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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Ick! Meph is surely naught but an insult to a drug as damnably sexy as this one 8o

Daytime dosing does sound like it could be a winner though. Was thinking I'll probably not dose till tonight but it is a lovely sunny day here so definitely has its appeal :D
 
Shambles said:
I sincerely hope not :|

Any notes on the "new and improved" synth you sampled last night, Sky?
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DeefyDee said:
Skyline how did last night go in the end?
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I was totally wasted on that 90mg 6-APB, i think 75mg would have been a better dose for me, it reminded me of my first sample experience of this back in May actually (same @ 90mg), id forgotten how much that knocked me for 6 as this did last night. I spent most of the night cuddling my gf on the sofa drifting in and out of a gurning, euphoric sleepy state. I think the sample i had last week wasnt as strong for me as i split dosed it, and it seems like the were some impurities if the NMR analysis is correct. It seems they've nailed the bulk synth this time 8o

I did try to curtail the effects at one point around 6am using a couple of bumps of naphyrone (weeker stuff, not the batch cut with mdpv) assuming the TRI would mess up the releasing mechanisms, but it made no difference. perhaps even potentiated it as I'm not back to base line yet!
 
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Yaniczka, well I'm not sure that 6-apdb is any more of an anorectic than 6-apb. 6-apb is a 5ht-2c agonist causing nausea, but don't know about 6-apdb, it might possibly be less anorexic. I agree with what vecktor says about 6-apdb being the same according to uk law as 6-apb, although I'm not talking about a UK vendor that would be selling the 6-apdb.
 
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MeDieViL said:
Interesting to see yet another potential winner most likely show up!
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Also, don't forget the possibility of N-methylation of both 6-apb and 6-apdb. Although noone knows if the D isomer is strong enough for these compounds to be sufficiently potent after N-methylation, but it looks like there's a good chance. This would lessen psychedelic effects, and could possibly be even more in the direction of mdma than mdma is. In terms of psychedelic to entactogenic spectrum.
 
Turing Machine said:
Yaniczka, well I'm not sure that 6-apdb is any more of an anorectic than 6-apb. 6-apb is a 5ht-2c agonist causing nausea, but don't know about 6-apdb, it might possibly be less anorexic. I agree with what vecktor says about 6-apdb being the same according to uk law as 6-apb, although I'm not talking about a UK vendor that would be selling the 6-apdb.
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Yeah i vomited on the come up of 6-APB, something never happened to me on MDMA or other drugs. It wasnt a bad vomit tough and well worth it%)
 
Osky_P said:
Skyline, I saw the photo you posted would you say this batch was more off-white than tan/brown? did it have any brown speckles in?
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Off-white/cream, no speckles.. looked a lot cleaner than the samples from last week.
 
Turing Machine said:
Also, don't forget the possibility of N-methylation of both 6-apb and 6-apdb. Although noone knows if the D isomer is strong enough for these compounds to be sufficiently potent after N-methylation, but it looks like there's a good chance. This would lessen psychedelic effects, and could possibly be even more in the direction of mdma than mdma is. In terms of psychedelic to entactogenic spectrum.
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Hi.

The nausea will be a big problem for me.

What could I take with the 6-APB to prevent the nausea?

Would an anti-nausea drug be ok, such as a Dramamine tablet?

What would be the best drug to take with the 6-APB?
 
Skyline_GTR said:
Off-white/cream, no speckles.. looked a lot cleaner than the samples from last week.
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Maybe what you got this time was 6-apdb?
How are people supposed to tell which is which?
Maybe the vendors offering 'bf' in powder form are getting 6-apdb produced somewhere other than this 6-apb pellet lab thingy? If they are similar then you'd go for the 6-apdb yeah as it works out far cheaper?

Brian.Badonde said:
Hi.

The nausea will be a big problem for me.

What could I take with the 6-APB to prevent the nausea?

Would an anti-nausea drug be ok, such as a Dramamine tablet?

What would be the best drug to take with the 6-APB?
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weed probably as it's anti nausea.
 
It would appear that some mild antacids help some users with initial nausea using MDMA, therefore it is a correct and helpful suggestion.

Anti-emetics may also help, depending on ones choice. Cannabis, peppermint tea, ginger, all are good for settling your stomach.
 
I think I already know the answer to this question, but to anyone that's gotten noticeable psychedelic effects did they experience sore throat and/or throat/lung mucous production like some people, including me, get with some 2c-x's and tryptamines, or is it a very noticeable bronchodilator like amphetamine, or both or neither?

I'm also curious, has anyone who's sampled this used a dipstick urine test for amphetamine and/or mda? I highly doubt it would cause a positive gc/ms test for mda but what about amphetamine?
 
Shambles, I believe everyone gets bronchodilation from amphetamine and mdma. I don't know about MDA though. Racemic amphetamine was actually the most common ingredient in asthma inhalers for a long time.
 
blobbymahn said:
Ha, you must be super human. Bumps of K send me straight to the nearest floor.
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I mix k with almost everything. Really is my booster for most drugs. Have been times when I can't use mdma without k, and the same aplies for some of my friends. Will be interesting to see how it mixes with 6-APB. Maybe enhance the visuals, maybe .... ? It's a brave new world :)
 
does this stuff couse nausea on come up more than mdma? not very good news with all that womiting... do people who felt sick have similar problem with other substances? thks.
 
Ghostface69 said:
I mix k with almost everything. Really is my booster for most drugs. Have been times when I can't use mdma without k, and the same aplies for some of my friends. Will be interesting to see how it mixes with 6-APB. Maybe enhance the visuals, maybe .... ? It's a brave new world :)
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Heheh, might be a good idea to leave it until you're experienced with the 6-apb though. You never know, it might make you grow and extra nipple or something.
 
Brian.Badonde said:
Hi.

The nausea will be a big problem for me.

What could I take with the 6-APB to prevent the nausea?

Would an anti-nausea drug be ok, such as a Dramamine tablet?

What would be the best drug to take with the 6-APB?
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Badonde, Cannabis is probably the least toxic and most available of the effective antinausea therapies. Even with knowing the receptor affinity, it's hard to say exactly how effective 6-apb is as an emetic in the population in general, much less in any specific person. If you do not tolerate cannabis well I'd say after you're sure of the identification of the compound you acquired and have ascertained whether you're allergic or sensitive just to start with a low dose of 35-60 mg's to see how it effects you. I personally have a strong stomach sensitivity to MDA and MDMA/MDA combinations, but even with MDMA I like a relatively the therapeutics dose range of 60-100mg. To me there's something nice about having the open communication while still having the intellectual presence for the experience to mean something afterwards. I like the combination of relaxation and stimulation that this range brings, ald I like not being impotent when I take an empathogen, and I like not having a brutal hangover the next day. It seems I'm in the minority though.

It probably goes without saying but cannabis is a very effective antiemetic anti-nauseant. I've heard stories of death from alcohol poisoning associated with cannabis because it prevented vomiting even at very high doses of ethanol. Although the deaths were wrongly more attributed to the cannabis than the ethanol. Then there's the obvious use of cannabis treating people with bulimia greatly reducing the ability of bulimics to mechanically induce vomiting or reducing nausea and establishing and appetite in those undergoing chemotherapy. It's really hard to beat in this arena especially when combining with an untested drug that may cause any range of unwanted mental or physical side effects when combined with an anticholinergic like dramamine or meclizine or prescription only compounds. It's also easily found for most people.
 
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after a couple of mg test this morning i swallowed 70mg about 4.30ish. hour or say later like you say slight mood lift. I'm 99.9% sure this is MDAI looks and smells like it and the subtlety of effects certainly feels like it.

So yeah, everyone was right - any powder 6-apb being offered now is defo bullshit. basically they're seizing the opportunity off the back of the buzz about this stuff to offload their lesser products at inflated prices.

bastards! live and learn... i don't mind MDAI as it goes so i've just put another 100mg under my tongue and feeling ok... although that could just as easily be the double jameson's i've poured myself to drowned my sorrows. i'll probably bosh the whole gram tonight, it's quite decent at high doses.

roll on "Pellet Wednesday". have fun all.
 
Turing Machine said:
Shambles, I believe everyone gets bronchodilation from amphetamine and mdma. I don't know about MDA though. Racemic amphetamine was actually the most common ingredient in asthma inhalers for a long time.
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Doh! Too much skimming makes Shambles a confusing boy :o

What I should have said is that I noticed no chest issues of the sort you mentioned happening with 2C-x but also nothing in particular the other direction. I presume this must mean it's more along bronchodilator lines as my breathing felt pretty normal rather than congested at all. Wasn't like I'd been huffing Vick's or owt either though. Maybe I'm just not good at noticing such things cos breathing felt essentially the same as it does sober to me. Did smoke a fair bit though - more like I would on amphetamine than on MDMA if that's relevant at all. Guess my chest must have been pretty open and easy or I'd be coughing my guts up usually.
 
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