The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

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I reckon it was MDEA

 

[cecil_cbr]

Either your brain is just too fried from overuse of serotonin releasing drugs or the 6-apb you got was just weak or mislabeled.

I have actually used the same vendor for different batches of 6-apb and had one batch give me incredible euphoria while the next batch was just "moderate" i would say (with a 3 month break, so i should have rolled quite nicely). You never know what is really going on in the labs that create this stuff- mistakes happen and people can get lazy or impatient and rush the production of these chemicals. Try a different vendor man, you might be surprised to find a much better batch that actually gives you a good roll.

 

[Shifty38]

I have actually used the same vendor for different batches of 6-apb and had one batch give me incredible euphoria while the next batch was just "moderate" i would say

I've had the exact same experience with two batches of 5-APB.

 

[The King of Beans]

That's true, but I find morphine (never done heroin) gives you an empty euphoria bigger than mdma. I mean: you got arrested for making lsd and distributing trough whole the world (what a hero :D ), you're in jail, ugly/old prison.
Doing mdma in your ugly cell would suck, you'll definitely feel the happiness is completely forced... Heroin would feel much better.
I find that MDMA sometimes has that forced happy feeling (btw I've done some 82% pure lab tested mdma, testing is free, provided by the government).
That's why I'm starting to like 6-apb more than mdma.

PS: maybe your vendor mislabeled your product...

You are totally right. MDMA would be boring if you were in a cell. You need to have music and something to blow you up. But that means the mdma is weak. If it is super strong and you have enough, you will be blowin doors sitting there doing nothing. The only thing that completely killed my roll in a while was sitting in the freezing cold with no music, and it was super windy. What a buzzkill. BUT again these were weak pokeball beans from 2010. I'd say they only had 80 mg's of mdma in them tops...and I had a big tolernece. So it's just the quality of MDMA has went to shit over the years. I never get eye wiggles from it anymore. I never get the super rushes it used to give me back in the late 90's early 2000 years. So, quality does play a big issue (I know it's not just my tolerence Ive verified this with other people as well) MDMA simply is not and most likely never will be as good as it used to be.) But it is still fantastic if you have some weed and some music to go along with it. To be honest for a while there my tolerence was so high to mdma that if I did not smoke weed and drink beer with it, I would feel totally sober no matter how many pills I took. Even not doing it everyday (I never did it everyday, 3 days in a row would be my max before I'd take a break...but for a few months I was doing it up to 20x per month (5x per week) I noticed on the 3rd day you don't really roll anymore, you just get a headache from it. Now back in the day when the MDMA was good quality I nearly died from rolling all the time, because it really took a toll on my body. Plus a lot of the pills had speed in them too which accounts for much worse hangovers and bad side effects. MDMA on it's own is a clean drug, I think it's pretty safe and hard to abuse because if you take it too much it wont do anything to you...so that naturally keeps you in check. I know I abused it though and I regret it. Treat it nice and it will treat you nice. lol It's been almost an entire year since I've done any MDMA at all. I actually took a 5 year break from it from 2002 to 2007 and the last really strong pills I had was actually back in 07. After moving to the west coast, I found the pills are far more clean out here, than they were in florida where I came from. So clean in fact that I was able to do them 20x per month without any really bad side effects. The pills in florida I think were a little more dirty (But still mdma) and stronger so I couldn't do them more than once or twice a week there or I'd be confined to the bed, feeling like I was dying. Well sorry Im ranting on I took a roxy and those make me talk a lot. Im probably repeating myself now and sounding boring...so I'll respond to the other posts in a minute.

 

[The King of Beans]

Either your brain is just too fried from overuse of serotonin releasing drugs or the 6-apb you got was just weak or mislabeled.

I have actually used the same vendor for different batches of 6-apb and had one batch give me incredible euphoria while the next batch was just "moderate" i would say (with a 3 month break, so i should have rolled quite nicely). You never know what is really going on in the labs that create this stuff- mistakes happen and people can get lazy or impatient and rush the production of these chemicals. Try a different vendor man, you might be surprised to find a much better batch that actually gives you a good roll.

I dont see how my brain could be too fried. I take 5 HTP and if I did MDMA I would still roll from that. So why wouldnt 6-apb work for me? I know what I felt on the drug- Dirty and slightly trippy like a piperazine. There has to be something wrong with what I got though, if everyone here is against what Im saying. The more people say this, the more I wish I would of gotten a good batch. But if I try it again from somewhere else and it gives me the same dirty feeling..I'll know I was right with my theory. Because I DONT get that dirty feeling from MDMA, only from pipes. No matter how bad of quality the mdma is. I just get a weak roll. The 6-apb is not a weak roll(although felt like it for the first hour) So, I guess I will try it again sometime, but the stuff I got now is just terrible. I seriously doubt frying my brain in the past, has anything to do with why I got a dirty tripping feeling from this 6-apb. It just doesnt make sense. Either I roll or trip from a drug. Never in my life have I ever tripped from MDMA. lol

What else is the same colour as 6-apb? Anything if you mix in a bit of gravy browning.

Yeah but it had the smell people described...and I dont see why this reputable vendor would purposely try to rip me off. If I had to bet on it, I have real stuff, probably low quality, but still I seriously doubt even high quality 6-apb would compare to mdma. It's just a totally different feeling. Even if I had stuff 10x stronger than what I have now, it would just be 10x more terrible than it is. I'm telling you it feels IDENTICAL to the beans you get which have piperazines in them. I know there are many different pipes and Ive had many, but it feels like weak TMFPP but with worse after day effects.

well isn't there a coincidence, i just happened to be the person that left that feedback. all i want to tell you is that i have had some veryyyyyyyyyyy good, pure, lab tested MDMA crystals and i have experienced the same, if not more euphoria on 6-apb than on MDMA, especially at doses of 180mg or higher(high...i know, i have large tolerance for phens, even the psychedelic ones). and while it has some badass visuals at those higher doses, it is much more like rolling than tripping. and your theory about drugs effecting people differently because they're naturally happy? come on, thats ridiculous. ill admit that I'm far from happy with my life right now, and i roll haaaaaaaard on 6-apb

It's not ridiculous. You dont sound far from happy. Just because youre not happy with your life, doesnt mean you're low on serotonin. You obviously have a lot of serotonin which I can tell by just reading your post. AND you probably had the same batch of 6-apb I got, and you're saying you roll from it? This is boggling my mind, how in the heck you could "Roll" from this stuff. There is no logical explaination of how you Roll from this shit unless you've already got high serotonin to begin with. I also know from experience. Before I fried my brain I felt really happy from trip drugs. Now I do not feel that anymore. You're saying the higher the dose, the more you roll? Others said it is more trippy at higher doses. I stand by my theory that you already have so much serotonin that you confuse 6-apb to be like rolling. So there is no right and wrong here. To some people 6-apb may feel like rolling, but to me it does not. All I can say is you are lucky to be able to roll from the stuff, because I tried twice. Can you explain any other reason why you are "Rolling" from this stuff and I am not? We obviously had the same batch since we ordered around the same time.

PS- My girlfriend also says the 6-apb is lame and she has never fried her brain. I guess all I can do to know for sure, is to get another batch, this time from a different vendor..have it lab tested. And if I get the same dirty piperazine tripping feeling (Which again, pipes, to me, feel nothing like rolling although many people think they do) then I will know for sure there is no way for me to ever roll from 6-apb.

 

[futuretastic]

A few things directed at king of beans:

1. U know nothimg about mdma dude. Some ppl drop pure mdma and get totally paranoid. Your assumption of what mdma does is completely wrong and based largely on marketing imo. All drugs have the capacity to effect everyone differently, or at least have their effects interpereted differently by the user.

2. Everyone understands what you think about 6apb at this point, youve been repeating yourself for like three pages. You dont
Like 6apb...ok..whatever... your opinion of the drug isnt THAT big of a deal, and youve made it clear.

Later, no hard feelings just go by some damn mdma if u like it so much, the rest of us can keep eating 6a for a long lasting mda esque roll.

 

[6apbhmm]

What are you not understanding KoB? 30minutes ago you finally acknowledged that there must have been something wrong with your 6-APB.
Also, 30 minutes ago you said you don't know how your brain could be too fried and now you say Before I frid my brain lol!

Keebsington wasn't just lucky to have a good time on this, from my estimate like 80% people enjoy this drug so it's actually you who are minority.

I never had ultra quality mdma, just average or below but I dare to say I find 6-APB just as euphoric too.

Moderators please, this thread need cleaning, like merging posts, theres a lot of useless data now.

 

[Smokey_McPot]

KoB your double/ triple posting just makes me ignore everything you post. how annoying... there is an edit feature ya know.

 

[drdragon1970]

Weight: 220 Height: 6' 1"

Received package labeled 6-apb powder 98%, contents are a fluffy off white substance, not hard crystals.

Has anyone seen this type of consistency for 6-apb? Most of the posts talk about a tan consistency.
FYI, this is not sold as orignal benzo furry/group of 5 product, vendor has that on re-order.

9:00 Ingested small amount 1mg or less for allergy test: can feel something in my head, so seems active, no allergic reaction in next 2.5 hours.

11:30 p.m. Since I'm not sure, this is real 6-apb, I decide to start out slow and do a safety/effects trial and ingest around 1/3 of the recommended dose and take 28mg in water

12:30 a.m. Some flushing noted, small increase in heart rate, pupils are larger

1 a.m. - 2 a.m. Notice increased skin sensitivity, nothing major, consistent with what I attribute to a serotonin increase
2:30 - No noticeable visual changes, no Euphoria

Want to get some sleep so take Prozac to kill any activity if this agent reacts like MDMA and some Alprolozam.

Drug seems safe at this level.

Morning woke up fresh, no hangover, no large pupils, but eyes are sensitive to bright daylight

Anyone have an opinion if these affects seem consistent with a low 1/3 dose?
What would be a good next step up, 90-100 mg?

Also any info on taking prozac on a real 100mg dose 4-5 hours into it, to stop the thrip and help with come down and hangover
the next day.

 

[atara]

Triple-post merged. Please don't multipost; use the edit button. If a thread is inactive and you have new information to contribute, you can post again to bump the thread; otherwise, avoid double-posting wherever possible.

 

[6apbhmm]

drdragon1970 yes these effects are quite consistent, the more you take the faster heart will be but its never uncomfortable, however pupils become HUGE on this. For me this is big advantage if I want to go to a club since I prefer people not knowing I'm so high. This makes you obvious to everybody who never heard about drugs lol. 30mg can't cause euphoria that's sure, I recommend those 90-100mg

 

[coelophysis]

Can someone clean up this annoying guys quadruple posts that have been throughout these last few pages? It's really annoying to have to skip over entire pages because it's some complainer complaining about his bad batch being the real thing.

 

[FrequentFlyer]

And why is each batch so different? How can you roll from one and trip from another? Until I experience it myself I am not going to believe it.

Doesn´t need to be a different batch for me to experience it differently. I wouldn´t consider calling one a trip and the other a roll. It´s the same high, some effects are more pronounced than others. Don´t get too stuck on these two words, it is its own thing.

Frequent Fyler-so I just had bad luck then? Can I ask if any of the batches felt like pipes to you?

Only at high doses or long sessions.
My guess is you took too much. Dunno if it´s allowed to say more about this but when you buy <1g of their 6-apb it´s not a good idea to eyeball doses.

 

[Shifty38]

Weight: 220 Height: 6' 1"

Received package labeled 6-apb powder 98%, contents are a fluffy off white substance, not hard crystals.

Has anyone seen this type of consistency for 6-apb? Most of the posts talk about a tan consistency.
FYI, this is not sold as orignal benzo furry/group of 5 product, vendor has that on re-order.

9:00 Ingested small amount 1mg or less for allergy test: can feel something in my head, so seems active, no allergic reaction in next 2.5 hours.

11:30 p.m. Since I'm not sure, this is real 6-apb, I decide to start out slow and do a safety/effects trial and ingest around 1/3 of the recommended dose and take 28mg in water

12:30 a.m. Some flushing noted, small increase in heart rate, pupils are larger

1 a.m. - 2 a.m. Notice increased skin sensitivity, nothing major, consistent with what I attribute to a serotonin increase
2:30 - No noticeable visual changes, no Euphoria

Want to get some sleep so take Prozac to kill any activity if this agent reacts like MDMA and some Alprolozam.

Drug seems safe at this level.

Morning woke up fresh, no hangover, no large pupils, but eyes are sensitive to bright daylight

Anyone have an opinion if these affects seem consistent with a low 1/3 dose?
What would be a good next step up, 90-100 mg?

Also any info on taking prozac on a real 100mg dose 4-5 hours into it, to stop the thrip and help with come down and hangover
the next day.

Yep, both your initial test - 1mg - and your later slightly higher dose are perfectly consistent with my experience. 100mg would be an excellent starting point - it was for me - although to get the real deal, I prefer between 150 and 200. You should have a lot of fun with 100mg. As for Prozac, I'm not sure. You'll have to wait for one of the chemically minded individuals to help you out.

Really glad you took it slow and played safe. 6 is great but it can be very challenging. If you want it to get nice and trippy try a mild joint just after the peak. Or, try it with some Piracetam - I'm fairly sure that boosted the visual tripping I experienced.

 

[The King of Beans]

Ok sorry guys for multiple posting. I've made my point clear. I just wish I could roll like you guys. I guess you could say I'm jealous.

PS- I do know about MDMA, of course you get paranoid. I always think every car is a cop when im driving on it. But that doesnt mean you aren't happy. You just have so much serotonin already if you think mdma doesnt make you happy...it does. I guess if you're already infinitely happy it cant do much for you. But if you're depressed when you take it, it makes you super happy. And it makes you love everyone. I wont argue with you about this because it does that to everyone who takes it. Even evil hateful people. Being happy and paranoid certainly can go together. Maybe you just have a different definition of happy than I do. But everyone would enjoy good mdma under the right setting. If you dont agree, then you've never had real mdma before. Bottom line I wont argue about this cuz its just a waste of time. No one in this world would dislike mdma...nobody. It is the greatest feeling ever. Some people claim heroin and coke is better. But most would agree MDMA is the king of drugs, far better experience than heroin and coke could ever hope to be. I personally dont care for heroin, its too strong for me and you cant have fun on it. Coke doesnt do anything to me, and they say its cuz im ADHD or some shit. I barely get a buzz from it..and when I do its just a tired buzz.

Peace out.

 

[The King of Beans]

Can someone clean up this annoying guys quadruple posts that have been throughout these last few pages? It's really annoying to have to skip over entire pages because it's some complainer complaining about his bad batch being the real thing.

You're a complainer too bro....Complaining about multiple posts...LOL. I was just trying to get the info out there that 6-apb won't make you roll. Anyone looking to roll from it will be dissapointed unless they're super happy and rolling on life already.

 

[6apbhmm]

You're a complainer too bro....Complaining about multiple posts...LOL. I was just trying to get the info out there that 6-apb won't make you roll. Anyone looking to roll from it will be dissapointed unless they're super happy and rolling on life already.

8) Omg you are like a jammed cassette really.. you didnt roll SO 6apb wont make anyone roll, what an excellent logic.

 

[Shifty38]

8) Omg you are like a jammed cassette really.. you didnt roll SO 6apb wont make anyone roll, what an excellent logic.

Seconded, now shall we move this along ...

Anyone with experience of using 6-APB and Piracetam? If so, any stories? Were the effects of 6-APB increased etc. etc? I've tried it once and I rolled and tripped pretty hard. That is my normal experience of 6 although, in this instance, the visuals were fairly pronounced. They were not visuals which distorted reality - i.e. morphing - but placed things within my reality - geometric shapes, patterns. LSD is next on my calendar and I may well try it with a little 6 after the peak. Anyone have experience with that combination?

 

[The King of Beans]

8) Omg you are like a jammed cassette really.. you didnt roll SO 6apb wont make anyone roll, what an excellent logic.

Never said it wouldn't make anyone roll. Let me explain one more time. 6-apb is a psychedelic drug. When I say "roll" i mean the true definition. You will trip from it, and some people may think they are rolling, but those who are looking to actually roll, will be dissapointed. I was kind of skeptical before I even got it, because many people described the experience to be trippy...and I knew you cannot trip and roll from one drug. I just thought it would be like MDA where you acutally roll, but just with visuals. It was dissapointing because it did not feel like MDA at all, it feels much more like piperazines, and without smoking any weed with it, it has practically no visuals either. So, it was nothing like I expected but I admit I was skeptical because of the reports. You wont see many people say they are "Tripping" from MDMA or MDA.

Im just being logical. Both me and my girlfriend took it on 2 different occasions. Neither one of us rolled either time. And I know I got the real stuff, because of the effects. I did get eye wiggles from it, and 6-apb is the one of the only RC's which can give you eye wiggles. So I just connected all the dots. People claim they roll from pipes and all sorts of shit. Truth is, you can ONLY roll from MDMA like substances. Obviously "anaologues" dont cut it. 6-apb is nothing at all like MDA. There are some similiarties but the feeling of the drug is completely different and much more dirty. I did admit maybe higher quality batches would be better...but there are people in here who have obviously got the same batch as I do and they say they "Roll" from it. It just goes to show that what I am saying is true. Even higher quality batches are just going to give you a better and cleaner TRIP. 6-apb is a TRIP drug, its not my bad if some people cant tell the difference between a trip and a roll. A true roll will not EVER feel like a trip. That is why I said anyone looking to "Roll" will be dissapointed. Unless of course they like to trip and/or can confuse trip drugs to be like rolling (Which goes back to my serotonin theory). I stand by everything I say. I completely believe what I am saying is true, and I have the right to warn people. Obviously not everyone dislikes 6-apb. So Im not saying to avoid it altogether. I think everyone should try it and see if they like it for themselves.

But just a warning that some people (like me and my girlfriend) will be dissapointed. Especially those looking for a pure roll. Again I know I have real 6-apb because of all the factors. I get all the same effects as described, except I can totally tell the difference between tripping and rolling. Just because the 6-apb comes in waves and doesnt always seem totally psychedelic throughout the entire experience, doesnt mean you're rolling from it. I felt the effects. I can totally see how some would confuse the feeling for rolling. It is a similiar buzz, but it lacks the major empathy and serotonin effects which make rolling a truly unique experience. It just isn't the same. No way, no how can 6-apb compare to MDMA. But if you're totally happy already, go for it, because chances are, you'll think you're rolling from the 6-apb.

PS- And the reason I am putting this info out there is because I wish somebody else would of before I bought 2 grams of this crap. If someone else would of warned that this is a TRIP drug and not a TRUE rolling drug, I would of only bought 1 gram or maybe not bought it at all. But so many reports of people who think they're rolling from this, I probably would of tried it anyway out of curiousty(but definitely would of taken less of it). I'll give it one thing though-The visuals are super cool (to the point of being insane)if you smoke weed with it...but the dirty trip feeling you get throughout the entire experience (And the after effects) are totally not worth it. I hope my report and my posts save some people from possible agony from this toxic drug.

One last note- One thing that was different about the 6-apb I have was how fast it kicks in. Most people say 2 hours at least. For me and my girlfriend we felt it instantly...and it never did get any stronger (unless you smoke weed with it). It does last about 7 to 8 hours like people said but for me, the best effects came within the first 2 hours, and after that just got lame. But the first time I did it, I didnt smoke any weed until about 7 hours into it, and that was when I got the best effects. It totally made a world of difference. It was like I was practically sober before I smoked, with a massive headache. Then once I smoked, I started tripping ballz! But not in a bad way...I saw the most awesome visuals. It was nothing like acid or shrooms. It was like I was seeing movie clips flash in front of me, one after the other (All were total hallucinations) of all sorts of cool shit. Spirals, colors, sparkling waterfalls, everything you could imagine. One guy said iit best- It's like watching TV in SUPER HD...or something like that. All the colors were super clear almost like they weren't even real. The colors were so different looking that they were colors tthat don't exist. Like Super Clear Silver, and Neon Purple but SUPER SUPER NEON to the point of just being different. I was staring out the hotel window looking at the city of vegas and it looked so cool. It was all blending in like one super painting but with just so much clarity it was amazing. That lasted until I fell asleep. I had no problem sleeping on it, and either did my girlfriend.

 

[Shifty38]

I don't think the issue has anything to do with your personal conclusions, it is the manner in which you are delivering them: you have the answer. You do have the answer, for you. There are a range of reasons, which you have highlighted, that would explain your disappointing experience with 6-APB. It seems that it looking back through the Mega-Threads - all four parts (yes I've read them all) - your conclusions do not fit with the vast majority of those that have used 6-APB. There can be nothing objective about sharing experiences and information to do with drugs. Thus, your conclusions are highly subjective and personal. I'm not dismissing them, I think they're fascinating. I devour this thread because I love this substance and I want to increase my knowledge and help others roll / trip safely whilst increasing everyone's fun.

As I've noted, I've rolled the hardest in my life on a combination of 5 and 6-APB, and 6 by itself has given me some delightfully pure rolls. I say this as someone who has used pure MDMA on a number of occasions. I have a particular affinity for 6 for numerous reasons: I can both roll and trip simultaneously, I can carefully control the experience by increasing the dose on a incremental scale, it has good longevity and I can order it off the internet and get high quality material delivered straight to my door. In addition, and of all the substances I've used, 6-APB seems to be one of the most efficient users of energy. A roll strips me clean and I feel wonderfully exhausted at its conclusion - doubly so if I feel I've earned the experience.

Edit: And, I'll give you another two subjective reasons why I love 6. It has led to the most profound shift in my understanding of the world and, it provoked a chain of thought which provided me with genuine insight into a large academic project on which I'm engaged. It has a wonderful spirit. Treated with respect, 6-APB should take care of you.

Anyway, 6 and Piracetam and 6 and LSD, any thoughts?