The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

[tsg28]

Hey all 6-APBers, this is my first post on bluelight, but I decided it'd be a good thing to post about this substance because it's so new and under-researched.

I have recently acquired 1 gram of tan colored 6-APB powder from what I have deemed to be a reputable vendor. My girlfriend and I plan on taking our first dosages in about two and a half weeks' time. We believe a good "test run" for this substance would be 100mg initial doses via capsule and with the option of 50 additional mg doses after 2 hours. Can anyone verify this dosage? Would two hours be a long enough amount to determine if 100mg is enough?

Our previous stim experience has been only Methylone, which we enjoyed multiple times. We have other experience with 4-Aco-DMT, 2-Ci, Salvia, and other assorted (but no other real stims other than the M1.) Would it be a good assumption to go into the 6-APB experience expecting a lengthier, more psychedelic Methylone roll? Can anyone else compare the two?

All in all, we're both excited, if not a bit nervous because of the fact that the compound is so new. Any suggestions for an effective first taste?
I will post a trip report after we end up taking it, but like I said, it's going to be a little while; about two and a half weeks for an optimal weekend.

TL;DR: Gonna try 6-APB soon, thoughts?

 

[Twigs]

We believe a good "test run" for this substance would be 100mg initial doses via capsule and with the option of 50 additional mg doses after 2 hours. Can anyone verify this dosage? Would two hours be a long enough amount to determine if 100mg is enough?

Would it be a good assumption to go into the 6-APB experience expecting a lengthier, more psychedelic Methylone roll?

In my opinion you are spot on. 100 mg initial with an optional 50 mg booster after 2 hours is what I would recommend as a start, but you might want to do a allergy test first.

I also agree with your assumption about 6-APB compared to methylone. That's pretty much how it feels to me.

 

[Sepher]

^ Agreed on dosing. Should be plenty enough for a first time, but not too over the top on the stimulation, and two hours is about bang on for the first dose to peak for most people. Guess there are some similarities to Methylone, but 6-APB's a lot cleaner and smoother IMO. Methylone for me was a bit more stimulating, had a harsher edge and a really rough crash when I tried it. 6-APB's really quite gentle in comparison, even subtle.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I don't think redosing the 50mg would be a good idea, my experiment with redosing lead to a nasty comedown, and a very very slightly longer peak (despite the redose being almost as big as the initial dose) but not much else. I think it'd be better to take the 150mg in one go, or just go for the middle ground with 125mg and don't worry about redosing

 

[Limitbreaker]

Yeah, assuming I get no hard comedowns from 6-APB whatsoever, but if I redose I get that not-so-funny stimulant psychosis stuff, what would you guys recommend if the party lengthens? On the typical comedown off 6-APB, I don't feel bad, but rather a little "worn out" - by no means sad. Just silent and unwillingful. Couple of beers could work, but I don't like the idea. Marijuana works fine?

 

[PsychedelicPeptide]

I'm not a vendor, lol,

Great, you just put in a lot of really positive details, eerily too many in my opinion. There have been a few vendor posts over the years though, so I am always skeptical at a first post talking up a compound to a very high degree. I haven't had an open-eye visual once from 6APB, and I have used a lot. I do agree it is a good substance though.

Probably just a fluke, but I thought it was interesting because he's definitely not one to play up the effects of drugs. He had the same unimpressive reaction as I did to the higher dose, but the second lower dose seemed overwhelmingly euphoric.

Have you considered that stomach contents can effect the absorption of a drug like 6APB? I have never had problems with 6APB personally, but only because I have learned my lesson with MDMA taken orally shortly after a meal. The effect of oral MDMA can be blocked pretty much entirely if you have eaten enough and time it right. I don't see why 6APB would be much different, it is almost the exact same drug.

 

[Limitbreaker]

I haven't had an open-eye visual once from 6APB, and I have used a lot.

Oh, thanks a lot mate! That reminded me of a measure I wanted to discuss. But before, what do you (PP) consider a visual?

And the matter is, what kind of visuals do you get on 6-APB? CEVs, OEVs, visual distortions or nodding-kind dream-visions?

I never cared for CEVs on this substance, due to always being with other people while on 6-APB, but I remember they were quite colourful and really "calm". Rather patterns than fractals. For OEVs, I had faces melting & changing when on higher dose (very annoying to me - I almost got into trouble because I mistaken some guy with my friend, the guy looked exactly the same to me but when I asked somebody else to check that he said my friend and that guy don't look alike at all), good-looking blurring of whole vision, and sometimes lights, beams and flashes coming out of nowhere. I really recommend taking this substance in an environment where there's a lot of light, flashes etc. some club perhaps. That lighting stuff is really, really enhanced on 6-APB.

Guaranteed, lol.

but the second lower dose seemed overwhelmingly euphoric.

About that... Huh... As I previously stated in B&D 3, my 125mg dose didn't kick in for almost 3 hours, but when I consumed another 125mg, I had full blown effects in 1 minute after ingestion.

...the hell?

 

[Jesusgreen]

Yeah, assuming I get no hard comedowns from 6-APB whatsoever, but if I redose I get that not-so-funny stimulant psychosis stuff, what would you guys recommend if the party lengthens? On the typical comedown off 6-APB, I don't feel bad, but rather a little "worn out" - by no means sad. Just silent and unwillingful. Couple of beers could work, but I don't like the idea. Marijuana works fine?

^ That's true, but once you do it, you get the hellish comedown, and it can leave quite a lasting impact, feeling like you want to cry all of a sudden even a week or more after the experience etc. If you keep your doses good and avoid redosing you'll be fine, but I think with this substance you really have to be prepared for a bit of a rough ride if you do redose.

I tried beers and weed to help the comedown, neither helped at all and I didn't even really get my usual high from either, just made me feel worse.

I much preferred my single 150mg dose to 150mg + 100mg redose.

 

[b3ast1e]

My only experience with 6-apb up until just recently, was extremely negative. I got some pellets from a very well known internet vendor and smartshop operator in the UK a few months ago - I won't name them but I really hope karma takes a big chunk out of their sorry asses.

It came in the usual ridiculously branded "BENZO FURY" firework packaging. I took one pellet and had an experience that was like one of those E caps packed out with some dirty speed I'm sure we've all been ripped off with at least once in our lives out of desperation. Now, given all the rave reviews from people who I know not to be shills and whom I respect, either my biochemistry and 6-apb's vaunted qualities weren't compatible, or I'd been sold duds despite them looking like the real deal according to other people's account. Had that been the last of it, I'd have chalked it up to experience and moved on. I wish. Man, I've had some spectacular come downs in my time, but whatever that shit was, it left me with a plethora of vile symptoms, the least of which was rampant circulatory problems, the mother of all heart palpatations, a body sheathed in cold running sweat, sciatica-like fried nerves and pulses in virtually every muscle group, freezing cold extremities, and a deep pall of depression the like of which I've not even experienced during my class A obsessed heyday back in the 90s. Just an all round feeling of having been really comprehensively poisoned. It took me nearly a week to shake that off and was enough to keep me away from any other chemicals for months.

The vendor I now use though, he's a diamond in the rough as far as the RC world goes. He sent me a sample tab in my last order and it's only the fact that I rate the quality of his stuff that stopped me throwing it away. And I'm glad I didn't. WOW!

Loved it, very potent, very wobbly, masses of sense candy and just an all round sparkly, horny as fuck Willy Wonka experience for mind and body. Now I see what you lot were on about. And yes, it lives up to it. And better yet, the come down was absolutely nothing to write home about at all.

So yeah, I'd rather do some MDMA for sure, but I'd certainly give this a whirl again if I was of a mind to. A very viable and fun way of getting one's rocks off.

 

[tsg28]

I don't think redosing the 50mg would be a good idea, my experiment with redosing lead to a nasty comedown, and a very very slightly longer peak (despite the redose being almost as big as the initial dose) but not much else. I think it'd be better to take the 150mg in one go, or just go for the middle ground with 125mg and don't worry about redosing

Alright, I'll have to keep this in mind, although we're used to the nasty comedown of methylone so hopefully we'll be prepared either way. Personally I'd be fine dropping the 150 right away but the GF might be a little more cautious. Would you all consider 150 mg a "strong" first dosage? It seems the reported first time dosages are all over the place on this, from under 100 to redosing up to 400+ in one go. I just want to make sure we have a good experience but don't overdo it.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I found 150mg to be "strong" euphoria but never overwhelming, I would have been fine in a social setting or out in public, aside from the gurning and massive pupils of course. That said I think 100-125mg would be the best place to start for a first time though, and of course it's worth taking her weight and any existing tolerances into account.

 

[highhooked]

Yea psychedelicPeptide is right you definitely have to take this stuff on an empty stomach. Dosing on an empty stomach results in a quick come up and INSANE euphoria. I have only done it twice at 150mg and the time i took it in the morning with nothing in my stomach it blew my last experience miles out of the water. The come up was so fast it actually made me pretty anxious.

 

[PsychedelicPeptide]

what do you (PP) consider a visual?

Well, I guess it is a bit tricky to define exactly but color enhancement isn't really what people call a visual. A visual is like if you are looking at a poster on your wall, and whatever is in the poster starts moving. That's a visual. Or if, for example, you take a hit of DMT and everything turns purple or to fractals... that's a visual.

 

[tsg28]

I found 150mg to be "strong" euphoria but never overwhelming, I would have been fine in a social setting or out in public, aside from the gurning and massive pupils of course. That said I think 100-125mg would be the best place to start for a first time though, and of course it's worth taking her weight and any existing tolerances into account.

Sounds good. We'll be in a private setting, so we won't have to worry about the pupils and such, but it's good to know you could feasibly swing 6-APB in public (at a rave or whatever.)

Yea psychedelicPeptide is right you definitely have to take this stuff on an empty stomach. Dosing on an empty stomach results in a quick come up and INSANE euphoria. I have only done it twice at 150mg and the time i took it in the morning with nothing in my stomach it blew my last experience miles out of the water. The come up was so fast it actually made me pretty anxious.

How fast was your come up? It seems the average time for this substance is a couple hours, so that's what I've come to expect, but was yours any quicker than that? We do plan on dosing on empty stomachs, as we usually do before taking anything.

I really recommend taking this substance in an environment where there's a lot of light, flashes etc. some club perhaps. That lighting stuff is really, really enhanced on 6-APB.

Got glowsticks, a blacklight, and a strobe set up for the first dose

I'm pretty excited for the visual aspect of this; there was really nothing interesting visually going on with Methylone. Except for maybe a heightened appreciation of normally visually cool things from time to time. What amount of OEVs/CEVs/visual enhancement would you guys say is present at 100-150?

 

[Limitbreaker]

I'm back there with a question. How's p.r.? I'm actually willing to do that with 5-APB but these are so similar and I'll get a quicker answer here. Say I have 100mg of the substance, how would p.r. compare to oral? I guess it would come up faster, but how much faster? And would the trip last longer or not?

 

[highhooked]

I wasnt actually keeping track but id say def under an hour. But once i actually started to feel the effects the come up didnt take long at all like 10min maybe...i hope that makes sense. Thats probably what added to the anxiety because just like yourself i have always read that the comeup took forever and was a gradual climb so when i was experiencing all of these effects so suddenly i thought i may have misdosed or something because it was powerful.

Edit: My post was towards tsg28.

 

[Albion]

I'm back there with a question. How's p.r.? I'm actually willing to do that with 5-APB but these are so similar and I'll get a quicker answer here. Say I have 100mg of the substance, how would p.r. compare to oral? I guess it would come up faster, but how much faster? And would the trip last longer or not?

What does p.r stand for? Public relations is all that springs to mind.

 

[Limitbreaker]

Per rectum

Public relations

I lol'd

 

[IamMe90]

It's pretty great plugged but hard to dissolve in water. Maybe it's more soluble in EtOh?

 

[Jakeperson]

Don't plug EtOh though! I found 5-APB didn't dissolve well but it still worked wonderfully plugged. For an "out hole" it's pretty amazing at absorbing things. Even some freebases will work.