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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOB Thread

Finally just got my paws on some of this stuff gonna trial DOB when im off next week. Gonna take 2.5mgs im thinking that should be more than enough to give me a full look at what this one has to offer. I've been looking forward to this one for over ten years this drug caught my intrest when I first got into doing Phenethylamines but I havent gotten around to it until now. Gotten the opportunity to try out à number of new DOx the past couple years it truly been something spécial, they are one of my favorite familys for sure.
 
Good luck! Imo it's an amazing drug, by far my most recreational drug experience ever, hours of brilliant ecstasy.
I'm guessing you have the powder that has been floating around, I had a so so experience on it (atypical) but it's possible external factors were in play. I'm gonna have my powder tested soon.
 
I would welcome opinions from those who have taken this. I have sat on 2 blotters (1.4mg each) for a few years now since this is one of the few psychedelics I am a bit scared to try due to the extreme length and oft reported unpleasant stimulation and other bodyload effects. Now generally a good many of us find Shulgins doses on the low side and sometimes (2CC/2CD) preposterously low but almost no one seems to venture beyond Shulgins 3mg top end; given most of my experience I have the suspicion that any less than 2.8mg would lead to a disappointing ‘underdose’ mentally but I’d like to know if many are really finding around 3mg too strong? Also I have a strong tendency towards reporting much longer durations than average for pretty much all the psychedelics I have tried; I hope it isn’t the case but suspect at least 30hrs out of it which is a nightmare it’s self but that is another issue altogether and just me but I’d be interested to hear peoples thoughts on dosage before / if I take the plunge - I go hot and cold on actually trying this stuff given the not entirely good reception the stuff gets (even taking out all the reports sold as LSD which wouldn’t give the best results)
 
DOB is extremely potent and there is virtually no way 2.8mg is going to be an underdose, it is a very strong dose. Have you tried any other DOXs? Admittedly I have yet to try DOB, but DOC, which is half as potent, is extremely strong at 3mg and I rarely take more than 2mg. Even 1mg is a satisfying trip (which would be equivalent to about a half mg of DOB).

Since you're experienced and only have 2 blotters I would say go for the 2.8mg dose instead of 1.4 but if you experience an underdose effect I would be extremely surprised.

Modern reports generally tend to suggest DOB is not nearly as rough as early reports claimed it to be. I haven't read a recent report of a difficult experience I don't think. The old body of data was so small that a couple of negative reports massively colored the collective view of a drug.

As for the duration, if you experience longer than most (like me), you should expect over 24 hours. The DOXs are very comfortable substances though compared to most other psychedelics, they produce effects that are not difficult to handle and are euphoric on top of that. DOC lasts 24 hours for me, but I love the whole duration and the slow unfolding of effects is part of what is great about the trip, it is absolutely unrushed and the trip itself includes integration of the trip. The first half of the experience involves deconstructing and rebuilding, and the second half of the experience is characterized by strong euphoria and positive introspection and insight as you come back fully into yourself and integrate.
 
I wasn't thinking 2.8 would be an underdose - more I was worried that any less might be. I have had DOC at 3.6mg (2mg was way to little) and I wouldn't call that +++ but definately not particularly strong - suspect I'd need at least 4mg to be satisfied. Of course Shulgin puts DOC/DOB about equal strength so I am curious as to this measure - half of 2.8 in this case would definitely be an underdose but you haven't validated this finding yourself. As for duration I am expecting at least 30hrs based on experience; I don't think there is any oral drug in phikal/tihkal that the duration wasn't at least as long as the longer figure quoted.

Anyone else on the relative potency of DOC/DOB?
 
Ah gotcha. Well yeah I would definitely take both then. I am pretty sure you'll be satisfied. :)

My impression from users' experiences here over the years is that DOB is around twice the potency of DOC.

My own sensitivities relative to PIHKAL are all over the map, some I find right on and some far too little. I find 2C-C to be right on the money actually, and 2C-D pretty close too except that I think he misjudged its character as a weak substance and just didn't dose high enough. I find DOM to be far weaker than Shulgin does, but DOC is right on. The weirdest one is DOiP, which Shulgin mentioned in another entry and said up to 40mg was entirely inactive, but for me, 5mg is pretty active and 12mg bordered on uncomfortable, though still not fully psychedelic really. And others who have tried it recently find it pretty active, too. And I am positive the DOiP myself and others have tried is authentic because I had it lab tested.
 
Sir Ron Pib said:
I would welcome opinions from those who have taken this. I have sat on 2 blotters (1.4mg each) for a few years now since this is one of the few psychedelics I am a bit scared to try due to the extreme length and oft reported unpleasant stimulation and other bodyload effects. Now generally a good many of us find Shulgins doses on the low side and sometimes (2CC/2CD) preposterously low but almost no one seems to venture beyond Shulgins 3mg top end; given most of my experience I have the suspicion that any less than 2.8mg would lead to a disappointing ‘underdose’ mentally but I’d like to know if many are really finding around 3mg too strong? Also I have a strong tendency towards reporting much longer durations than average for pretty much all the psychedelics I have tried; I hope it isn’t the case but suspect at least 30hrs out of it which is a nightmare it’s self but that is another issue altogether and just me but I’d be interested to hear peoples thoughts on dosage before / if I take the plunge - I go hot and cold on actually trying this stuff given the not entirely good reception the stuff gets (even taking out all the reports sold as LSD which wouldn’t give the best results)
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2.8mg will probably be very strong. It must be about 6-8mg of DOC if I had to guess, though I haven't gone that far with DOC, 5mg DOC was nowhere close in intensity.
People tend to say that above 2mg is where the real magic happens, and based on my one trip I can see why. But I don't think 1.4mg will be an underdose either way, I don't think 0.7 mg would be a waste either, that's the way I'd split it (0.7 + 2.1), but that might be a controversial opinion.
As far as DOB goes, I think it's a fantastic and incredibly fun drug, but very heavy, be prepared for extreme stimulation and a long duration. If things do go right, I wouldn't worry too much about the duration, it's the experience you know, DOB gives you power, you use it and you just don't want to go to sleep yet.
 
How is DOBs tolerance- is it unique like 2CB is?
As far as my experiences with DOx:
I have had interesting experiences with DOC where both LSD and ALD-52 felt to have no diminished effects 2-3 days later.. I've tried this two occasions and sure enough no measurable tolerance.
 
sin_is_synthetic said:
How is DOBs tolerance- is it unique like 2CB is?
As far as my experiences with DOx:
I have had interesting experiences with DOC where both LSD and ALD-52 felt to have no diminished effects 2-3 days later.. I've tried this two occasions and sure enough no measurable tolerance.
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I know this is a three year old comment and I don't mean to revive an ancient thread, but I used 2.25mg of DOB two days ago, and half an hour dropped 1.5mg and I'm definitely noticing first alerts of that uniquely DOx stimulation. If the trip evolves any further I'll update this comment with information. Nothing else is in my system other than my regularly prescribed 200mg of Bupropion IR, and maybe later a joint or two but given I'm a daily cannabis consumer I doubt it'll impact things very much.

Edit: It usually takes 3-5 hours for DOB to kick in, two days ago I took 3 tabs, today I took 2 and then immediately ate 3 pulled pork sandwiches. That shit was greatly unwise. Vomited them up and came home to wrap my work day up remote, I was quite confident there would be no impact from DOB as DOM does nothing even with escalated doses for up to 5 days after administration. DOB does seem slightly reduced in potency, but I can't tell if that's because it's still coming up, because I ate after taking the tabs, or because of a partial tolerance, but there's definitely at least 50-75% of expected effects only two days after having dosed last.
 
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DOB can be a great chemical. It can also suck - set and setting seems more important than a more "forgiving" lady like LSD. That's not saying I found DOB to be harsh, although some have, it just has the potential to be.

For my first time (A few weeks ago), I took 3mg, and turned into a giggling mess for a few hours, beginning almost immediately after vomiting. I appreciate that the nausea takes a few minutes longer than the usual chem to manifest, so you don't vomit up your shit immediately and waste it all. The mind and body on the come up are very speedy, and I have found euphoria is more common within the first 8 hours. Pain sensations are greatly reduced - I encountered this each and every time I tripped (3 in total). Mentally, the headspace came off as exhausting, in spite of the bodily stimulation. Of course, I was still mentally stimulated, I just felt tired after maybe 3 hours - this usually continued until the come down, again felt each time.

My second time, I took 6mg, and it was a totally different time. Much less bodily discomfort, which matched my more relaxed mental set before dosing. The visuals were much more prevalent, the bodily sensations became near orgasmic on the first peak after the come up, and my mind felt more at ease. I ended up going for a walk in the snow that lasted ~3.5 hours, in the middle of the night. Wandering through the forest, I never felt lost a single time. My executive function seemed mostly unaffected, even though I was plastered. Great night. Residual motivation and stimulation for ~1.5 days after.

DOB has a fuck ton of potential and seems to have a bad reputation. If used safely and mindfully, It can be an extremely fulfilling experience. Come to your own conclusions about a substance everybody! :weeeeeee::weeeeeee::weeeeeee:
 
6mg sounds like an overdose. I've tried it at the 2.8mg mark. However any more I can imagine being overly stimulating.

This compound has a reputation for causing vasoconstriction also.

Just to add to your report, set & setting are pretty much what it's all about.
 
Leprechaun said:
6mg sounds like an overdose. I've tried it at the 2.8mg mark. However any more I can imagine being overly stimulating.

This compound has a reputation for causing vasoconstriction also.

Just to add to your report, set & setting are pretty much what it's all about.
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I don't know if my tabs were underdosed or something, as I'm not a hardhead by any means, but 3mg was not intense at all to me. That 6mg trip, although I likely had a bit of tolerance, felt more like what people describe a moderate-strong DOB experience to be like.

I remember reading the about the vasoconstrictive properties and made a conscious effort while I was tripping to look out for symptoms. I really only noticed mild symptoms, akin to something like a moderate LSA trip, on the tail end of the 6mg dose.
 
Also of interesting note, many people, including myself, have found a strong diminishing of the psychedelic effects when any alcohol is consumed with DOB. I was about 3-4 hrs into an experience, low dose of 0.7mg as a museum dose, I had made my way to a resort in Vietnam. The effects were nice, had the subtle warmth of the phenethylamines in the background, decided to down a cocktail (or perhaps two). Viola, the warmth went up, but the colour enhancement went mute.

The rest of the experience was lovely, but somewhat muted. I didn't notice any of the expected subtle psychedelic effects.
 
Leprechaun said:
Also of interesting note, many people, including myself, have found a strong diminishing of the psychedelic effects when any alcohol is consumed with DOB. I was about 3-4 hrs into an experience, low dose of 0.7mg as a museum dose, I had made my way to a resort in Vietnam. The effects were nice, had the subtle warmth of the phenethylamines in the background, decided to down a cocktail (or perhaps two). Viola, the warmth went up, but the colour enhancement went mute.

The rest of the experience was lovely, but somewhat muted. I didn't notice any of the expected subtle psychedelic effects.
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I personally have to take more of a serotonergic alongside a GABA PAM like benzos, GHB, or alcohol if I want it to continue work as expected. I typically would microdose 2C-B at 4-8mg, but if I want to do that alongside 1-1.15mg of etizolam, I'll take 12-15mg of 2C-B to compensate. LSD and GHB is another great one, I personally adore mixing GABA and serotonin PAMs, but it's just a fickle game of aligning both potency and duration, adjusting accordingly.
 
Esperighanto said:
I personally have to take more of a serotonergic alongside a GABA PAM like benzos, GHB, or alcohol if I want it to continue work as expected. I typically would microdose 2C-B at 4-8mg, but if I want to do that alongside 1-1.15mg of etizolam, I'll take 12-15mg of 2C-B to compensate. LSD and GHB is another great one, I personally adore mixing GABA and serotonin PAMs, but it's just a fickle game of aligning both potency and duration, adjusting accordingly.
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I always find that any type of benzodiazepine or barbiturate (primarily phenobarbital) is useful only as an adjunct to physical stimulation. When it comes to the mental effects, these compounds really mute the desired effect, which is an opening of the emotions.
 
Leprechaun said:
I always find that any type of benzodiazepine or barbiturate (primarily phenobarbital) is useful only as an adjunct to physical stimulation. When it comes to the mental effects, these compounds really mute the desired effect, which is an opening of the emotions.
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My subjective experience with benzos isn't that they dull emotion, moreso that they pull be back to observe my emotions in the same way that dissociatives and psychedelics can do. This however, seems to be a VERY rare response to benzos, only a couple people I've ever met experience them similarly.
 
Heard a couple mentions of a good combo with LSD. How long should I wait to dose the acid after the DOB to try and line the peaks up without wasting too much to tolerance?
Also if anyone's tried this before I'd love some insight, seems like the LSD could bring out and synergize with the visuals and stimulation serendipitously.
 
Nonyascaline said:
Heard a couple mentions of a good combo with LSD. How long should I wait to dose the acid after the DOB to try and line the peaks up without wasting too much to tolerance?
Also if anyone's tried this before I'd love some insight, seems like the LSD could bring out and synergize with the visuals and stimulation serendipitously.
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I've done this before, took both at the same time and it was nice. I believe it was ~450ug of LSD and 1.5mg of DOB, but I'm also quite hardheaded with dosing so probably start lower. It felt like I could've recreated the experience perfectly with about 15mg of methamphetamine, the same amount of acid, and 20-30mg of 2C-B. It was nice, but I much prefer LSD with miprocin, allylescaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, 25C-NBOMe, DOM out 2C-B if I'm pairing it up with another psychedelic.
 
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