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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread

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I'd like to hear peoples' best guesses at a maximum "safe" dosage(low risk of physical harm). I realize I can cause myself severe physical harm by tripping too hard and losing awareness, but I would certainly have a trip sitter if I decide to push it to that level, hopefully mitigating that risk.

Also, as far as starting low goes, how long after ingestion(most likely oral) does it become wasteful to redose? I'm not trying to just jump in at 20mg, end up being one of the sensitive people, and freak the fuck out. However, I would also like to move past the lower levels as I experience them if they're not particularly to my liking. Is there a glass ceiling to booster doses or is it fairly easy to adjust the trip to your purposes?

I have read the posts involving redosing and high doses, but they seem to be as varied as the lower dose reports. On a final note, I realize there is a severe shortage of official information in this regard and am prepared to take any and all advice at my own risk.
 
I'd like to hear peoples' best guesses at a maximum "safe" dosage(low risk of physical harm).
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I think it is around 15 mg. As you can see, some people report 30-35 mg as OK, and others get severe side-effects: check recent Survived Abortion's report

Also, as far as starting low goes, how long after ingestion(most likely oral) does it become wasteful to redose?
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I found that redosing after 1 hour is wasteful. It insesifies and prolonges trip, but without really changing the nature of experience. In other words, for me 12 mg > 5 + 10 mg after 1:15.
 
any major dude said:
i'm really interested in this substance, seems preferable to foxy for most. what was your dosage for that experience survivedabortion?
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I like it ALOT better than Foxy, which I found to be just sort of weirdish (though I can see how the body buzz foxy gives led to it being given that name, remember that it was among the first generation of "designer drugs," and that perhaps we've got more/better choices nowadays).

I had good luck with 5-Meo-Mipt doses in the range of 18-22mg (though 9-12 is certainly feelable, for me a bit more was preferable), never felt anything bad, though it seemed like that was "enough" and my body really would not want me to go beyond that range. Initial body buzz, often erotic, with some shimmery visual effects, turning more deeply psychedelic at 3-5 hours in. Nice. Multifaceted.

By the way the 5MEO aspect means its pretty stable when vaped/smoked, and tiny little bumps of 2-5mg can be put atop ash or some herb and used for some very quick effective but modest trippy rushes... not as profound as a full oral dose and much shorter acting, but useful in their own right. (Psychedelic crack? Well doesn't really have the intense rushing euphoria for it to be called that I don't think, and some people just dont care for the unique feeling, though most probably do)
 
Thanks, allium, seems like sound advice to me. That report is concerning since I'd like to see what this stuff can do >20mg, but we'll see what happens after I test the waters.
 
I took 12mg and another 3mg bump a couple hours in and had one of the most intense trips of my life... more visually intense than my 60mg 2c-e trip. also the first time I lost my shit in awhile, had a bit of a panic attack midway through... I think i was too overwhelmed by the visual aspect because the first 3 or so hours were almost completely nonvisual. out of nowhere i'm experiencing crazy OEVs with very vivid synesthesia (something i almost never get from drugs like LSD and 2c-e which are known to cause it) and my CEVs were absolutely INSANE.

this chem was very interesting and unlike many other psychedelics i've tried... for the most part i really enjoyed it and have to say that it has quite a bit of potential.
 
are the erotic effects lost at higher, fully psychedelic doses? because I didn't experience much tactile enhancement.. but i might just not get that effect from the teh moxy :(
 
I don't know about you guys...

I've had LSD on blotter for years and this 5-meo-mipt is fucking horrible, there is nothing funny or mood enlightening about that tryptamine. It felt more artificial than anything I've ever had (and I snorted some powdered pcp before) and the body stimulation coupled with the ego loss at ~9.5mg was a bit too much considering what I expected. It didn't have the wavy, watery feeling of lsd (which to me is it's only bodyload), I felt like I had to move but then my heart rate went to about 140 during the come up and first hour then time started dilate just as I was thinking "Oh well, at least this is a short one".

So I tried to reach for my benzos to get the Fear out, which I only felt on about 7-8 hits of 'cid, but no dice, even if it wasn't visual in the least, my mind was confused my pounding heart rate distracted me in my search for my bottle of valiums, getting in a spiral of confusion and fear. So I actually went to the ER to get some (I imagined they would only think I was in benzo withdrawal, which worked), was given 2mg of ativan then walked out of the hospital (very short ordeal, can't believe it, I was out after 1h15). Then later the stimulation went away and it became more like what I like from psychs, just like a lot of people in this thread noticed. But I was so tired and insulted by this compound, that I can only say one thing right now :

As a very seasoned psych user, in my opinion, 5-meo-mipt is fucking horrible. Never having a 5-meo-something ever again.

:X:p
 
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Hrm, this isn't good. Dosed saturday night at midnight, so let's say it was sunday.

The day after I was alright, but yesterday I started feeling some dizziness mixed with panic attacks and feeling like I'm losing control....I never had any such feelings from my 200+ lsd doses (over a 9 year span). I have intermittent headaches and pain in the neck and ears. Had horrible thoughts of doing stupid crap. But the worst of all symptoms is definitely A GODDAMN DIZZINESS THAT WON'T GO AWAY, even when sitting!

Getting out of the shower earlier was more like getting out of a boat. Strangely I can walk without problems. I just have this feeling of being disconnected and subjective dizziness. This isn't good at all....I hope this goes away in the next few days. I'm already ill enough from other things as it is.
 
^Don't worry - I promise you'll be fine. I believe that the diziness is serotonin related. I remember on my last high-dose trip with this substance I was phasing in and out of the liminal threshold of consiousness for a few hours toward the end of the trip. I remember thinking there was a reminiscence of brain zaps, but different. I think it felt more like being on the verge of serotonin syndrome. This leads me to believe that it may somewhat release serotonin in to the synapses at high doses.

You may feel out of sorts for a few days after the trip, since it seems the mild serotonin effects last for quite a while beyond the trip. You will gradually notice those effects diminishing til you don't notice them anymore.

The headaches you can somewhat control, by meditation. These substances are actually useful for preventing certain types of headaches, but you can feel the vascular action from high dose moxy trips lingering well after the trip is over. 5-MeO-MiPT is quite like 5-MeO-DMT in the head feeling it gives you. It's like there's something furious going on inside there. Using meditation you can actually make something positive of these effects.
 
Oh I can handle the tryptamine that's in shrooms alright <_<

Today I seem to have come back to normality, which is awesome, the dizziness and dissociation and bad thoughts are gone, although, my heart rate sometimes goes to over 100 again for no discernible reasons.

My position on 5-meo-mipt stands. Although I'd try simple MiPT if possible.
 
I'm planning on using 5-Meo-Mipt during the day on saturday and later I will go out clubbing. Is it safe to use amphetamine later in the evening or are there any bad interactions?

The 5-Meo-Mipt will be dosed at around 1 pm and I will go clubbing at 11 pm.
 
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I will be well over by 11 if you take it at 1
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I know it will be over, but since it is a research chemical I wanted to know if there could be any dangerous interactions with residual amounts of 5-meo-mipt still in my system.

Is there e.g. any risk of serotonine syndrome if I end up taking MDxx later? And does 5-meo-mipt deplete neurotransmitters or does it bind straight to the receptors?
 
I don't know the exact way 5-MeO-MIPT acts on the Monoamines but be warned. I'm into the RC thing for 5 years now and tried a lot of combinations (some blissful some weird) but the most frightening experience in my life was a combination of 7mg 5-MeO-MIPT and 100mg bk-MDMA. I suffered from cancer - I know what fear is, but this combination is so stupid and left me with trauma like symptoms for 3 weeks now. Including some mild HPPD. I knew about the risk of this combination so a friend and I took the low dosed bk-MDMA 7 hours after the 5-MeO-MIPT. As long as the bk-MDMA acted there were no complications but 10 hours after the 5-MeO-MIPT ingestion there started something really wrong in our bodies. It was definately a serotonin syndrome. I called a medical service for help but was able to get the situation under control with controlled breathing and a sober person next to me. My heart was racing and sometimes seemed to stop beating. I had an extremely dry mouth a weird headache, very high body temperature, cramps all over my body I have never experienced before and weird pain in my breast. My respiration seemed to by dissociated from my unconscious so I had to breath by myself. I also began to have strong visuals. The "attacks" came in waves. In one moment I was nearly sober and suddenly my heart began to beat faster and faster. It was beating so fast that I nearly blacked out (probably because of overstimulation). The tricky thing about this was the fact that these symptoms first developed after all the effects had weared of. I felt so safe during the experience that I considered redosing.... I'm alive because I didn't.

The ungood fealing in my breast lasted for 5 days. I was mildly tripping the following 2 weeks. And some traumatic feelings still come up at least once a day. I was unable to sleep the first days after the experience propably due to the trauma. My friend wasn't affected so much.... he didn't know as much about the possible consequences as I did so he had more trust that everything was going to be alright.
It seems that everything is in order again. The by now mild HPPD symptoms still decrease. I stay abstinent to give my brain some chance for regeneration.

Please excuse my english but I wanted to share this and don't have much time for correction.
 
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I don't mean to trivialize your experience but I doubt that 100mg methylone and 7mg 5-meo-mipt caused a dangerous situation or serotonin system... always be cautious though.
 
I did appr. 30 mgs of this compound on saturday. I'm a 240lbs male and it felt i could go higher.

Brightly colored CEV's, no real mindfuck or euphoria for that matter. When i layed down on my bed and sunk deeper into the CEV's there were brainzaps.

I found that uncomfortable, but opening my eyes and moving around prevented further zaps.

Bodyload was manageable, altough i did go for a walk early into the trip and that wasn't a good idea, tbh.

There's some restlesness but no boundless energy.

Slightly elevated heartrate, and most of the trip was over in 4 hours.

Mipt is interesting, not very social but it is erotic though.

Visually better than 4-HO-MET, but 4-HO has less of a bodyload and more of a mindfuck.
 
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