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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

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Just try it again with lower dose, wait a few weeks to get most of it. It shouldn't feel dirty and trip-like at all, doesn't sound like it was legit.

However I remember one of my friends had a terrible experience with it, after just 100mg he was INCREDIBLY sweaty, had to be almost naked, his eyes were just black circles, never saw such huge pupils. But still despite feeling bad physically he said mentally it was like a strong E and I have my suspicion that he was doing way too much amphetamines the whole week before that. That's obviously stupid, before trying a new drug it's always a good idea to be clean few days before.
 
Anyone believe there is cross tolerance between 4-fa and 6-APB? 4-FA should release some serotonin so there might be a connection(?)
 
I've heard legit 6-apb accounts for more than enough stimulation and serotonin release so if I were you I would go low on the 4-FA cuz your most likely gonna feel cracked out on the comedown. So you've tried the 6 and it was lacking something? If thats the case maybe 4-FA could help out. For me I would try the 5 and 6 combo before anything else. Next probably 4-FA but def not at a very high dose. ;)
 
the king of beans - Yeah i've heard that the brown stuff from like 2 years ago was dank (didnt know they still had the stuff circulating) so maybe the people with this brown batch have very low expectations. The only reason the RC scene is compelling to me is because of chems like these. I just hope my experience is not like yours, if it is then audios RC scene and back to the 'real' stuff :)
 
Imo 6apb >> 4-fa because I have little, if any comedown from 6-apb. Probably because its not so stimulating and I find it more empathic.
 
Then obviously what you took was not 6-APB. Can't really go on your one experience against the plethora of amazing experiences from everyone else. (Those who get from knowingly legit sources that is).

Hmm...-snip-. I've looked at their feedback and everyone says it's real quality. So I think it was real. Very well could of been several factors contributing to the bad experience.

#1- Was starting to feel pretty good (After the trippy come up) after putting on some music..then IPOD died, and so I went downstairs to play slot machines. I was there for over 4 hours on one machine! It seemed like only 30 mins! So this could of killed the experience. Ever since the music shut off, I never felt good again.

#2- The diarhea and dirty feeling kinda killed it. I think the alcohol I drank with it obviously made it worse as well.

#3- First time ever doing it so I didnt know what exactly to expect. First time I ever ROLLED from MDMA, I barely felt it. Second time I had the same pills, same batch and rolled balls. Just like pot, some people dont get high the first time. Maybe this could explain why I also didnt roll good from the 6-apb? Hope so cuz Im going to try it again, next time in a better setting and will report back. Just scared to try it anytime soon as Im still weak and tired and having stomach problems as we speak.

#4- I may have taken WAY too much. Now thinking back I could of easily taken 250 mg's since I eyeballed it. Because I really did trip balls. No rolling feelings at all. This could explain why it was so trippy, because of the high dose and my first time. Also I am suspeptible to trip drugs. I never "Tripped" from MDA as I said I always felt like I was rolling balls, just with more visuals. But if I take even one shroom I will trip pretty hard. This is due from my past experiences with abusing psychedelics. I dont care to do them anymore. Ive had far more than enough!

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EDIT from above- I did in fact feel good about 7 hours into the xperience...but ONLY after I smoked some pot. Which I am not a pot smoker anymore. I used to be heavy into it and then quit last year. The reason I had to smoke on the 6-apb is because I had a terrible headache and wanted to cure it. Turns out the pot helped the headache and made me trip even harder (And better) with way more visuals, even though it was 7 hours into it. I peaked like this for about anotherr 2 hours then feel asleep. My girlfriend fell asleep about 7 hours into the experience before I smoked the pot. She said overall she didnt get much out of it. So that also makes me wonder, if we DID have a high dose, why didnt she really feel anything? I chewed a little piece up in my mouth (A little brown rock) which tasted SO Strong and I felt it instantly after that. This could be why I talso tripped harder. I know it sounds like no big deal but I think it brought it on harder and faster for me. I also took a bit more than she did...

PS- It could of been mxiing alcohol with the 6-apb that gave me the headache. Does anyone else get headaches from 6-apb alone? I am not planning to drink beer with it next time.
 
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You cannot say that, and that particular vendor is not well reputed for particularly pure substances. I wouldn't count on you having good quality 6apb and would suggest trying elsewhere. It is notoriously difficult to find even now (although if you are well connected, it's not so much of an issue).
 
Hmm...Got it from a site with BUY and JWH in their name. (Dont know if I can say that?) I've heard they are legit. I've looked at their feedback and everyone says it's real quality. So I think it was real. Very well could of been several factors contributing to the bad experience.

#1- Was starting to feel pretty good (After the trippy come up) after putting on some music..then IPOD died, and so I went downstairs to play slot machines. I was there for over 4 hours on one machine! It seemed like only 30 mins! So this could of killed the experience. Ever since the music shut off, I never felt good again.

#2- The diarhea and dirty feeling kinda killed it. I think the alcohol I drank with it obviously made it worse as well.

#3- First time ever doing it so I didnt know what exactly to expect. First time I ever ROLLED from MDMA, I barely felt it. Second time I had the same pills, same batch and rolled balls. Just like pot, some people dont get high the first time. Maybe this could explain why I also didnt roll good from the 6-apb? Hope so cuz Im going to try it again, next time in a better setting and will report back. Just scared to try it anytime soon as Im still weak and tired and having stomach problems as we speak.

#4- I may have taken WAY too much. Now thinking back I could of easily taken 250 mg's since I eyeballed it. Because I really did trip balls. No rolling feelings at all. This could explain why it was so trippy, because of the high dose and my first time. Also I am suspeptible to trip drugs. I never "Tripped" from MDA as I said I always felt like I was rolling balls, just with more visuals. But if I take even one shroom I will trip pretty hard. This is due from my past experiences with abusing psychedelics. I dont care to do them anymore. Ive had far more than enough!

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Yeah they are known to have bad quality 6-APB haha. Like not good at all.
 
Hello all. I recently acquired 200mg of 6apb powder which was a yellowish color. I divided the powder in half and put what I believed to be 100mg into 2 capsules as that was what I had read on multiple forums was the best dose. About 20 minutes after ingesting one of the pills I started violently throwing up and tripping very hard. After the first hour or so I did not vomit again but the nausea and visuals were still going strong. At no point throughout the trip did I feel anything like I had on MDMA and had a pretty bad experience overall. My question is do you guys believe what I got is actual 6apb or some other unknown substance? Thanks for any advice

Also it was purchased from a vendor I have used before and has been reliable in the past with good quality substances.
 
6-APB has been one of the substances where a lot of other stuff has been sold in its name (like ecstasy). This is why it is important to do allergy tests (here also meaning low dose test for improper compounds).

A basic allergy test procedure is:

1) Take approximately 0.5 mg of substance (by volumetric dosing - or as a less safe alternative: the SMALLEST speck of powder you can find) and ingest it, preferably sublingually (i.e. keeping under your tongue for 15-20 minutes), as this will also show whether you have received a highly potent but not orally active compound (like the NBOMe-class). Alternatively, but less safe, look up ALL the compounds a vendor may be selling and find out the dose ranges for each, and use the lowest one as a starting point. If you detect ANYTHING at an allergy dose level, DO NOT proceed to the next step.

2) If you don't detect any activity or unusual symptoms (i.e. rashes, reddening of skin, trouble breathing properly), then go on to about 25% of an active dose (25-30 mg in the case of 6-APB) in order to see whether the compound shows strong activity at this point - which it shouldn't, but there might still be another chemical in it, such as a 2C-X (doses between 8 and 50 mg depending on which one it is). If you detect significant activity (i.e. a "full" trip") at this level, do NOT continue to the next step. Be advised that 25% of an active dose of a psychedelic, and especially an entactogen (MDMA, 6-APB, MDAI) will still produce non-insignificant tolerance and you should wait a few days in the case of psychedelics and a few weeks in the case of entactogens before proceeding to step (3). This step is generally useful, incase you receive 2C-P instead of 2C-D, or MDPV instead of methylone. Vendors sometimes mislabel products and this has led to several deaths and hospitalizations; be safe!

3) In case step (2) went okay (i.e. only mild effects), you can proceed to a normal dose.

Bonus tips:

When doing step (1), look at ALL the vendor's compounds, and be aware of the fact that it is a possibility that you may end up intoxicated for as long as the duration of their most powerful substance - in some cases over 24 hours of tripping (DOx) or 10-15 hours of being stimulated (2-DPMP). I.e., don't do allergy tests the day before you have do something important - just in case :)

More detailed info on volumetric dosing here: Safer Research Chemical User's Guide. Remember: it is IMPERATIVE that you weigh the initial amount before dissolving it into a liquid - vendors have regularly been known to be generous when sending out chemicals.

I might have forgotten a single point or two - someone else will hopefully be able to fill in.
 
Thanks a lot for the info. Forgot to add I did do a small bump sublingually as a test and nothing happened. I think I simply had a mild overdose or the fact that I did it on an empty stomach and hadn't eaten anything. I will try half of the other pill next time and see where that takes me. Unfortunately at the time I do not have a scale to accurately weigh the substance. I also had no tolerance to anything but weed
 
Have had a few experiences with 6-APB and none of them have come close to the first time I took it. I would expect that using it more than once in a month plus using other stimulants ( 4-FA and 4-FMA in my case) diminishes the experience. Me and a mate also used 6-APB with 4-HO-MET ( I think I snorted close to maybe 40-60mg, smoked a little weed etc) and had a very nice time during the trip but once I started coming down I was in very very intense pain for what felt like hours. My friend who does not have a pain problem also appeared to be in quite some discomfort.
Highest dosage I have consumed is 3 'benzo fury' pills and a little 4-FA and that was a very intense and euphoric experience. The comedown was noticably worse than if I had consumed both substances alone ( to be expected really) but I believe I experienced more gain then pain.
 
Thanks a lot for the info. Forgot to add I did do a small bump sublingually as a test and nothing happened. I think I simply had a mild overdose or the fact that I did it on an empty stomach and hadn't eaten anything. I will try half of the other pill next time and see where that takes me. Unfortunately at the time I do not have a scale to accurately weigh the substance. I also had no tolerance to anything but weed

Spraynard - I felt obligated to log in and tell you that whatever yellow tinted chemical you have that is making you barf probably isn't 6-apb, fuck whatever chemical that is man. I would just throw it away. Just my two cents. Never heard of yellow 6-apb, it's supposed to be tan right now man.

Also - King of Beans I think has legit 6-apb he just doesn't like it very much / it doesn't make him feel what he thinks a roll feels like. That's understandable, not everyone's gonna like it or even think it's like mda/mdma or 'rolling'.

Also, lulzkiller - I like your description of how to allergy test and step up from an allergy test to a full dose by successive tastings. That's what I did in my 6-apb trip report and that's always what I've done since the damn bromo dragonfly poisonings.
 
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Never felt too bad cardiac wise for me, but it definitely can be over stimulating in your head. Most I took was 350mg, in 3 more or less equal doses over 18 hours and I was way too stimulated. But my heart rate never exceeded 100 on this which I find great (my normal resting is 55-60). It's best to redose only once in night or not at all and then its slightly stimulating.
 
Shifty38- Do you mean you went back and forth between rolling and tripping? Because from my past experiences, it's not possible to roll and trip at the same time. I've trolled many times (Candy, hippy, and other flipping) from many different combos...but one always overpowers the other. I've done Acid and MDA, which to me the acid overpowered the MDA. I've done shrooms and MDMA which it depends on which order you do it in, as to what overpowers the other. I've done MDMA and Foxy, which the MDMA overpowered the foxy because I took far more MDMA than I did foxy. So it all depends but my point is, you cant possibly feel like you're rolling AND tripping at the same time...because both feelings are so far different to each other. Tripping can be fun but the body buzz and euphoria with rolling is far more amazing than with tripping. Also you cannot have a bad roll (At least I haven't unless I was sitting in the cold with no music) But you CAN have a bad trip. So, to feel both of these feelings at once is simply impossible for me. So thats why Im asking if you went back and forth between the two feelings? Still sounds kinda strange to go back and forth but I can't see feeling both at once being possible.

MLLX- I am positive it was not a piperazine for several reasons. First, I've done pipes many many times and never seen any kind of visuals like I got with the 6-apb. Also the site I got from has been verified to have real stuff, and the smell and color of it gave it away that it was in fact real. Also on top of that, my experience sounds like many others...just WITHOUT the rolling feeling. You cant compare tripping to rolling. They are two totally different experiences. Most would agree rolling feels a million times better. I've done MDA before, I never felt like I was tripping from it. I just felt like I was rolling with a lot of crazy visuals. So my definition of tripping is the mind part. I dont consider seeing visuals to be tripping. Just to clarify. And that is because I've seen awesome things on MDMA alone and of course MDMA doesn't make you trip. The diarhea I got from this 6-apb is off the charts. Never in my life have I ever had it this bad, even from dirty ass pipes. I actually shit my pants while writing this post and had to take a break to go to the bathroom again. I've went about 50x in the past 36 hours or so (No joke, Im pretty dehydrated, taking a lot of supplements to keep me going or I'd be too weak to even type this post)

I just think 6-apb is a dirty ass drug. You can feel the dirtyness when you're on it. Maybe though I just did way too much. That's what Im trying to figure out. I had no choice but to eyeball it cuz I have no scale. Has anyone else gotten this dirty feeling from 6-apb? My girl had to also take off work today cuz she felt weak and tired. And it's been 2 days since we did this stuff. Again Im positive it was a legit batch. But Im trying to figure out if we just did way too much or what...because I do want to try it again...I think with music this time it will help the experience maybe turn into more of a rolling type feel.

Yep, rolling and tripping together. I find with 6-APB, I can turn my attention to one or the other which makes the one I focus on the more dominant. After peaking, I tend to find the trippiness remains for much longer than the other aspects - with my last experience, I was still able to trip (if I concentrated) 24 hours after dropping (150 of 6APB, 100 of 5APB).
 
I guess everyone is different, either that or I have bad quality. I never saw any complaints about the site, but I tried it again today. This time with Music, better setting, etc. I also took far less than the first time. It started out feeling good like a weak roll...so I took a bit more (not much at all) and then about an hour later I started getting the lame dirty trip feeling again. Feels just like a piperazine. Didnt even want to listen to music anymore. Everything was so lame. The only time I had fun on this was when I smoked weed with it. I dont think it's the type of thing meant to do by itself. I probably wont be doing it again. Very dissapointed. It is nothing at all like a roll...unless you're talking about a bunk piperazine. I wonder if I had not taken more today if I would of kept that weak roll feeling (Which felt far better than this dirty trip feeling) instead of turning into a trip? I may try one last time, this time with only one very small dose and see how it is. I felt so lame today I actually took a roxy with it and now I feel a little better, but can still feel the trip. My body is really dirty feeling...anyone else get this? As to speeding up heart rate, Nah not much, it is a stimulating feeling at first but then it's hard to even keep your eyes open on this shit. I must have bad quality because I dont see how ANYONE could enjoy this stuff (Unless they like to trip on dirty shit) as much as I wanted to enjoy it, (And even expected to with the new setting) It is just impossible. Doesnt feel anything like MDA (Which I love) The first time I did it was actually better than this and that was lame too until I smoked. Lol my opinion on this drug (or batch) is that it is one nasty ass drug. But hey at least you dont wig out on it...but it's definitley not good on your body...unless your goal is to kill massive parasites. lol (Which pipes also do that but this is even more intense with insane diarhea for days after..hopefully the roxy will prevent that this time)

ps- I know for certain what I have is NOT a piperazine, but it feels identical except for the fact that you get awesome visuals with 6-apb when you add weed to the experience. That is the only thing that makes this better than a pipe. Anyone else tried JWH site and found it to be dirty like this? I think I'll stick to 4-FA from now on. Still cant replace MDMA but it's the closest thing I've tried. I havent done MDMA in about a year, as I cant get it anymore.
 
I'm pretty much guaranteeing after reading the source you posted that you are not trying high quality 6-apb. Be stubborn about it all you want, it's your loss, not mine.
 
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