starting point. Should I even start with these two or begin with morning glorys to see how it will effect me?
 
I would say mushrooms but that is just because my own experience with mescaline cacti has been hit/miss (only tried once) and also I know friends who have messed up the trip by either puking too soon (and aborting it because the alkaloids don't get a chance to absorb) or just the potency was too low in the cactus.

Mushrooms are an intense psychedelic, so I recommend starting with 1.5-2 grams as a first dose.

peace and have fun! :)
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. Shrooms can very easily overwhelm you. Even experience trippers can get knocked on their ass by over doing it with shrooms. So definately keep it under 2 dried grams.

Cacti tea is MUCH more gentle IMO, but at the same time is much harder to consume. I love san pedro tea, it tastes pretty damn bad but it is a very gentle psychedelic. Not gentle as in weak, but gentle in a forgiving drug with minimal "mindfuck."
 
I think I posted this question before and posters recommended LSD. I am interested in LSD but I have talked to some of my weed friendly friends and they see LSD as acid, the drug made by drop out chemists that makes your brain bleed. 8)

Also what about those plant entheogens online [No sources even for legal plants] are they worth it?
 
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^Mescaline (San Pedro cactus) or LSA (Hawaiian baby woodrose) seeds are worth it for sure, as for other plants maybe Kratom or Salvia 5x extract, I used them and got pretty good results :)

I started with LSA (HBWR) seeds and had a great introspective trip from them while not feeling too intoxicated, maybe add some weed ;)

Peace o/
 
Kaneh Bosm said:
...which is advisable for a first time trip? Which is less intense or eaiser to judge dose wise? Any info. would be greatly appriciated. I would like to explore the world of entheogens and would like to know an ok starting point. Should I even start with these two or begin with morning glorys to see how it will effect me?

I would say that mushrooms are probably the best for a first time. I tripped on them for my first time with a kinda high dose (3.5g dried cubes) and had the most amazing experience of my life. I got amazing aztec like visuals in the carpet that kept swirling, colors were exteremly bright and popping out, and my friends faces seemed to be outlined and much sharper. CEVs were insane tunnel like colored visuals that morphed and spun into other shapes. I took them at around 11 at night and when my friends started zonking out from too much pot (I was the only one on shrooms) and I found it very easy to lie down and play with the CEVs and I even fell asleep at around 3:30 am which was surprising because most people can't sleep while tripping. Since then I've done acid, mescaline, 2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-I, DOB, DOM, LSA, and DMT and none have even come close to my first mushroom experience. Even when I take much higher doses of the same mushrooms (4-8gs) I find that my first trip will always be my most profound trip ever.
 
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