The Big & Dandy 4-MeO-PCP Thread

[gymstud]

I think you prob was its about as diffent as chalk and cheese with drugs your used to

And plugged means sticking it up your arse

 

[jimcharley337]

plungged

Ha - No.. no sticking up my ass. When I closed my eyes I felt like I was part of the universe, I had to open my eyes for the hallucinations to disipate. It's incredibly hard to describe. I would partially fall asleep and think I was multiple people of multiple minds. A multidimensional universe (the best way I can describe the feeling). Almost near death but the oposite of heaven. When I went for a smoke around 3am I saw wicked bright lights in the sky... then a clown or demon like figure in front of me (strong very scary hallunation). When I turned the lights on in the bathroom everything was very wavy. The vendor called to product skipping in AWE with MXD and other research chemicals, That phrase ran through my head all night. I kept saying I was skipping in hell. When I checked his website it said the reacher chemicals contained methoxydine but the spelling was methoxedine with an E not a Y. I figured that was a mistype? The begining really was not that bad but once I layed down and closed my eyes it was like WAM back to the multiuniverse. Very very alien and had a very evil or dark feeling. I feel like a better person for it, I now know what hell is. In a weird way I am happy to have experianced this, it makes me feel better about life, while sober.

 

[gymstud]

Yer I bet if you tried it again it be nothing like first time

 

[sdf]

I purchased from a reliable vendor, there is no dought I had the real deal. Use this vendor for many other RC's all of which have been legit.

The vendor called to product skipping in AWE with MXD and other research chemicals, That phrase ran through my head all night. I kept saying I was skipping in hell. When I checked his website it said the reacher chemicals contained methoxydine but the spelling was methoxedine with an E not a Y. I figured that was a mistype?

The vendor may have given you the correct RCs you've ordered in the past but that doesn't mean you should have zero doubt that what you have is 4-MeO-PCP. The dosing seems way off for 4-MeO-PCP. The misspelling of the name and the fact that he referenced/advertised the consumption of the substance seem fishy or at least unprofessional.

 

[psych@_@delic]

i found some capsules i put away yesterday containing 90 mgs. each, i had previously established this as the probable dose based on insufflation. Given the intense pain of snorting this chem, injestion is the preffered method. Also, some people got nasal infections after using for a few days straight.

I think this would be a promising anti depressant drug to be looked into, given that it leaves your spatial perception faculties mostly intact.

 

[Confield]

I see couple of UK vendors re-stocking 4-MEO-PCP HCL following the MXE ban.... Got some in the mail but just read this batch was tested by DDL and the results are 84% 4-MEO-PCP and 16% of two unidentified substances. I guess I'll wait for further info before I continue poisoning myself with dodgy chemicals... Meh.

 

[delic]

The mass spectrum of the 10% peak shows a weight corresponding with that of 4-methoxyphenylcyclohexene, the breakdown product expected when 4MeOPCP is heated. Since the sample has to be heated to go into the GC, it may have been formed during the analysis. I don't know what the remaining 6% is though, but it isn't PCC. With the increasing demand and trend in purity (33% in 2011, 86%+ in 2012) I hope we'll see pure stuff soon.

 

[Spacemonkey5000]

How does this compare to the 3meo version in terms of effect? i have some 3meo-pcp and sample dit tvice, it was ok but i prefer mxe for sure.

Just wondering if it´s worth trying or if they are so close it´s not worth it?

 

[TerrapinStation]

... When i closed my eyes i felt like i was part of the universe...

...

 

[Zazen]

^ That line should be in the thread title

 

[bongbongbong]

IV injection with 4-meo-pcp

Iv read quite a few reports with this and IM injection but i vcan't find one for IV. Im expecting a sample of it tomorrow and i plan to IV some of it.
From what iv read it sounds like a very similar buz to ketamine when done IM (which i am VERY familiar with so thats good)
I have IV'd ketamax lots of times and iv also IV'd MXE (before it was banned) and iv got to say the rush is out of this world. bette rthan anything iv ever uinjected as a rush.
Anyway, im hoping it fits somewhere between the two. any information or guidance would be appreciated
Jack

 

[psood0nym]

Just as long as it's not from this batch sold as 4-MeO-PCP. Look at the ratio of PCC (precursor) to 4-MeO-PCP. Yikes. Damned corner cutting sloppy amateur chemists. That shit is confirmed toxic and may really fuck you over if you've got the wrong batch, and unless you've had it tested you don't know.The comments even say it's the dirtiest thing they've seen, heh. I suppose if you've already tried it through other ROAs and it matches the right profile it says a little something, but if not it's a hell of a gamble with that dirty stuff having made the rounds. Because of the PCC precursor purity is important with 4-MeO, even more than it is with most..

 

[Buiscuitvader]

Not that I am condoning this to anyone, but i'd be interested in hearing this outcome. Only IV'd MXE, and that was more than an interesting experience. Stay
safe man, make sure you're extremely careful with your dose, i don't know about this analog but it says effective at around 10mg?? better to start of small and
know what you're gonna be in for.

 

[THC2LSD]

I'd be careful. IV PCP can cause surgical anesthesia for 15mins when IVed in doses when smoked/swallowed/snorted that would just get you high. It'd suck to be anesthetized/blacked out for days.

 

[ink!]

i'm gutted MXE drug has now been banned. it was fast becoming my favourite disassociative. i'd been a long-time ketamine user and eventually quit due to my trips becoming increasingly psychotic. i had a break from most drugs for a while then started taking MXE last year. i had the most amazing trips on it, and really thought it helped me in so many ways, whereas k eventually led to me becoming socially isolated after a while using, the insights i had while on MXE led to me becoming a better person while not on it too!



anyway, i tried 4-meo-pcp for the first time this week, since it's being promoted as a good sustitute for MXE. i was really disappointed with it though. i didn't get any of the euphoria i experienced with MXE, just all of the skitzy stuff i had with k, and the awful ear-ringing! no insights, no euphoria, just OES, CEVs and general weird trippy experiences. i wondered if anyone knows if you can get euphoric effects on 4-meo-pcp, maybe i had just been sold a bad batch? my usual supplier is currently waiting for stock so i bought it elsewhere, they assured it was a good batch but they could have just said that! for starters i heard 4 burns like hell when insufflated, but this batch didn't burn at all, however big the lines were. but it didn't take much to get wrecked and i did hole eventually. i was so pissed off with it though i flushed the rest so i didn't get tempted to try it again, and i've never wasted drugs in my life, however bad!



just wondering if any of you know of the dosage that can create euphoria (if there even is one) as well as disassocociation or do i need to be looking elsewhere for that effect?



thanks.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^Expecting it to be anything at all like MXE is your problem. We can't tell you if your batch was bad, just compare with previously reported effects profile, duration, etc. etc. and see how well it matches up. I'll tell you I quite loved this one from the first time I tried it, and I'm more fond of it than MXE, but I think 4-meo-pcp is more of a niche appeal drug.

i'm gutted MXE drug has now been banned. it was fast becoming my favourite disassociative. i'd been a long-time ketamine user and eventually quit due to my trips becoming increasingly psychotic. i had a break from most drugs for a while then started taking MXE last year. i had the most amazing trips on it, and really thought it helped me in so many ways, whereas k eventually led to me becoming socially isolated after a while using, the insights i had while on MXE led to me becoming a better person while not on it too!

If the drug actually gave you insights and healed your mental issues, you wouldn't need to do any more dissociatives, would you? Because the issues would be solved. I'm not doubting that you didn't become as socially isolated on MXE though, dissociative effects drop off really quick with acute tolerance and it mostly becomes stimulating IME.

 

[ink!]

^Expecting it to be anything at all like MXE is your problem. We can't tell you if your batch was bad, just compare with previously reported effects profile, duration, etc. etc. and see how well it matches up. I'll tell you I quite loved this one from the first time I tried it, and I'm more fond of it than MXE, but I think 4-meo-pcp is more of a niche appeal drug.

yeah you're right, i just thought it would be similar since ket has produced euphoria and insights for me in the past, so i thought all dissys would be able to do that on some level. i've read reports of DXM doing that too which i've yet to try. i did loads of research online before i got it, looking at trip reports etc and a few people did report euphoria so i started with similar a similar dosage.

If the drug actually gave you insights and healed your mental issues, you wouldn't need to do any more dissociatives, would you? Because the issues would be solved. I'm not doubting that you didn't become as socially isolated on MXE though, dissociative effects drop off really quick with acute tolerance and it mostly becomes stimulating IME.

hehe, good point! i guess the issues had the potential to be solved but but when sobriety returns all my conscious thought got in the way again! yeah i loved how on MXE you can still function and your heads still clear, unlike with ket. so it was great for having long conversations with people and chatting deep etc (which i can do without drugs of course, but the direction conversations took on mxe was interesting too).

 

[psood0nym]

The most similar "commonly" available compound to MXE is 3-MeO-PCE. I base this judgement not on my own experience but on the structural similarity and the averaging of my memory of reports of their subjective effects. 3-MeO-PCE is a much more potent and hardcore drug compared to MXE, if reports are to be believed. Don't, by any means, treat it like MXE should you decide to partake. Using this drug like MXE will not only be much more expensive but will also be much more likely to cause rampaging psychosis, IMO. Better to try to find a source for MXE that doesn't give a fuck if it's illegal in your area if possible.

 

[InterzoneAgent]

just wondering if any of you know of the dosage that can create euphoria (if there even is one) as well as disassocociation or do i need to be looking elsewhere for that effect?

thanks.

If you're looking for a substitute for MXE, this is not it. Although I much prefer this to MXE, but that might just be because i always seem to get much more dramatically negative and chaotic vibes from MXE's stimulation than rest of the population. I don't get anything 'positive' ever from it's DRI effects nor afterglow. Only stupor, hangover and psychosis instead.

If dissociative hole is a juice made from fresh fruits, then MXE is the blender and 4-MeO-PCP is the slower, softer and 'age-old-making-of-tradition-kinda-flawless' handmaking process which lets you see and feel just how many, in what fashion and exactly what kind of apples and oranges there are going into the mix.

It's now the morning after my first experience with 4-MeO-PCP and i gotta say this has, so far at least, been the gentliest and most lucid dissociative i've taken so far. That is not to say anything underminey about it's power which seems potentially very great. Overall enjoyment wise it beats MXE in my case any time but it also actually gives more euphoria (sort of) during come-up also, although it feels very neutral compound otherwise. If i continue making comparisions of it to MXE, i'd say it feels like it's older and more mature cousin. It's very different from K also, but not any way lower in quality of the experience.

Yes, neutral is the right word to describe this substance. For example, you can hear music better than sober but it doesn't really sound better. It just is. Same goes for everything else with this and about it. Worked great (hmm sort of...) for videogaming too - i could focus and get absorbed better into the games, thus increasing the success rate but not necessarily the enjoyment of it. It puts me very gently into a completely tranquil mindstate which cannot be described in terms of whether it feels good or bad. The continuous unnecessary mind chatter makes way passively to a state of pure contentment. It sort of boosts and annihilates your ego at the same time.

I took 100 mg's first and 200 mg's few hours later. Both times by plugging. Effects were noticable within 15 minutes and lasted few hours with a nice lingering afterglow the next day. Absolutely no body load, no hangover, no mania/overstimulation nor anything else negative. Very useful for therapeutic purposes but not really a recreational substance at all, although i can already feel the same kind of 'song of Sirens' lull to this as MXE (or K) has. Not so strong though. Oh and i didn't have any motor problems on those dosages really at all.

I'm gonna take a 400 mg or so dose someday (probably meaning today, let's hope not) soon and write a proper trip report of it.

BTW: Is this good for watching movies? I have tried that with MXE countless times but really succeeded only once because of it's insane nature. I would love to be able to get totally immersed into the movie. The 'breakthrough immersion' happened on 40 mg's of MXE watching Oliver Stone's movie The Doors (Very experience) and i've also had fun time watching various movies on comedown/low doses of DXM and K even if not totally immersed.

 

[psood0nym]

I think it's important for people to know that a likely impurity of 4-MeO-PCP is PCC. See this analysis of a compound sold as 4-MeO-PCP that consisted of mostly PCC, an extremely toxic chemical. I'd like to hear from those better educated than I regarding synthesis routes about how necessary PCC is as a precursor for 4-MeO-PCP as well as for other "common" dissociatives like 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE, and MXE. We don't have to discuss synthesis in any depth in order to name PCC as a likely precursor, and thus, likely impurity, in these compounds. PCC is a very problematic compound as far as I've read. If PCC is a likely impurity in ALL 4-MeO-PCP syntheses then it is likely present in far higher quantities per dose compared to other dissociatives that it might be an impurity in simply because the average dose of 4-MeO-PCP is far higher than for 3-MeO-PCP or 3-MeO-PCE. Again, I don't know if PCC is a likely precursor/leftover impurity in these later mentioned compounds, I'm just curious. The danger of impurities is always a risk in taking a drug, but for 4-MeO-PCP it seems that at least one of the chemical precursors that can be expected to be an impurity is an established health risk, and we know that at least one synthesis sold as 4-MeO-PCP is in fact mostly PCC.