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The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

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From what I understand, it can be done. However, foil is not very efficient. I have also read that there may be NaOH left from the extraction which may react with the foil. Really though, a glass bowl is ideal so that one can take large hits without wasting much and get a proper, quick dose. I'm not sure about the NaOH reacting with the Al, perhaps someone more versed in chemistry can clarify.
 
Tried it my first time this week.
Time #1: I coughed immediately and did not absorb much. Still got some pretty visuals and it felt nice.

Time #2(5 days or so later): Used lightbulb and held in much more smoke for longer - still only 10-15 seconds, coughed, then did same with part of what remained. 100mg dose, though I'd guess easily 30-40mg remains. It was amazing! Visuals can't be described. Most intense euphoria I ever felt. There was a sound of singing and crystal sounds. Visuals moved very fast, I felt as if I were communicating telepathically with entities, though I now can't understand much of what was said, Sadly, it was strong for 3 or 4 minutes and worn off within 15 minutes.

Next time I mix with moclobemide (an MAOI).
 
hm, i'll get hunting then :) just out of curiosity, if there's leftover lye surely that's a big no-no to smoke anyway? then again, it doesn't seem to stop those who've written about the stb extraction i'm going to try... (can you tell i failed A-level chemistry? haha... pharmacology itself was always more my thing, altho i do regret having little working chemical knowledge)

also, any tips for a first-timer (bear in mind i've plumbed the depths of erowid and nexus, anything i wouldn't have read on there?)?
 
I would definately not smoke it if there's enough hydroxide in there to react with the Al. Better do a recrystallisation if you suspect your DMT to have considerable amounts of lye in it.

It would be very hard to get a breakthrough from smoking of foil anyway, you'd need to be very good at chasing (the DMT melts and tries to run away from the flame). 50mg+ will produce loads of vapor you must suck into your lungs before you are too high to do it.

Best idea is to dissolve it in isoprop or acetone, throw a herb of choice in the solution, let the solvent vape of and smoke the herb out of a bong. Greet the elves from me ;)
 
Lightbulb vapes work ok. Or this

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Heres what you get if there is still NaOH in there

although NaAlO2 and H2 are the products of that. I doubt there will be enough H2 to combust but you better be pretty sure that your DMT is like washed or freeze-precipitated. And NaAlO2 melts at 1800 degrees celcius so it looks more harmful than it is (also the amount of NaOH will be really tiny as hell).
Still you will imagine that this is far from ideal. I wanna relativate the risks a little here but this is not recommended as best practice and a nice pipe is really what you want.

This thread is merged into the Big & Dandy DMT thread :)
 
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Would it even react in the absence of water? And afaik the products would be [Al(OH)4] and H2 ;)

Back to topic: what's the best time to smoke DMT on a medium-dose shroomtrip (1/8 ). Would you rather do it on the peak or on the comedown - or maybe even as kickstart? Definately heading for a breakthrough
 
My understanding was that even if you had Lye leftover, it's melting point is far too high to inhale anything of it?
 
ChasingTheCat said:
Back to topic: what's the best time to smoke DMT on a medium-dose shroomtrip (1/8 ). Would you rather do it on the peak or on the comedown - or maybe even as kickstart? Definately heading for a breakthrough
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I'd definitely recommend the kickstart option! It's impossible not to be in a great mood after a good DMT blastoff, and I'm sure it'll put you in a headspace that will make for smooth sailing into a positive mushroom experience.

Although I've never tried anything like this.
 
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Would it even react in the absence of water? And afaik the products would be [Al(OH)4] and H2 ;)
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Well you're right. NaOH attracts water from the air I think, so there can be a tiny bit of a reaction and it seems I was wrong about the NaAlO2, it is NaAlO4 that can be formed but only if there is a bit of water to have the original product AlO3 and NaOH react with again.

I think the point we have to reach here is that these compounds are just not volatile so the risk is minimal, but this is still not territory one should be scouting. The amount of water needed to create a dangerous volume of hydrogen gas is not realistic in this case. I don't know if anybody would object to that, but digressing more than this is indeed unnecessary.

Man I may bring my shit over to my dad's next week and take a hit with him there. Some crazy carnivalesque cosmic warm lap's healing is in order and also I will be doing another extraction. The healing would be part of the phase transition I'm currently
going through. :)

<3 =D

DMT feels pretty shroomy to me so I imagine that to be a perfect kickstart. Actually 4-AcO-DMT sounds like the absolute perfect one from what I can tell without personal experience...
I know 2C-B and LSD to be beautiful launch pads, but especially 2C-B is not incredibly intense in addition. It just makes it all grow
an extra neon tint, the result of it was probably the most colorful vision of a living Santa Clauses old skool toy world I've ever seen!
 
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Hey everyone.... first of all, forgive me if the information I'm looking for has already been covered or mentioned elsewhere.... I've been reading the forums for hours and haven't found what I'm looking for....

Now... for what I'd like to know...

I've never done DMT, but I've researched the hell out of it...

I got a small amount of DMT last night... I'd say about the size of a dime if you spread it out flat. Is that enough for one trip?

Also... I don't have any way to smoke it with, except a glass pipe I use for herb. No screens either... so my question is, what do you think if I just sprinkled it on top of some herb and smoked it that way? I'm aware not to touch the flame to the DMT, but do you guys think this will work out for me?

Should I try smoking all of it? Or just take one big hit off the pipe? I would imagine its only like 2 or 3 hits at most.

How about rolling it into a joint?

Any other helpful suggestions? Thanks in advance!
 
Miss Tury said:
Should I try smoking all of it? Or just take one big hit off the pipe? I would imagine its only like 2 or 3 hits at most.

How about rolling it into a joint?

Any other helpful suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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Try obtain a bong for your first time.. a pipe will probably be difficult to smoke it through untill your more experienced with it. I smoked it through a pipe my first time and messed it up.

Dont roll it into a joint.

I also have no idea about dosages.. I worked my way up from a half a cone piece to an almost full one over 3 experiences (with the same mixture). I smoked all of them in 1 hit.. as i feel its the only way to really get maximum effect deep into your lungs.
 
So, I will get the chance to try DMT for the first time tomorrow night, but I'm a bit nervous due to my experience with salvia divinorum. I have had difficult times on DPT and mushrooms, and I was able to work my way through those, but I completely lost my shit on salvia. Even though I didn't actually break through, I was completely terrified by it, and I panicked and tried to resist it. But I hear that DMT is usually more friendly than salvia is.

So, my question is, is it true that DMT is more welcoming? I have made sure that I have the right set and setting. And do you have any tips to get rid of this anxiety I'm having?
 
Very very true, not saying that DMT can't be terrifying though...but DMT has a much more comfortable body feel, much less forceful I'd say, but you'd best not resist anyway.
 
Hey guys.

After my first attempt at smoking dmt (55mg piled on tobbacco through a bong) Im concerned that the way in which im ingesting it is directly linked to what I saw to be a lack of intense effects.

I definately had a warp in perception for around five minutes (and by warp I mean WOW for five mintues) but not what I would consider or what I have been told is a break through.

would a wine glass or test tube pipe be a better bet for enhancing my second expereince, it will be the same material and the same dose

thanks in advance
 
My preferred smoking method is through a bong, and it can be very effective if done right. But yeah, 55 mg should have put you in a different world, though you may just be insensitive to dmt, or not have a particularly pure product. Most likely what is happening is that you're burning the dmt though. When you light it, you want to hold the flame close to the dmt, but not touch it, so that it will vaporize and not burn. Putting a small layer of whatever smoking herb you are using on top of the dmt can help to protect it from the flame. I'd also recommend using something a little less harsh than tobacco (like cannabis, or an herbal tea if you have any) so you can really get good deep lungfuls and hold it.

Hope that helps! Getting the technique down for smoking dmt is a little tricky at first but once you get it.. 8o8o:D:D8o<3<3
 
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