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The Big & Dandy DXM Thread

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my darkest trips are 1st plateau to mid 2nd plateau. It's the struggle to discconnect from trying to think and value concepts/things as a human being. At a solid third plateau, i am almost completely devoid of social conditioning and cultural influences.

I wouldn't call the third plateau cold or sharp. I would say it's fair and absolute. You can think and consider things without the sneaky grip of social traditions and customs. A third plateau mind can examine connections between friends and memories in a very objective point of view. Maybe an addict really only is an addict, and not a struggling friend. If you're attached to your humanity the trip could seem cruel or dark. I think the trip is just pure logic. The euphoria comes because you exist, you are an amazing phenenom in your thoughts and perceptions. The trippiness part comes because the DXM undoes so many stubborn and deep-seated ideas about how things and society could and should be run. It eliminates your conscience and allows you rejudge everything you know without feelings of right/wrong/fairness to muddle things up.
 
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1st plateau : you feel like you have some small advantage or trick over the rest of the society. You are completely yourself, act like yourself, and are comfortable with yourself, even if by societal rules you may be fat, or stupid, or lazy.

2nd plateau : some inhibitions about your reponsibility and place in society are dissolved. you feel energitic, buzzing euphoric. You are a person that cannot feel stress or worry. It's all dividved into what is, what could be, what you could do, what you will do...There is no wrong choice. Only the choice you make and the outcome it makes. The euphoria is llmost like burning on MDMA.

3rd plateau : removes your humanity. I suffer from social anxiety, and the third plateau cures that completely. I'm my own defined area of self-aware space/matter/existence. Euphoria is less burning but more "complete," "silent," or "perfect." I can decide how to act or feel based on how it would best benefit me. I don't feel good or evil. All deeds and memories are weighed based on how much benefit they give me versus detriment they give me (I don't steal because I agree with society that we should all give up our right to steal).

I'm a very word-centered person. I need weed or some LSAs to get good pictures. Otherwise its just swirly dark purples and tints of it.
 
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I could spout my love for DXM for hours. I would dare propose that responsible tripping with DXM will make you a more independent, vital, and powerful person. After spending enough time in DXM, freeing of my human conditioning, I can see pain, liars, trust, lost, and even time more objective and less personally. It has increased my threshold for suffering physical, emotional, and financial pain. It's made huge gains in my feelings of anxiety, which I will eventually explore when I do make a return. Right now I learned a bunch of tools from DXM to work on it now. So my next trip will be about how I can better manage the feelings of anxiety. And/Or to get blissfully fucked up.
 
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I know what you mean Delsyd. After a life of traditional psychedelics I am amazed at reading about DXM, which I never tried. I can't figure out if it's an amazing thing or a head clog. But if you take the plung and post I may also. There are some very respected members here that give it the thumbs up. If you do too then that would mean a lot. I have only tried ketamine and found the first few times interesting and then lost interest in that the come down was gross for a few hours. But reading about DXM certainly gives the impression of a mixed bag. So let us know when/if you do this. :) I too hope it is as interesting as some of the reading.
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I know what you mean.

i know a few psychonauts in real life though who hold DXM in the highest regards and i respect there opinion very much so have decided to give it a shot.
The worst that could happen is i wont gain anything from it but a headache the next day.

Propyl and Lazydullard, thanks for the info.<3
 
Delsyd said:
I know what you mean.

i know a few psychonauts in real life though who hold DXM in the highest regards and i respect there opinion very much so have decided to give it a shot.
The worst that could happen is i wont gain anything from it but a headache the next day.

Propyl and Lazydullard, thanks for the info.<3
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Just don't compare it to K, it's in some ways very different. Just has different feel to it. But I agree with a lot of people in this thread, DXM is a pretty fucking cool drug. A lot of people dismiss it as crap, but that's BS. Even on first 1st or 2nd plateau I've had some pretty crazy experiences. I remember looking at some old photographs from my high school days on a 2nd plateau trip and it almost felt like I was in it. It was crazy as fuck, like I could feel the vibe of those photos. They were more than just some bits of information.

Have fun!
 
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I could spout my love for DXM for hours. I would dare propose that responsible tripping with DXM will make you a more independent, vital, and powerful person. After spending enough time in DXM, freeing of my human conditioning, I can see pain, liars, trust, lost, and even time more objective and less personally. It has increased my threshold for suffering physical, emotional, and financial pain. It's made huge gains in my feelings of anxiety, which I will eventually explore when I do make a return. Right now I learned a bunch of tools from DXM to work on it now. So my next trip will be about how I can better manage the feelings of anxiety. And/Or to get blissfully fucked up.
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I agree with everything you say here. DXM has taught me so much about life and people.

To go into a similar direction, I will say I see clearly that human behavior is the result of environmental conditions, encoded into the very thought process of human life. At the lowest level, it is like mathematical equation, very similar to cellular automata. It's like ripples in water: the result of a disturbance of the present state is always dependent upon the conditions of the previous state. This is true of emotional and spiritual influences. I don't deny any possible metaphysical processes, though I'm very cautious when believing in any idea.

Let me tell you, the effect DXM has had on my anxiety is close to a miracle. Life's problems are taken in stride now. I don't react violently or angrily when something doesn't go my way anymore.

I figure any lessons I learn with DXM can be kept forever, and I don't have to take it forever to keep them. That way, I won't let the drug ruin me :/
 
Chuggin' the Urine of the Beast...

I posted this question on Dextroverse earlier today, but I was wondering if anyone here might have anything to say???

((On being able to handle nausea/bodyload during Zicam Max come-up))

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{I've had 21 Zimax experiences as of yet; first few times I thought, "Oh, whatever, the taste's really not that bad at all." I remember smelling it before I drank it, actually tasting it in my mouth before swallowing it, can you believe it- even licking the straw from the cap like it was candy or something!

Well soon I just began to really dislike the taste, but by now let me tell you that just thinking about the smell hard enough can make me shudder a little inside. Seriously, this stuff tastes like it was fermented in Satan's bladder; straight from the source, it's just the most INTENSE mix of bitter, sweet and menthol you could ever imagine assaulting your taste buds. Oh, and how it coats...
Everytime I do it now I have a fat cup of water and some Habanero Salsa handy to chase and cover-up the demon piss. If I'm doing more than a bottle at a time I'll pour the contents in a shot glass so my mouth won't have to endure the taste for any longer than necessary.

I've never slammed more than 1.5 bottles worth in one gulp though; thinking about it now I'm not sure if it would be more worth it to seperate a higher dose into a couple of chugs spaced out a little bit, (5-30mins. perhaps?) than attempt the heroic 2+ bottle slam.
I mean, how has anyone else dealt with attempting to take such a large swig, (1oz. and up, haha... just seems like such a deceptively small amount really) of this stuff in one go? I'm not particularly prone to nausea on DXM, but sometimes on the come-up I'll definitely get short bursts of semi-intense nausea before the trip really kicks in. (Weed helps immensely with this fortunately.)

I just wouldn't want to throw it all up right away and be like, "Great, I just spent 20 bucks so I could fucking vomit... awesome," you know? The last time I did 2 bottles, (the only time actually) I took 1.5 all at once and the rest like 2 and a half to 3 hours later. I did actually vomit, but it was at the end of the whole thing.

I'm thinking about doing 2 bottles again soon, pehaps all at once. Anyone out there have any experience with spreading out a dose like this such as I have before vs. taking it all at once, as far as nausea/bodyload and overall trip experience is concerned?

Any comments on the issue would be appreciated}
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Thanks in advance, guys!
 
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^^^^^ AWARE

I stop breathing through my nose, get a plate, open up all the bottles. Then just bam bam bam drink without taking a breath, and try to get it to flow around the edge of your tongue, not the center. Then drink two huge cups of ice water and distract my mind with music, bluelight, or TV for like 5 minutes. I've done 4 at once, but I had a tolerance of like 2 per day for a month.

The zicams are made for slamming. don't save any. It's the most disgusing thought in the world. Slam them then immediately wrap them in a plastic bag so you can smell it, then dispose of it in the bottom of the trash.

If you want to change the trip a little, have some syrup to sip on like half an hour later, or take some robo pills which will take about an hour to 90 minutes to kick in.

In my opinion, immediate dosing gives you much more naeuseaou and double vision, but less itchiness. Probably raises your temperature more, but makes you sweat less? Just have lots of cold water. It's really the best thing for it.

But I'm at the point where the taste of zicam gives me a pseudo-rush and placebo high as soon as it enters my mouth. So I don't even need to chase it.

Hey guys, thanks for replying and even agreeing with what I said about DXM. I've been worried I might be a little ducky in the head for a while. But at least I'm ducky in the right way.

Stay safe guys.
 
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I think we're just matter that moves about in a set pattern. Our life is our life and it goes like it goes. For whatever reason, we've chosen to identify a certain set of matter as ourselves and bound our conciousness to it. We're all nothing but "stuff," but the miracle is that we see each other as seperate and different stuff. We're all piece of the same tapestry, but for some blessed reason, we see each other as different pieces.

Nothing hurts and nothings matters because the universe is what is's suppose to be. We choose to see ourselves. DMT helped me reached this thought as well as DXM.

The sensory flanging and other effects of DXM showed me that our conciousness is very picky and exact about what makes us us. Our conciousness stubbornly works in only one way and wants the chemicals in your brains to fire in a certain way. DXM has made me feel totally alien, or feel like a broken or lagging computer. It's just the stubborness of our conciousness to preserve a very specific set of rules to define of self identity and perceptions.

man, I need to trip again soon. Tripping relieves my social anxiety and most anxiety and anger for like a month. It releases my stubborn mind from thinking it has to be anxious and fearful. I feel like DXM frees my mind. So I trip at least once a month to keep my mind free.

DXM unchains your conciousness to what it thinks it's suppose to be... or in other words, it frees your mind being nothing but the sum of your experiences and the the shape of your brain. I think I would describe 3rd plateau euphoria as the euphoria of perfect freedom.
 
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DXM unchains your conciousness to what it thinks it's suppose to be... or in other words, it frees your mind being nothing but the sum of your experiences and the the shape of your brain. I think I would describe 3rd plateau euphoria as the euphoria of perfect freedom.
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Sounds like you would be good company while dexing :D

The great thing about seeing which factors influence you is that you can choose to stay a product of your conditioning or you can rise above it. Sounds like you are doing the latter, which is commendable :) You choose to see and not be blind. DXM helps this process by allowing us to view reality in a detached way, to not hold onto preconceived notions. It dissolves our mental filters.

I'm planning to take a low dose (30-45mg) of DXM poly each day for a month, to see how it helps. I like the benefits of the DXM afterglow, but it never lasts long enough (although it's a fun four days). Maybe I can keep a low-key mood enhancement/stabilization going without becoming manic or psychotic. I'll likely post my results somewhere around here after one month. It's been done before, but another study doesn't hurt :\
 
Thanks for the response, lazydullard;

Oh yeah, holding my breath and not breathing through my nose is absolutely essential to the process. Last time I tried not breathing through my nose for probably at least 5 minutes after the Zicam had been stomached; as well as taking large breaths spaced out as far from each other as possible--
These techniques work wonders in covering up your sense of taste, that's for sure... Man, a whiff of this stuff from like a few feet away from an open bottle can actually make me gag a little bit, (wrapping the bottles up in a plastic bag and throwing them away in the bottom of the trash, haha- only one who has known the ways of the Zimax would know how completely reasonable that sounds...)

I'm a little confused about what you said about the plate though; it doesn't seem like you said you were using it for anything, were you?

I definitely feel ya on the effects though; DXM is an amazing psychedelic; I understand not everyone has been fortunate enough to experience these kinds of effects from it, but personally, it's provided me with some of the most mind-blowing psychedelic experiences I've ever had: Complete immersion in insanely detailed "mindscapes" for hours at a time, wading through the catacombs of my own subconscious made conscious; it's kind of like having a back-stage pass to my own consciousness- like being able to access and decipher the source-code for my mind's software or something. It has the tendency to put me in a deep, disconnected-yet-connected meditative trance, and has catalyzed some incredible insights into my thoughts on the nature of consciousness and reality.

I just can't help but crack-up everytime I think about how, (what I feel to be anyway) such a deeply spiritual and affirming psychedelic, is wrapped-up in neat li'l boxes flooding the corner-stores of America and beyond, being sold as nothing more than a "cough-suppressant" to the public...

It all seems like some kind of big, (and hilarious, really...) cosmic-joke, doesn't it?
 
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DXM come-up

I was planning on bombing powdered dxm for a night out... I have only taken it by drinking cough syrup before, and I wanted the knowledge of others more experianced than I to gauge how long before I get into the club I should drop, if i want to start coming up properly inside. I was thinking of a 300-400mg dose. What do y'all reckon?
 
it takes like an hour or so to start noticing significant effects on an empty stomach i would say.
 
dxm for a night out? man, that doesnt sound very dxm-friendly. depends on your tolerance and what youre aiming for, with your 400mg, i guess. when i did it, i shot for only 3rd plateau+ and took at least 900mg a trip... if i woulda went anywhere it would have been a mess. most of the time i couldnt even find the door to get out of my room. but if you have some tolerance... arent totally new at it... i guess maybe 400mg could be OK for going out. id bring some bud, in case you got any motion sickness. caus when that shit hits, youre gunna wanna be still and if youre out, that wont likely happen. i got motion sickness with pure powder, too.
 
Keep in mind he's going to a club though. I remember bombing just under 400mgs of DXM when I went to a club, and it was one of the best times I've ever had, as I was visibly fucked. It was funny as hell. Then again, I'm rather addicted to having a "fucked up" feeling rather than being addicted to any drug. As longs as I'm high on something I'm good.
 
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