The Big & Dandy AMT / αMT Thread - 4th Rush

[Zazen]

I'm very surprised to see only a 1/5 of voters have found high levels of nausea from AMT! Every time i've taken it orally i've felt extremely sick on the come up, and the last time I did it with my mate he threw up quite violently (luckily we were in a house, could have been interesting at a club!).

For those who find it causes sickness though plugging almost completely eliminates it (if it's freebase mix it with white vinegar). If you're uncomfortable with plugging then i've found powdered ginger root to help out immensely, a few teaspoon mixed in water tastes disgusting but really helps settle the stomach and has the added benefit of helping with vasco-constriction.

 

[Swedish Penguin]

Is it necessary to add vinegar? ive plugged freebase without and I didnt notice a difference in potency from an eaten dosage, though obviously no nausea.

 

[sn23]

I had caustic burns under my tongue after dosing the freebase sublingually. Aching swollen lumps of tissue making talking rather difficult for a week. No idea how high the chances for that are when plugged, but I don't see why anyone should take the risk. Dissolving one dose of freebase in a few drops of vinegar and diluting in a few milliliters of water isn't that much more work.

 

[Zazen]

Is it necessary to add vinegar? ive plugged freebase without and I didnt notice a difference in potency from an eaten dosage, though obviously no nausea.

Converting it to the salt means it dissolves in water, which makes it easier to get up there. It should also absorb better as the salt, and you can get 50mg of AMT to go into 1ml of water with 1ml of white vinegar (mixed in a spoon and heated with a lighter).

Edit: I've also noticed a plugged dose hardly differs from an oral dose, but the reduction in body load is massive (no nausea/jitteryness etc).

 

[Ondine]

I took one aMT pill containing 30mg at around 1:20PM.

It's now 4:25PM and I can feel the effects but I'm pretty underwhelmed. Some mild mdma like sensations, a little bit of stimulation. No real visuals to speak of.
I have 3 more pills left. Is it worth redosing another pill in anyone's opinion? Or am I better off saving the other 3 for next weekend or the week after.

 

[OTGee]

I took one aMT pill containing 30mg at around 1:20PM.

It's now 4:25PM and I can feel the effects but I'm pretty underwhelmed. Some mild mdma like sensations, a little bit of stimulation. No real visuals to speak of.
I have 3 more pills left. Is it worth redosing another pill in anyone's opinion? Or am I better off saving the other 3 for next weekend or the week after.

aMT can take a while to come up, it has been nearly an hour since your post so hopefully you havent gone and dossed more. It can take up to 6 - 8 hours on occasion before you reach any kind of peak, my first aMT trip it took 10 hours around and then I was overwhelmed with the whole effects in around 3 hours. Best trip of my life by far.

EDIT: If you have dosed more dont worry, 60mg would not be at all fatal although you might get a bit of discomfort / crazy visuals it will be ok. Feel free to pm me if your getting a big panicky I used to trip on aMT once or twice a week for a good few months.

 

[Ondine]

decided to just stick with one, as the effects are mild but they are enjoyable. I'm looking for a more intense experience next week so I'm thinking about popping all 3.

 

[OTGee]

decided to just stick with one, as the effects are mild but they are enjoyable. I'm looking for a more intense experience next week so I'm thinking about popping all 3.

Wait a while, I dont think you are fully up at all. To me aMT lasts anywere from 14 - 20 hours so be careful. Also I highley do not reccomend taking 90mg's all at once for a first timer unless you are an experienced tripper. If this experience is not enough for you try 60mg's but just wait, I think (or hope) you will be pleasentley suprised within the next few hours.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Indeed, aMT takes a while to come up. I would definitely not jump from 30mg to 90mg just based on the level of effects you are feeling now. The dose response curve is not linear in the sense that 60mg will only be "twice" what you are feeling now. It will be a lot more intense than that.

Have a great time anyway, aMT is very special!

 

[OTGee]

He is very right, I would actually say don't even jump to 60mg now I think about it although you have some exp as I read your trip report about H, MXE, and aMT but maybe 30mg + half a cap (15mg) would be better, please tell us how it goes as well I am interested since reading your report and talking to you here haha, have fun

EDIT: If you think you can handle it try half a cap, bombed in a skin or something after 10 hours or so if you want to increase the intensity tonight

 

[Ondine]

update:

at this point its been about 7.5 hours since I took the aMT, 5.5 hours since I did the MXE and 3.5 Hours since I added the heroin.

Like I said earlier, the aMT was mild and has remained relatively mild up to this point. Looking at the combination of the 3 substances, I would say that the aMT has sort of provided a base for the other drugs. It's hard to put into words but maybe something like the aMT is the canvas and the MXE and H are the paint. It feels more complete and all encompassing than the other two.

The MXE seemed to potentiate the trippiness of the aMT while as well as potentiating the 'nodding' effect of the H. I feel completely relaxed and warm, and I feel as though the H is having some very nice afterglow effects. As this was also my first time using H, I can't judge how long I should continue to feel it, but in my past experiences with prescription opiates, there's usually a peak from 0.5-1.5 hours, followed by a fairly steep decline. With the combination of the 3, I felt that there was a large peak for the heroin where I was pretty couch locked. This subsided, but definitely not completely, and I can't help but attribute the fantastic physical and mental state I'm currently in to the addition of the aMT.

I'm not sure about redosing aMT at any point tonight for a few reasons. The main one being that I only have 90mg left and I think I'd like to save it for a separate occasion. Also, the aMT is dosed into large 'smarty' type tablets (which taste disgusting by the way), and while I could probably divide one up, I'm not confident that I would receive an equal dose.

In any case, I'm looking forward to trying 60mg of aMT next friday or saturday (possibly 90mg), and I suspect that I'll be adding heroin (among some other things) to that experience as well.

edit: I am pretty god damn itchy tho

 

[OTGee]

If your looking to properly trip on the aMT I would suggest trying it without H as although I have no exp mixing opiates and psychedelics apart from codeine I would imagine it makes trips a lot less visual. Also for aMT trips you really have to 'try hard to trip' if you get me. Like sit in a nice set and setting and just think and look and shit. Its not the kind of drug that gives you insane insight from watching tv thinking is this working or not. Also the fact you felt not that much is suspicious, maybe it isn't aMT / its bunk. I felt something definatley from around that dose and it was the greatest trip of my life, seriously even tripping on 100mg's didn't compare to it.

MXE also made aMT not so strong for me but most say it potentated it so maybe your like me

 

[psood0nym]

^It's hard to lose with that combo, though I guess some might find the MXE to be a little awkward (not me though!). I've combined aMT with pods or oxy and ketamine before and (not surprisingly) it was pretty great. You're sampling from most of the major classes with something like that, and interactions should, theoretically at least, be indirect. With aMT you've got a bridge between psychedelic and empathogen, kick in an opiate and a dissociative and it's hard not to feel great one way or another. I always try to keep the triple multi-class combos at a plus two dose of each so as to allow each add its own flavor without (hopefully) going overboard. Three is about as much as I do -- seeing as you can't count a little innocent herb and a drink or two

 

[Ondine]

Yeah I suppose it could be bunk, but the person I got it from is extremely reputable so I don't think that's the case. I did definitely feel some effects, but I'm very experienced with psychedelics so that might be why it didn't seem too intense. Also, I remember reading that many people have complained to erowid that the doses listed on their site (20-40mg common, 30-70mg strong doses I think) are much too low, while others find 30-40mg to be a very intense trip. I may just be one of those people that needs more of it. People react quite differently to different psychedelics. I can take handle 40mg of 2c-b or 5 tabs of acid and remain calm and collected if I have too, but the only time I've taken shrooms I took half of a slice and it was one of the most intense experiences of my life.

Anyway, when I do take aMT next week, I'll definitely wait for at least 4 or 5 hours before adding anything else to it, just so I can get a feel of what it's like by itself with a larger dose.

 

[Swedish Penguin]

I had caustic burns under my tongue after dosing the freebase sublingually. Aching swollen lumps of tissue making talking rather difficult for a week. No idea how high the chances for that are when plugged, but I don't see why anyone should take the risk. Dissolving one dose of freebase in a few drops of vinegar and diluting in a few milliliters of water isn't that much more work.

that could explain why my asshole burnt so much...

i would prefer to put it up my ass as a powder/ in a gelcap, makes it easier (just hop into some restroom with my pill instead of having it in a solution) , though maybe i could just drop some vinegar on it and let it dry and then cap it?

does anyone have a good idea for a dosage of 4-ho-met to mix with amt? like 2/3s of a regular dosage or 1/2? id usually aim for 20mgs of ho-met, or maybe more but its been a while.

 

[Syanide]

EDIT: about the dose, i hardly felt anything at 40mg, a bit (like a quarter blotter acid) on 60mg, that's why 100 was the next target.. going further like 120 or 150mg just feels wrong somehow

Just took 50mg of HCL (Website said freebase, but I ended up receiving HCL ) and it ended up being a sub-visual almost threshold dose which was very disappointing.

What was unusual was that I started coming up after around 30 mins (as opposed to 1h/2h mark using freebase). There was no real discernible peak and by the 4h mark i simply felt tired and wanted to sleep. I ended up sleeping at around 9h in feeling almost the same as I did at 3h.

Would love to hear how your 100mg goes loremipsum, cause I think me and you have HCL at similar potency and I was thinking of dosing the same amount.

 

[ink!]

hey, i got some amt today and it's a light tan colour, is that normal? i've been looking for reports that describe what the substance looks like but can't find any.

 

[Zazen]

hey, i got some amt today and it's a light tan colour, is that normal? i've been looking for reports that describe what the substance looks like but can't find any.

Yeh that's normal, i've had batches that have been white, tan and practically orange and haven't noticed any difference in effects. Only difference is the white batch didn't really smell at all, so i'm assuming the tan/orange batches just contain more impurities.

But it really doesn't matter what a drug looks like, any drug could be a light tan colour, so I'd worry less about the colour and more about using trust worthy sources

 

[Survived Abortion]

Yes, the batch I have is tan as well. It is very potent indeed. It only takes a relatively small amount of impurity to colour a batch of powder.

 

[lynx2051]

I'm so cold and warm in the nicest possible way. 42mg + 25mg MXE + Weed. :D

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Trippin really bad!!!!!!!