The Big & Dandy Deliriants Thread

[SKL]

Story time with SKL. My only real experience with deleriants, and it second-hand:

Me and me old lady at the time. I'm travelling after some shows, with my girl at the time, both of us spun to all hell on some kind of cocktail of LSD, DOC, 4-MAR, ketamine, and probably some other things I'm neglecting to mention (remember, do as I say, not as I do), been up for several days, etc. We wound up in the city, in this tiny, filthy cramped studio apartment in the LES of this wooked out guy who introduced himself as an "urban shaman." Our respective collections of drugs come out and we party a little, then he reaches deep into his bag and picks up a big old bag of datura seeds. I know exactly what the hell they are and am quick to say no thank you, but the wook/shaman keeps going on about how they "impart spiritual power," and I wasn't able to convince my girl not to do it. She, having never been to the city, wants to go to Times Square of all places, and was a pretty headstrong chick, so let's just say I spent the next 24 hours or so trying to keep up with her deliriously wandering around the city and doing things like trying to go down on the up escalator. She was completely incoherent, conversing with people who weren't there, etc. It could've been a really potentially dangerous situation but thankfully even as much drugs as I had in my system I was able to manage things, but I would not be very interested in a do-over.

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[dez79]

Ive tried high dose 150mg doxylamine and it was a horrendous experience cant piss yet full bladder , depression horrid but yes i was out of it all right for 8 hours

 

[Xorkoth]

Bump for prune.

 

[nepalnt21]

toilet thoughts:

i disagree that one cannot navigate an intoxicated (on for example datura) headspace without risk of delirium.

(i've read before where ppl say it cannot be done because the dosage window is too narrow).

i think the big problem (aside from these things being inherently dangerous af) is that different species, different cultivars, same plant in different seasons, hell even different parts of the same plant at the same time can have WILDLY different potencies as well as come up times and durations (seems it's due to the different actions of the different ratios of compounds) and ppl simply don't know wtf they are doing.

some (like brugmansia leaves and green stems) can take two (plus) hours to feel anything. some (like datura double ballerina seeds) can take less than an hour, iirc... and are INCREDIBLY potent. like two seeds is a potent dose, vs other daturas where it might take 20 or 50 seeds.

and then one can cut the 2 hour brugmansia comeup to a half hour with the buccal roa, smoking, etc.

but my point is don't fuck around cause these things take decadeS to get to know, and even then will probably bite you (and/ or those you love) at some point.

one pointer: if you are having dry mouth, mydriasis, trouble pissing, trouble swallowing... stop dosing (2 hours ago) and immediately find a strong and willing sitter ;D

 

[bigjackaal96]

I really do love how Deliriants like DPH or Datura are in a way more rewarding as It more active effort to get a decent trip compared to LSD or Ketamine. I still consider Alcohol to be a GABAergic deliriant since I've had moments where I thought on DPH with effects expected from 200 ~ 450mg then I get bizzare psychdelic effects.

I have no idea why Delirium Is compared to dementia when even medical scientists/doctors have stopped doing It. Your basically psychotic but with very clouded thoughts that can also be manic. The idea M1 ~ M5 in the brain being low causes dementia dosen't add up when unmedicated psychotic people have spent 40+ years with hypoactive CNS M1 ~ M5 receptors without issues.