• MDMA &
    Empathogenic
    Drugs

    Welcome Guest!

The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

Status
Not open for further replies.
Lazyscience said:
sorry, im still confused. are 6apb and 6-apdb the same or different chemical?
Click to expand...

I bet they are very similar. I can't imagine 6-apdb not being produced right now. So much hype about 6-apb i can't believe it or something similar to it such as 6-apdb isn't being produced elsewhere. I may be wrong though.
 
Lazyscience (apt name ;)): 6-APB and 6-APDB are different yet related compounds - vaguely like saying MDMA and MDA are similar but different, perhaps. 6-APB is apparently much smoother with less intense stimulation and less nausea with 6-APDB being a tad more "hardcore" and full-on euphoric apparently. If that's even possible 8o

Not seen any actual trip reports on the latter though so hard to say. Can't recall which is supposedly the more psychedelic of the two but think it was 6-APB. May be mistaken though. All the reports reported on so far are of 6-APB.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Finally got round to testing a full 100mg dose of this last night. I dabbed up ~90-100mg. definite effects in 40 minutes; full effect in ~90 min. A bit of nausea (hardly any really), but no sick.

Chatting ten to the dozen with a mate for a couple of hours (felt empathogenic to me); then made music the rest of the night - felt full effect for about 6 hours - but still high and slightly trippy feeling after. Really got into making the music - so much so I sat awkwardly and got bad neck and dead leg (I think due to sitting in bad position too long rather than meph-like vaso-effects - checked HR occaisonally never seemed higher than 90-100).

About 8 hours I felt like i could redose (Id started late and it was now too sunny to go to bed, so i thought to soldier on for a while). I scraped out the bag and got about 10-20 mg out - this wasn't worth keeping so i decied to see what it would do if i vaped a bit on some foil (i done this alot with mud, so i know what it should do - plus if it worked it could get most out of the amount left).
The small test vapourised like mud does (going clear then orange) and left hardly any residue. I inhaled this and it tasted like vaped mud. So I whacked the rest on the foil and did it. This did bring me back up a bit and extended the trippiness quite a while but it wasn't that intense (i felt double the amount would've been more worth doing).

After now doing the ~90-100mg dose range I have to agree with shambles that this is on a par with the ealy 90s pills (in terms of a pill that would keep you happy for 7 or 8 hours if nothing else). I'ts hard to compare objectively of course, especially as those 90s pills were taken when my serotonin glands were fresh as daisies (except for a bit of agonism here and there).
It's a good job it works for so long cos i wont be able to afford many of those pellets...:!
 
I don't recommend taking 200mg's at once...

especially your 1st/2nd/3rd times.

took all 200mgs dissolved in a glass of water at 12.30pm, i was violently sick within 45 mins for another 30 mins, before being a gurning mess with no energy, just serious tripping and and euphoria.

but i still managed to get a good dunt out of it, i was still going at 2.30am...
 
Here is the Lilly patent if anyone is interested.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7045545.html

I think it was vecktor that said that naphyrone was also a Lilly patented compound and made the argument that there's been no pursuit of that matter. I know customs often does work in an IP (intellectual property) protection task force in terms of counterfeit designer merchandise pharmaceuticals and dvd's cd's etc, but I don't know about fine chemicals. Selling this stuff as pressed pills I think is a bad idea in terms of IP violation, suspicion through customs and setting customers up to possibly get in trouble in the US and Australia, but that's just me.
 
Last edited:
^^ That report has been posted a few times now and seems to be based on rather outdated data. The UK has loads of quality MDMA crystal at the moment - not as widespread and cheap as it was but it's out there in abundance in many areas. Pills are still shit but have been for years so no great surprise there :\

Also, 100mg of 6-APB just been bombed in a rizla. Am looking to compare with the similar dose from a week ago and have a similar amount saved for tomorrow to test alternate ROA. I actually like to have a wee bit of tolerance for ROA testing cos some of them can be a bit pokey. Interesting to see somebody has tried smoking it and found some effects - is on my list to try as I have also had some success smoking (well, vapourising) MDMA before. Success being relative to the reason it was taken that way - there are just a few times when that rather shitty ROA for MDMA has it's uses. But they are rare.
 
YaniCZka said:
imho meph was so popular as it was cheap, but also the high was manageble and it was rather forgiving if not taken in large amounts. as it did not mess up with seretonin one could do it more often or in between the rolls. it brought something new to the world.
this compond is cool but i see it purely as mdma replacement. people who are really into chemicals usually have contacts to get proper mdma (for the same price or cheaper) and for general public (which loved meph so much) this stuff may be too hardcore...
Click to expand...

I tend to agree and think that may actually be for the best. I really don't think anybody needs "a new meph". One of those is quite enough thankyou ;)

Update on effects so far - took way longer to come up than last time but I think I just dropped it too soon after a meal so can understand that. Similar pattern to before - albeit it more drawn out this time - in that the come-up is really very smooth and only picks up fairly sharply just before it kicks in proper. Finding it a bit more hard to focus than last time but have a similar sloppy grin on me face and feels like it hasn't really peaked yet. Feels like more potential for stimulation is building this time - bit more jittery than before. Possibly as the dose was properly weighed at 100mg this time rather than 85-90mg plus whatever was stuck to the bag.
 
JohnnyVodka said:
When I first did meph (& before that Neo Doves & Spirits), I thought it was very 'pilly'. But it felt less pilly - and more just like a horny dopamine high) over time. I wonder how 6-apb will pan out long term?

As I've said before, the main problem with meph was it felt like you could just have a cheeky line (hence mid-week dosing should you have any around). Trouble was, one line always became another... until your supply ran out.

That said, I bloody miss meph. :o
Click to expand...

thats why i dont think this will have mass market appeal like meph did - its a lot less abusable, you cant go about your every day business on it, well at least I cant! meph really took off because it appealed to the masses of causal drug users who have the odd line of coke and puff of a spliff but would never dream about taking 5 pills in a night, it was cheap, legal, and without strong will power it wasnt hard to migrate to mid week or multi day sessions.
 
Cool, do you think it'd be any good to go out on? Does it give you much energy/any sort of special receptiveness to music?
 
Hehe. Still within sight of the plot but it's a getting a tad hazy shimmering away over there on the horizon just out of reach :D

Seems more mellow and less stimulating than last time despite how it felt on the come-up. Suspect that would be mostly down to dropping too soon after eating but am giving it a mostly clear run at it this time too compared to last week. Not been drinking (just GBL which I use daily and would feel pretty crappy if I skipped it) and not been up 24 hours already on naphyrone either which probably makes a big difference. Pretty sure it would have...

Like last time, there is a feeling I could have comfortably gone a tad higher - maybe 125-150mg. I do love getting a bit messy though so probably not what everybody would be looking for. Feels more gentle and dreamy than before although still with a definite speedy undertone. Being sat alone at me PC rather than shaking a lil tailfeather with like-minded folks probably isn't ideal for making use of that energy - definitely good for parties and really doesn't need any other drugs to "fill out" the experience. Despite the feeling of slightly underdosing I really don't feel any desire to redose or top-up - am quite satisfied at this level but would go a tad higher next time probably. But this is fine as it is too - very different to meph, M1 and the like.

Feels almost a bit like IV MDMA to me - not the initial rush obviously, but the part that follows - kinda like a nice, but not outrageous, dose of MDMA crystal with the added, mildish, psychedelic elements that it has dosed IV for me. Less speedy and rushy but with a very similar headspace.

Tis rather fabulously fine and funkypants =D

EDIT: Just had an enormously long and deeply satisfying wee. Anyone who recalls the events of last week will know how much of a Good Thing that is =D
 
Last edited:
Shambles - would you recommend a 1st dose of 100mg to a reasonably experienced person? It sounds possibly too much reading about it here, but I've coped with double-dropped pills, etc before. As much as I don't want to be overwhelmed by my first dose, I don't want to be underwhelmed either!
 
Shambles said:
EDIT: Just had an enormously long and deeply satisfying wee. Anyone who recalls the events of last week will know how much of a Good Thing that is =D
Click to expand...

Haha i can imagine, took me 3 seperate long attemps to acomplish that'un last week =D
 
JohnnyVodka said:
Shambles - would you recommend a 1st dose of 100mg to a reasonably experienced person? It sounds possibly too much reading about it here, but I've coped with double-dropped pills, etc before. As much as I don't want to be overwhelmed by my first dose, I don't want to be underwhelmed either!
Click to expand...

I'd say so, 90mg oral underwhelmed me euphoria wise & i'm pretty thin (6'2/60kg). I'm pretty experienced with md and that, but the visuals were really intense for me, moreso than other reports.
 
What is the visual aspect of 6-APB? patterning, breathing, depth perception? Please describe.
 
Link_S said:
I'd say so, 90mg oral underwhelmed me euphoria wise & i'm pretty thin (6'2/60kg). I'm pretty experienced with md and that, but the visuals were really intense for me, moreso than other reports.
Click to expand...

Don't quite get ya. Or was 90mg underwhelming euphoria-wise but over-whelming for visuals? What would you recommend for a 1st time dose to a fairly experienced drug user?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top