The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

[33Hz]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I've managed to extract from the recent shitstorm.

Also, how many people tried the blue ones? Just the one bloke, was it?

 

[Special_Monster]

I'm just sticking in this thread because all the lol trolls have got out, best time for it after this dick twist.


IT IS LIKE WATCHMEN!

"I GOT SOLD FAKE SHIT"
"Sombody knows...SOMBODY KNOWS

SOrry for all crap talk, First time on 2C-I tonight and it's sent me loopy, stronger than I thought it would be.

 

[I NUK3D U]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I've managed to extract from the recent shitstorm.

NSFW:

Also, how many people tried the blue ones? Just the one bloke, was it?

winner

 

[iom]

The red caps -- a possible explaination?

It's sad to see so much hostility over such a promising substance. It looks like everyone who has contributed meaningful data in the last 24 hours has been attacked and accused of fraud by the mob that continues to grow angrier. Alas, I feel it's time for me to break my silence.

I'm often inclined to suspect ignorance before maliciousness as the explanation when things go wrong. That a few people have reported positively on their experiences with the red capsules while others have reported total failures leads me to postulate that the persons are actually being truthful. How could this be?

---

Suppose some fool recently received their multi-kilo shipment of freshly synthed 6-APB and eagerly set off to fill a huge backlog of pre-orders. Having quickly realized that the process of weighing and filling capsules one-at-a-time is very tedious, this fool had the "seemingly clever" idea to expedite his/her work by diluting the drug with sufficient filler (like powdered sugar? -- tastes sweet; sputters and smokes under reaction to H2SO4) so that the capsules could simply be filled to the brim yielding average doses of about 100 mg.

Sadly, this is a foolish fool because, as has been mentioned, powders cannot be mixed reliably! Let me furthermore point out the common yet paradoxical observation (by those with industrial/research experience in dry powder chemical operations) that the more powders are stirred, the more heterogeneous mixtures will tend to separate!

Said fool, who even went through the trouble of sampling the product him/herself beforehand, shipped the products with the confidence that his/her customers would be very satisfied. Well, guess what? Most of the first few capsules that were shipped contained only SUGAR! Bummer. A few did contain 6-APB in doses fairly close to the mean, and those customers that received them are/will be very happy! Unfortunately, a few customers might end up being especially lucky and receive ~400mg of 6-APB in capsules purported to contain only 100mg of 6-APB! Totally awesome, NOT! Lest someone accidentally discovers the lethal dose of 6-APB, I strongly advise anyone else who intends to proceed with extreme caution! If said fool happens to be lurking on this forum and is aware of having made such a hazardous mistake, I would implore him/her to privately contact his/her customers immediately to warn them of their potential fate!

---

Now, of course I have no more of a clue than anyone else does as to what these capsules contain, but I believe there are perfectly plausible reasons to believe that most all of those involved here acted in good faith and with perhaps greater naivety. Other possible explanations? Maybe it's 6-APDB. Could 6-APDB be inactive? Could its activity be inconsistent between subjects? Maybe it is a big rip-off after all!

If there's one thing that especially encourages the would-be scammers out there, it's that there is a Bluelight thread for this product numbering over 1500 posts mostly filled with highly-charged emotional bickering, obsession, and downright desperation over this new substance. This evidence stands as a practical guarantee of sweet rewards for anyone low enough to peddle garbage under this beloved brand name.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ oh please.

Don't tell me, everyone should now re-order because the fool will get it right next time???

 

[deano88]

^ oh please.

Don't tell me, everyone should now re-order because the fool will get it right next time???

Haga it seems nobody can say anything now without being accused of being a shill/vendor or whatever! I'm getting a headache trying to keep up with this thread. I should be recieving my caps today and guesse what? There not red or blue they are transparent and by saturday i'll know for sure if its the real deal or not and i'm talking nobody elses word for it until I tried it myself. Peace

 

[Scoobysnacks]

In a nutshell a release of dubious 6-apb came out today

People were politely warned to check the contents and not to go crazy

act-now-think-later-crowd ignored advice and subsequently a lot of toys have been thrown from a number of prams as the chemical failed to deliver

Thus ensued a finger pointing excercise that the more intelligent amoungst us are not infact looking out for the welfare of fellow posters but are in fact part of a large conspriracy which ties Bluelight in with the sale of official 6-apb

You couldn't make it up

o ya could *snip*

and why did it fail??, 1 bad trip report, we will know by sunday if it truly failed along with the other caps

 

[Scoobysnacks]

winner

yeh just the one

 

[Mona Lisa]

Well I just got totally confused and went back through everything tonight. What I though I was expecting to be blue is actually clear from what I can tell so actually Im expecting clear caps. It was the whole tranlucent / clear thing that fucked things up. I think I had a lot to do with the whole confusion, sorry. Noticed that no one has come back claiming to have or be expecting blue ones on here tonight and jmax is actually the only person to have blue ones other than the official samples (please correct me if im wrong). I hope Im wrong because this has cost me money but I suspect that all the legit posters in this thread have been well and truly dry-bummed tonight

I'm very disappointed too but took a calculated risk so have to be philosophical. I'll give it one more shot when the official stuff becomes available but I'd imagine it will sell out very quickly. At least I've tried...win some, lose some.

 

[Mullered]

I'm very disappointed too but took a calculated risk so have to be philosophical. I'll give it one more shot when the official stuff becomes available but I'd imagine it will sell out very quickly. At least I've tried...win some, lose some.

In many ways it's no different to a laod of people who have brought dud pills of a dealer in a club (or wherever), just usually there wouldnt be a forum discussion about it. Im too impatient for my own good sometimes and rather than waiting, I take a risk and jump right in. Like you say, you win some, you loses some Mona. I think a few of us lost last night. It's no conspiracy but I bet the 'big 5' are rubbing their hands togethor this morning

 

[enthios2000]

This thread has become as dark as dark can be...

I came on this place to get information on what seemed to be a great new drug - lets face it what better drug could compare it to than E/MDxx to get people hooked. I am one of those people that has been hooked from the beginning. Like many here I guess I just wanted a substance to remind me of all the great times I had as a raver. Sorry to tell you all I beleive we have all been well and truly FUCKED OVER by everyone involved with this new drug, if it even exists. I am sure that people here at Bluelight are involved, and have been from the beginning. What better way to promote a scam for a new drug than through the top-rated drug forum on the net.

CLEVER BASTARDS.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Agree completely, everyone is being scammed, who is involved with who is another question - but I am getting suspicious about everyone (except those who have been scammed)!

 

[enthios2000]

In many ways it's no different to a laod of people who have brought dud pills of a dealer in a club (or wherever), just usually there wouldnt be a forum discussion about it. Im too impatient for my own good sometimes and rather than waiting, I take a risk and jump right in. Like you say, you win some, you loses some Mona. I think a few of us lost last night. It's no conspiracy but I bet the 'big 5' are rubbing their hands togethor this morning

The way that this everlasting delay has continued, the scammers, the hype -- I am now wondering about the authenticity of the claims for the product of the "official 5"! I have a feeling I will be looking back ina few months time, saying, "I should have seen that one coming"!

 

[enthios2000]

I'm very disappointed too but took a calculated risk so have to be philosophical. I'll give it one more shot when the official stuff becomes available but I'd imagine it will sell out very quickly. At least I've tried...win some, lose some.

I am sure the official stuff will sell very quickly - but will it work???? - or is it part of the bigger scam !!!!!

 

[enthios2000]

It's sad to see so much hostility over such a promising substance. It looks like everyone who has contributed meaningful data in the last 24 hours has been attacked and accused of fraud by the mob that continues to grow angrier. Alas, I feel it's time for me to break my silence.

I'm often inclined to suspect ignorance before maliciousness as the explanation when things go wrong. That a few people have reported positively on their experiences with the red capsules while others have reported total failures leads me to postulate that the persons are actually being truthful. How could this be?

---

Suppose some fool recently received their multi-kilo shipment of freshly synthed 6-APB and eagerly set off to fill a huge backlog of pre-orders. Having quickly realized that the process of weighing and filling capsules one-at-a-time is very tedious, this fool had the "seemingly clever" idea to expedite his/her work by diluting the drug with sufficient filler (like powdered sugar? -- tastes sweet; sputters and smokes under reaction to H2SO4) so that the capsules could simply be filled to the brim yielding average doses of about 100 mg.

Sadly, this is a foolish fool because, as has been mentioned, powders cannot be mixed reliably! Let me furthermore point out the common yet paradoxical observation (by those with industrial/research experience in dry powder chemical operations) that the more powders are stirred, the more heterogeneous mixtures will tend to separate!

Said fool, who even went through the trouble of sampling the product him/herself beforehand, shipped the products with the confidence that his/her customers would be very satisfied. Well, guess what? Most of the first few capsules that were shipped contained only SUGAR! Bummer. A few did contain 6-APB in doses fairly close to the mean, and those customers that received them are/will be very happy! Unfortunately, a few customers might end up being especially lucky and receive ~400mg of 6-APB in capsules purported to contain only 100mg of 6-APB! Totally awesome, NOT! Lest someone accidentally discovers the lethal dose of 6-APB, I strongly advise anyone else who intends to proceed with extreme caution! If said fool happens to be lurking on this forum and is aware of having made such a hazardous mistake, I would implore him/her to privately contact his/her customers immediately to warn them of their potential fate!

---

Now, of course I have no more of a clue than anyone else does as to what these capsules contain, but I believe there are perfectly plausible reasons to believe that most all of those involved here acted in good faith and with perhaps greater naivety. Other possible explanations? Maybe it's 6-APDB. Could 6-APDB be inactive? Could its activity be inconsistent between subjects? Maybe it is a big rip-off after all!

If there's one thing that especially encourages the would-be scammers out there, it's that there is a Bluelight thread for this product numbering over 1500 posts mostly filled with highly-charged emotional bickering, obsession, and downright desperation over this new substance. This evidence stands as a practical guarantee of sweet rewards for anyone low enough to peddle garbage under this beloved brand name.

Possible Explanation - BAD QUALITY CONTROL if it is true - if not, its a SCAM !

 

[enthios2000]

^ oh please.

Don't tell me, everyone should now re-order because the fool will get it right next time???

If the supplier made a genuine mistake - they will replace with a new batch free of charge! That is customer service, and they will have customers for life - everyone knows that. If they just take the money, then they intended to scam right from the start!

 

[infinity2k7]

It's already legitimately for sale elsewhere. If people weren't so quick to jump on the first dodgy site they find with a google search, selling it in weird unnecessary forms such as capsules, then they would not get ripped off.

 

[Mullered]

I am sure the official stuff will sell very quickly - but will it work???? - or is it part of the bigger scam !!!!!

I can confirm that the samples from the official vendors are genuine at least. I sit in both camps here as I have tried and are expecting official samples but am also in possession of these red ones and have some clear (possibly blue) ones on the way. I think the main vendors are partly to blame for this situation for hyping BenzoFury so much but then not being able to produce the goods in time, but I have no doubt their product will be the real deal

 

[Scoobysnacks]

what basis are we concluding its inactive, read more positive reports than bad ones, of the 4 red cap testers , 2 were happy, we got a bad report off one who ate 3 big sandwiches just before taking!! and one was over the moon with his buzz, he was called a shill and not believed, why shd we believe the guy with the blue cap*cough* bullshit*cough", containing 100 mg and no filler, like i said just wait till more peeps report and lots of peeps who tested the samples have red ones, things will be clearer by tonight

anyone who has red caps please report your expericince

 

[FreddyB]

I've got some Red capsules sitting in the house, and am aware that if someone's going to send a fake product then they're certainly not going to honour their "money back guarantee", so am down some cash if they are indeed fake.

However, I'm still clutching at straws, because lots of people said they were going to take them last night, and there haven't been any positive feedback, BUT, everyone agrees that if you're tripping on these, no way could you type up a trip report.

What I'm basically saying, is I'm going to keep an open mind for any reports coming out today, and may try them tonight myself in the hope that I'm not totally down, and can have a fun night. (the wife's already decided they're bogus, and that we should totally give up on the RC scene until it's settled down, which is good advice, but I'm not willing to just flush them (and the money I spent on them) down the toilet without even trying them for myself).

 

[Scoobysnacks]

I can confirm that the samples from the official vendors are genuine at least. I sit in both camps here as I have tried and are expecting official samples but am also in possession of these red ones and have some clear (possibly blue) ones on the way. I think the main vendors are partly to blame for this situation for hyping BenzoFury so much but then not being able to produce the goods in time, but I have no doubt their product will be the real deal

Mullered they are clear , no blues , well only in this thread haha

freddy there were 3 positive reports, 2 glowing, we had one bad report and another one for the blue one ,also excellent but lies imo