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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DMT Thread - First Launch

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I appreciate the compliment :)

In my first post I neglected to mention that I've had a handful of run-ins with two batches of Yopo snuffs (four trials ranging from 4-6 seeds). In terms of discomfort, I was certainly afflicted by some of the less than appealing physical aspects of MeO although I was able to let go and appreciate the experience. All in all, with the guidance of my fellow BL'ers I'm fairly confident I will be able to embrace (or troubleshoot!) whatever effects Ms. M deems acceptable.

=D

Yopo, isn't that bufotenin, 5-HO-DMT? I've always wanted to try that, idk how it would compare to 5-meo, I hear 5-ho actually has a cleaner feeling, but that was from extracts and stuff....

I do have a great relationship with my 5-meo, and now that i'm sober, i'd recommend a low dose to start. Not necessarily bc it will prepare you for a higher dose or let you test the waters, bc once you break thru the glass its a whole new ballgame anyways. I just say try low dose bc it could allow you to trust the chemical more and allow yourself to go with it.
 
Are those reactions the result of 5-7mg doses?
I don't remember, it was 6 or 7 years ago. I think they probably were, as they were first time doses for my friends. I've only used 5-MeO-DMT once in the past 3 or 4 years, just 5 mg in combination with the "lower tier" drugs ghb and opiates no less, but it was probably my single best experience with it. I was spontaneously compelled to dig it out and use it at the most unexpected time. When I did I found that my metabolism of it had slowed markedly compared to the past; it was 15 minutes of aching smiles, full-bellied laughter, and teary-eyed bliss. The delayed decline may have been the result of the combination though.
 
p.s also i have a hundredths scale 0.00 ten mg look like this 0.10 correct? just to be safe...

NO NO NO!!!!!!!! 0.10g would be 100 milligrams. 0.01g would be 10 milligrams....but if you are using 5-MeO-DMT, you should most definitely have a MILLIGRAM SCALE, which goes to the thousandth (0.001g).

Weighing 0.01g on a "hundredth" scale is NOT accurate enough, .01g could be anywhere between 8 and 18 milligrams. THIS IS NOT NEARLY ACCURATE ENOUGH FOR THIS COMPOUND. DO NOT RISK USING A "0.01g" SCALE FOR 5-MEO-DMT. This could end up being extremely, extremely dangerous and stupid.
is there the possibility i could be quite disruptive?
Yes, this is a major possibility. I've seen people on 15mg 5-MeO-DMT (smoked) have the craziest muscle tremors, kicking violently, screaming "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU GIVE ME" at the top of the lungs, vomiting, and pissing themselves. He had to be physically restrained until he came down. Once baseline, he thought that for the whole trip, he was laying down, sitting still playing with liquid visuals having the TIME of his LIFE. When he realized what he ACTUALLY did, he was quite embarrassed.
just to be safe...
You need a milligram scale to be safe. Which goes to 0.001g. Pocket sized digital milligram scales can be found for approx. $50 on eBay. If you are going to use sensitive compounds, you damn sure need a sensitive scale.
 
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Yopo, isn't that bufotenin, 5-HO-DMT? I've always wanted to try that, idk how it would compare to 5-meo, I hear 5-ho actually has a cleaner feeling, but that was from extracts and stuff....

I do have a great relationship with my 5-meo, and now that i'm sober, i'd recommend a low dose to start. Not necessarily bc it will prepare you for a higher dose or let you test the waters, bc once you break thru the glass its a whole new ballgame anyways. I just say try low dose bc it could allow you to trust the chemical more and allow yourself to go with it.

It has HO, MEO, and N,N I believe.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt_timeline.php
 
gotcha...interesting...id like to hear ur experience with that....maybe if there is a yopo thread somewhere? or if u wrote up a report
 
'twas an awesome time once I got the edible lime proportions down (holy burn batman!) 8o

My most successful experience left me with an awesome afterglow which helped me get my head on strait--I was starting to slip into some bad habits that could have gotten worse had I not done something to stop them.

As for the actual effects, I got some interesting OEVs (3D-esque perception of my room) combined with a strong sense of acceptance of the here-and-now. With my eyes closed I felt as if I was in an infinite blackness similar to when I close my eyes on Ketamine (without the floating feeling). I was very content. More importantly though, the experience reminded me how badly I really want to try this delightful substance in other forms! ;)

All in all, yopo seeds have a lot of potential. With more experimentation I bet those little buggers could really take me places. Unfortunately, I currently live in a college dorm where I don't have a kitchen and it is difficult to prepare the stuff without having to ask all my friends to use their stove (not that they mind :p). Not to mention its a ton of material to insufflate and I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that smoking it would be unpleasant. If you ever plan on trying it yourself send me a PM and I'll send you my recipe :)

hehe you got me all excited to have dinner with Ms. MeO again! =D
 
If you ever plan on trying it yourself send me a PM and I'll send you my recipe :)

hehe you got me all excited to have dinner with Ms. MeO again! =D

thanks! I will for sure :) I'm looking forward to hearing how ur experience goes whenever u try it
 
5-meo-dmt is going to be scheduled in the US now. I'm sure we had a lot of pull when forming the initial international drug laws and what-not, but when the US schedules new compounds do other nations follow? Cuz if so then this could turn into an international criminalization
 
All in all, yopo seeds have a lot of potential. With more experimentation I bet those little buggers could really take me places.
Isnt Yopo mostly bufotenin?

It's here. holy fuck

It has one hell of a presence.

Did you already smkoe some or are you saying just being in its presence is powerful.
If the latter, i agree...
 
Isnt Yopo mostly bufotenin?

I haven't been able to find a source which documents the average percentage of each chemical although I wouldn't be surprised if bufotenin was the most prominent.

Did you already smkoe some or are you saying just being in its presence is powerful.
If the latter, i agree...

I was speaking to it's presence.

...I did however insufflate ~9mg 1.5hrs ago and I don't know how to describe what just happened :?

I think I'm going to smoke it before I make any judgments.
 
Thanks :)

The batch I received is brown with some reddish crystals. Looks like I will have to convert it to freebase before I smoke it. Correct?
 
You're right...I jumped the gun on that one after reading an earlier post. :o

It didn't dissolve in water. Guess I'm in the clear.
 
Just want to state that I'm 'coming down' from my first few dances with lady 5meo. Began with 3 low dose smoke sessions Thursday night and ended this morning with 3 more low doses followed by 1 high dose. It's nice how quickly your tolerance dissipates.

L, lady ganja, and nitrous were present as well :)

I am very pleased to say the least. Stories to follow.
 
..hehe I've been typing nonstop since this happened :|

A lot of this goes without saying, but before you read about my experimentation I want to thank you guys for all your help. All of your guidance, pointers, etc… definitely helped me through my first trials. I can easily see that without the right preparation this substance could dole out some heavy experiences which might not be welcome to all. <3

Interestingly enough, I'm finding that actually transcribing the experience is markedly more difficult than with any other substance I have worked with. :?

Here is what I have consumed:
Thursday 11:42PM: 4mg freebase out of bulb. **no resin at this point although there were 7 participants in this trial, 5 of whom shared this bulb with me (2 others insufflated their doses). While I did weigh out my respective doses, there was always a considerable amount of resin left in the bulb after the first hit.
Friday 12:30AM: 3mg; 2:20AM: 5mg. There were a few resin hits in between, although nothing as substantial as the last 5mg measured dose. A friend ended up bringing over a nitrous tank at 3 in the morning.
Saturday: 2:15AM; I’m an hour into 4 hits of dank LSD. 4mg freebase out of new bulb **two smoke partners. I lost track of time after this point, although I remember weighing out two more low doses and one 9mg dose. Two resin hits were taken as well.

On that note I think I’m going to use an odd analogy (so bare with me!) in attempts to describe the ‘high’ I get from smoked doses.

0-20s Breathing becomes immediately labored, heart rate jumps. I release myself to the impending experience.

20s-3m Depending on the dose, the size of the psychedelic brick that hits you here may vary. At higher doses (6-8mg) it feels as though someone just threw a brick through your front windshield. At low doses (<=4mg) it is enough to be felt, although not generally that immediate and abrasive—more like some pebbles being innocently kicked up against your windshield whilst leaving a crack that can’t go unfixed. At this point I release any remaining tension and allow the varying body load to position itself above my chest.

3-10minutes: It feels as though the ‘pieces’ of my windshield are in the hands of an old friend and trusted teacher: I can be sure that I’m safe, but I remain willing and ready to hear what they have to say. The grip does not lessen, but instead lifts itself from my chest and redistributes throughout the rest of my body. The phenomena of the restructuring begins. It can be extremely uncomfortable at times, but it does not go without reward. I often take deep, life-affirming breaths that seem consistent with my state of mind: holy fuck. During this period I am usually fixated on the intense body load but find odd glimpses of intense euphoria and other indescribable feelings that come and go without hesitation.

10-30minutes: The restructuring is coming to an end. As the pieces come together, I find the body load decreasing, and a state of euphoria begins to creep in and make itself at home. I enjoy this headspace with my eyes open and closed. If you are to mix this with marijuana I recommend you do so now. Synergy is powerful, but nice. If smoked too early in the experience it can potentiate nausea and other uncomfortable side effects so tread carefully.

30+ Pleasant afterglow that can be utilized in a variety of ways. Nausea may or may not return.

Synergistically, 5meo is amazing with LSD. The effects potentiate my visuals considerably and the low dose body loads turn into a sedative, yet deeply satisfying body high. While watching the sun rise this morning my immediate field of vision turned into a mosaic unlike any I have seen on LSD before. The headspace is quite nice as well. I talked myself into oblivion with a few friends as I normally do, although tonight I also made some definite strides in some personal avenues that I have been working on as of late. I highly recommend this combo =D

As for the individual low-dose sessions themselves, I feel as though these notes should satisfy what I experienced. The high dose, on the other hand, is much more difficult for me to fully describe. I have written up some preliminary notes, although I'm still attempting to wrap my head around what occurred. I'll save that full story for another time.
 
No with 'yopo seeds' that circulate there are actually two different types in terms of content - one containing mostly bufotenine but also a little amount of side-effect producing alkaloids while the other type has 5-MeO-DMT with some x amount of N,N-DMT. Don't forget here though that in mgs 5-MeO-DMT is much more potent making it the prominent one is most all cases.
 
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