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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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After plugging it, the only differences I noticed were an extremely fast comeup (significant effects within 5 mins) a MUCH quicker onset of the peak, and length of peak, and totally down buy 12 hrs, which for me is significantly shorter, but only by about 6 hrs or so...

All in all, worth doing, peak was MUCH more intense than equal amounts orally, but that could be just from the speed and slightly potentiation....Probably won't repeat.
 
Yesterday I tried DOC for the first time at a dose of 4mg, and I was mostly at a moderate +++, at least for the peak of the effects.

I enjoyed the trip overall, especially the strong visuals and other sensory effects, but I felt that it lacked any sense of spirituality, or mysticism, and it didn't even stimulate my thought process very much.

Compared to other substances I've used like mushrooms, lsd, and 2c-e, DOC was enjoyable but it just made me space out and enjoy the imagery, as opposed to enjoying the imagery while thinking about things or having clever dialogue with my friends. Does anyone else that has tried DOC feel this way about it as well? I haven't seen anyone really mention this aspect of it one way or another.
 
ManRider said:
I enjoyed the trip overall, especially the strong visuals and other sensory effects, but I felt that it lacked any sense of spirituality, or mysticism, and it didn't even stimulate my thought process very much.

Does anyone else that has tried DOC feel this way about it as well? I haven't seen anyone really mention this aspect of it one way or another.
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bump. I'm interested too in hearing about whether people find the trip profound. I'm thinking of trying it for a low dose enhancer type drug...something to take on a long day outside chillin' beside a creek or pond in the sunshine...I was thinking about starting at 1.5mg for this effect.
 
I think in my one experience with DOC that the after-glow had potential for positive insight, because I was just brimming with truly good vibes. Just speculation, though...

I'm sure Xorkoth could expand on this.
 
I find DOC to be a powerful tool for channeling positivity and love and creativity, when used right. The afterglow (actually the entire trip when a low dose is used) reliably puts me in a "state of grace" where I feel truly cognitively enhanced, and emotionally honest and open. It's a zen-like state of peace and harmony where I feel that anything is possible. My wife and I have had some very important growing days/discussions in such a state. It's difficult for me to explain this state, but the more experience I have with it, as long as I don't overuse it, the more reliably I can bring it on. About 1.5 to 2mg works the best, I find. It just makes everything so positive and easy and "flowing".

I have tried DOB, DOC, DOI, DOM, and DOT (aleph-1), and DOC is the only one that produces this state for me. It's been a very valuable tool for me, one that remains valuable. Not as a way to trip balls or hallucinate (it used to do a great job with that but no longer does), but as a way to open myself up mentally and emotionally in an honest and productive way.
 
^interesting.

I've only tried DOC once (~1.8mg) and I found the stimulation uncomfortable, but at that point I hadn't any experience with stimulants (aside from caffeine that is).

Over the last year or so I've been using desoxypipradrol and modafinil periodically and find them to be very useful productivity enhancers.

I think my body has become much more comfortable with stimulants so I think its time to go back to DOC.

I'm hoping low dose DOC can provide a similar 'enhancement' as these milder stimulants, but with a little extra 'magic' if you know what I mean...
 
DOC feels too artificial and dirty for me.

The visuals look dirty, things look more detailed in an OCD kinda way. Sure the visuals are pretty intense, they are definetly intense in a different way than LSD.

I always feel like DOx's are too much for my body to handle.

I prefer LSD, LSD lets me see beautiful things and not feel so anxious like DOC(and DOX)
 
It took a while for my body to really "accept" DOC fully. I always loved it, obviously, except the first time I took it at 2.25mg... it felt all strange and alien. Then I took it at 3.2mg and loved it. Back then it gave me a massively powerful trip, with overwhelming visuals and a peri9od of feeling a bit too intense (but in that psychedelic sort of way that I can find enjoyment in). After the first trip, it always provided this state that I mentioned, although not as profoundly, but not until like hour 8 to 10, after the main trip.

As time went on and I continued to use it more, I stopped tripping so hard on it. I started to more reliably get this "state of grace". I started using a lot of psychedelics, so I got in the habit of taking a low dose the day after a full dose (1-1.5mg for me then - a low dose probably would have been .5-.75mg when I started), to conitnue this day-after state longer. Then I took a long break from psychedelics and when I started using them again, I decided to try a 1.5mg dose instead of a full one, and it was great. So that's how I came to find it.

I should also mention that I often like to combine it with phenibut... it adds an edge to the euphoria that I really love, and it makes you much less likely to have to endure a period of initial anxiety for 2 or 3 hours (which sometimes happens even with low doses without it).
 
So i've had a bit of an encounter with the DOx's in the past year or so.
I have done a few hits of acid ranging from a half tab my first time, up to 4 good tabs.
A while ago I got my hands on tabs from a friend of a friend sort of thing i got two of these tabs, took 1 and a half and gave the other half to a friend. Both of us were gone for the next ~30 hours. It was dirty but really opened my mind alot. Would like to get my hands on it again but take a lower dose, the body load was terrible. From my reading of Erowid and Phikal im pretty sure these tabs were DOB.

I have also been sold recently tabs which i'm pretty sure are DOC as they match all of the writings about them. Done these tabs two times now + both times really enjoyed the trip but find them to leave me alot more shaken up the day after.

It's not something i'm happy about really I would quite like to be able to know this is what your getting and feel confident in the actual chemical present.

But hey that seems to be new zealand for everyone I know.
 
I think I answered it in one of my posts - maybe not though.

Anyway, I've only plugged once and it was during a period of abuse where I had dosed it the two days previous as well, so to be honest I couldn't tell... I was already on another dose at the time. I couldn't perceive a difference but it doesn't mean there wasn't one. I think Obyron might have said he plugged DOI but I can't remember what his conclusion was, or even whether or not I'm imagining that.
 
I'm confused, Xorky.

I thought your DOC was kratom.

Now you're saying your DOC is DOC? ;)
 
Anyone experience vasoconstriction on low doses of DOC? I've had one, low dose (I'm generally hard headed with all TIHKALS AND PIHKALS) of 2mg., experience with DOC as a taste test to gauge my appropriate dose and interest in the compound. At 2 mg. I only obtained some vague threshold sense of activity, but ended up having very cold hands and feet, as well as a general chill through much of the day. Granted, it was subfreezing outside and no more than 60-62 f. indoors, but that's normal for me and I don't tend to get that way. This has left me somewhat concerned about how I would be effected by a likely effective dose of 3-6 mg.
 
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