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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread

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Xorkoth said:
I always thought this one tasted better than almost any other tryptamine. Not that it tastes good, but I found it not to be bad at all.
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Tastes more like putrid rotten corpses and less like generic chemical-bitter, imo :D

Had 33 mg 4-HO-MET and then 25 mg 5-MeO-MiPT at T+6. The latter experience flowed seamlessly from the first with a slightly new angle. More powerful than expected but tolerance was definitely present.
 
Mjäll said:
Tastes more like putrid rotten corpses and less like generic chemical-bitter, imo :D

Had 33 mg 4-HO-MET and then 25 mg 5-MeO-MiPT at T+6. The latter experience flowed seamlessly from the first with a slightly new angle. More powerful than expected but tolerance was definitely present.
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Damn! That is a super high dose. I was F'ed on 8 mg
 
I'd just like to point out that there seems to be some confusion regarding dosage and ROA for this substance. BL's have reported a steep and non-linear dose-response curve, with drastic differences between the subjective effects experienced between low doses and high doses. I'll be trying this one in a few weeks and just read the thread again to refresh my memory on what people have had to say about 5-MeO-MiPT. Some people report no visuals, and some say it is very visual at higher doses. Looking at Erowid's "tentative" dosage chart, I'm wondering if anyone can confirm that much more drug is required when smoking vs. oral admin? Erowid lists a strong oral dose as 5-12mg, where as a strong smoked dose is 15-20mg. I'll certainly use the oral ROA for my first time, but does anyone have experience with achieving medium to strong visuals using both routes? If so, I'd be interested in hearing what dose was required for both ROA to produce decent visuals?

Another question I have is about using a medium dose of 5-MeO-MiPT to offset the more lethargic effects of 4-Aco-DMT. I love the deep and powerful experience from IM 4-Aco-DMT, but would like the energy to go exploring the forest etc. Anyone have any advice or experience with this combo? What kind of dosing schedule would you recommend? I was thinking maybe I'd take 5-7mg moxy about an hour before injecting 30mg of 4-Aco-DMT IM? I have a fair bit experience with 4-Aco-DMT and combining it with 2-CB, n,n DMT, 2-CE, and alcohol. Many in this thread have said they feel Moxy is a powerful enhancer or booster. Would Moxy's effects compliment the 4-Aco-DMT?
 
Tried this out earlier today (15mg oral), wasn't overly impressed. It seems kind of.. odd, I guess. :\
 
^ It certainly is an odd one, different from any other psychedelic I've tried for sure. I can't quite place my finger on what it is, but it seems as though there is a constant weirdy undertow to most of the experience, except it lightens up into a more shroomy state towards the end.

As many others have said, definitely a two-phase trip. However, I don't 'roll' during the first phase, just an odd sense of humour, a hilarity which fits in with that 'shifted' head-space I find my self in. Like everything is just slightly different in someway, but giggles come easy.

During the plateau, it seems very calm, but still weird - I can only describe it as slightly alien, perhaps like that alien feel sometimes encountered on mushrooms. Pastel colours, washy and fluffy, picking out glows from distant neon lights.

The later second phase is more traditionally psychedelic in a less alien sense, but still with a tinge of weirdness lurking. Lovely aurora-type glows, auras around tree silloughettes etc. Definitely one to experience outdoors, but also indoor lighting and colours can catalyze a wonderfully shroomy colourspace. As always, listening to Lateralus by Tool is fantastic (when sober let alone on psychedelics).

A dark horse of the psychedelics, giving small glimpses of things at a time. I'll have to experiment more for sure to see if there is more to Moxy than I have yet discovered.
 
Survived Abortion said:
As always, listening to Lateralus by Tool is fantastic (when sober let alone on psychedelics).
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Favorite album, ever =D

I'll be trying 5-MeO-MiPT out soon. Does it have a nice stimulation? Or more lethargic?

I'm also wondering has anyone tried smoking 5-MeO-MiPT while on a psychedelic like acid or 2C-x?

A lot of people smoke DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and do nitrous on psychedelics. I'm wondering if smoking 5-MeO-MiPT is equally useful for such applications.
 
I've smoked some 4 mg of 5-MeO-MiPT on the tail of an acid trip. The chemical smell was a little more unpleasant than usual, and promoted a pleasant lying in bed looking at the breasts of my friend which proceeded to position themselves as a great network of hexagons. Hypnotic and nice mind trip. After 10-15 minutes I had to go take a piss, and in the bathroom a visual white-out of the sort familiar from 5-MeO-DMT was closely nudged.

It felt like it revived the acid trip, but also pushed it aside. Pleasant, neutral, with mood lift, but not lasting very long. More like 5-MeO-DiPT in most respects, but with more pleasant body buzz.

Can't say much more, it was pleasant and lasted for 20 minutes and then the tail of the LSD peak dominated again.
 
Anyone else try smoking 5-MeO-MiPT while on a more classic psychedelic? I'm wondering if people do it in the same vain as people smoking DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and doing nitrous on more classic psychedelics.

And does 5-MeO-MiPT give you a good enough energy to be out partying or out in the wilderness, or is it more of a lethargic high?
 
spacefacethebassace said:
Damn! That is a super high dose. I was F'ed on 8 mg
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I used a higher dose because of cross tolerance between tryptamines.

I would say 18 mg would have produced roughly the same effects (though with a more rough and real come-up plateau dynamic) if taken sober.

I plan on taking some 10-12 mg on new years eve. 5-MeO-MiPT is a peculiar little friend.
 
Absolutely life affirming

love_sex_desire said:
^^ So I assume are you saying it is a good drug to party on?!? Hopefully some people will answer my questions a couple posts up!
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Love_Sex_Desire; My original post was probably a tad misleading. Since I posted that, I have really ramped up the dose because I felt that there definitely was more to be discovered from this amazing chemical.

Yes, indeed, I would say to you it is a fantastic drug to take in a good-vibed social setting. My first trials with it were with the Erowid recommended doses, and those of others reported on Bluelight. However, I have never seen a report on Bluelight that comes close to describing the incredible power of Moxy.

Before I start - people have been saying it's like a roll. It's nothing like a roll. This is complete cosmic positivity permeating your entire space.

The other night I took on average ~100mg, spaced out over a period of about 3 hours. The 10-15mg doses just weren't cutting it. I find that many people really underball the doses of new psychedelics, but I really like to push the envelope, to see where these things really kick into gear. ****So anyhow I decided to spend my time tripping in a very nice family-oriented bar on the top road from where I live. Visuals came on fast, after dosing the first 20-30mg in a cap, as my friends and I were walking to the bar. The jewels from from the car headlights were spectacular, prisms of unseen spectrums just everywhere.

In the bar, it got ridiculous. We sat down and ordered our drinks, and people's clothes, the carpet, all the colours were so starkly contrasted in a beautiful array of colours I have never seen on any psychedelic before. You could almost breathe in the colours, they were that erotic.:)

Feeling the need to re-dose, I had pre-loaded a capsule to bring with us, and we each had another ~20mg (60mg capsule divided by 3) straight off the table. Sounds, colours, peoples faces at the bar, it was just an absolute burst of positivity manifesting in synaesthetic senses that simply could not get better. In all my tripping years, I have never been so lucid, able to hold converstion with complete strangers whilst having a complete orgy of the senses.

We went back to mine to get more (since one of my friends was complaining he wasn't 'feeling it' as much as me and and the other), and there I put ~50-60mg into capsules. Did them and went back to the bar, and thereupon it got just psychedelic like I've never know before.

You need no preconceptions, just let it do what it does, and keep into that frequency.

It wasn't as if there was a mess of visuals in front of my face I had to see through in order to make sense of what was going on, nor was it disorienting in any sense of the word. On the contrary, everything was as clear as a bell, clearer than you could possibly imagine, and it only took a stimulatory walk around the bar with all it's fancy colours, garlands, smells, people talking, to set off a complete smorgasbord of absolute sensory 'multigasm'. I'm sorry, that is the only way I can describe it. Everyone still looked the same, but God could not have imparted more positivity into Creation if he tried. Absolute abundant glowing positivity. Tingling scalp, and frontal cortex of the brain just by processing all things in Creation. Like just a constant escalating explosion of love, colour, synaesthesia. This is how the universe looks, this is how light really shines. :D

Eating breaded mushrooms was something else, never before experienced. Lemon Meringue pie we all scoffed like ravenous dogs, hungry for sensory input. Sacred geometry would permeate from my friends into the space around and light up the room into a place of perfection. You will really get the munch-on with this one. It is so loungy and receptive, you can just sit there and let it happen, there is absolutely no head-fuck whatsoever; this is the kind of stuff you could sell at psychedelic bars (if they were legal) and just be with your friends and share your senses about with everyone.

Spologies if I sould like a lunatic, but after reading so many half-assed reports here, and only experiencing a mild ++ at best with low doses, this really is the stuff when you dive in deep.

Happy times, and of course have a wicked new year!
 
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love_sex_desire said:
^^ So I assume are you saying it is a good drug to party on?!? Hopefully some people will answer my questions a couple posts up!
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No, I'll be with a handful of friends only. Though I have visited a more expansive social situation while on 5-MeO-MiPT, I cannot recommend this.
 
love_sex_desire said:
Anyone else try smoking 5-MeO-MiPT while on a more classic psychedelic? I'm wondering if people do it in the same vain as people smoking DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and doing nitrous on more classic psychedelics.

And does 5-MeO-MiPT give you a good enough energy to be out partying or out in the wilderness, or is it more of a lethargic high?
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Ive smoked 5 meo mipt while on mdma/2cb/2ci.
The dose was ~6-8mg.
It was nowhere near as intense or beautiful as DMT or 5 meo DMT can be, though im sure you can change that by adjusting the dose. Also it lasted longer; around 1.5 hours.

As for your second question, in lower doses 6-12mg it is a good drug to party on. Above 12mg is where it becomes a bit more of a serious psychedelic.
IME it can be very strange and alien feeling at 12mg+. Also the bodyload increases with higher doses.
The only time ive ever been nauseas or puked from 5 meo mipt was from a 12mg trip.
 
^^ I know to take some of Shulgin's suggestions with a grain of salt, but 100 mg is 20 times Shulgin's recommended dose! Nausea at 12 mg, imagine over 8 times that! Crazy.
 
100 mg is crazy, yeah. take heed.

However; I accidentally dosed 80 mg due mislabelled bags (stupid as ever - thought i was going to test a low dose 3-desoxy-MDA) and got a surprise trip, for sure a strong one, but not unpleasant at all and not much in the negative bodyload department. Some parts are lost to me - watched a movie with an ex and can't say i remember much more than laughing extremely much.

A very high dose 5-meo-dipt would not have been as forgiving.

Anyhow, I think I prefer the light psychedelic cheering up effect of lower oral dosage or more entactogenic smoking of a couple of milligrams.
 
To be fair, I didn't experience any noticable nausea with this 100mg escapade - I certainly didn't puke, nor did I get any diahorea or colic. The only bodyload effect I had was leg-pains, lasting the whole trip. Yet the trip was so positive, the pain was almost just as positive as everything else. It's really hard to describle. Just natural as it comes.

Also, I must add that I get leg-pains from most tryptamines anyway, including psilocin and LSD.

I just wanted to show that this is more than simply an entactogenic drug with a few sparkles - it truely is full-on psychedelic if you're prepared to take a proper dose.

<3
 
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dear folks, just coming down from my 2nd IM'd 5-meo-mipt trip with 20mg: a very intensive trip with awesome CEV's, on the edge to ego-dissulution and a strong but nice bodyload. imo the best ROA. i ask myself what will happen on much higher dosages IM'd? i guess a psychedelic breakthrough could be possible, but will it be physical safe to IM clearly above 20mg?
 
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