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The Big & Dandy 4-MeO-PCP Thread

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Man see when you say that, thats practically an invitation to me.. I wouldnt IV it though.

I mainly bring it up due to the fact that I see a lot of K comparisons, and we all know K goes well via IM. So it just has me thinking that it may be an appropriate method here also.
 
Cloudy said:
Great report!!! I'm thinking about trying between 100-150mg rectally for my first test in a few weeks. This is makes me a little more confident on where I want my dose to be around.
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Thanks - I don't usually write reports but wanted to with this one since there is so little out there about it!

150mg seemed like a good starting point for me. If I thought that the heavy and slow body effect would bother me then I may have started at less. I was pretty much baseline by about 4pm the next day (17 hrs later!), and that length of time could be a definite drawback with this substance. I'm not sure if a lower dose would have reduced that time or not. For some reason I don't think it would have. The one thing that I think could have helped would have been taking it earlier so that I could have gotten some real sleep before the sun came up.

The afterglow for 4meo and K are similar to me but different. For 4meo, it feels stronger - like I am still pretty far away from my body. With K, I feel more present in reality but have more episodes where I will do things like open the refrigerator door and completely forget what I went in to get. With 4meo, even though I was still more "gone" I felt better able to function mentally.

Good luck with your explorations - let us know how it goes!
 
delsymfan said:
I mainly bring it up due to the fact that I see a lot of K comparisons, and we all know K goes well via IM. So it just has me thinking that it may be an appropriate method here also.
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That could be true, but it could also be a faulty assumption. K goes well insufflated too, but I won't be doing that again with 4meo!
 
Valid point.

Having not done K I cant honestly say much as to the comparisons. But how does it compare to DXM? That was my baby.
 
Ok... well here is my current state of things:

I dissolved 1 gram of 4-meo-pcp into a 4oz cup of bottled water. It dissolved quite easily, requiring just about a minute of shaking. Water was room temp. I am going to declare the total 120ml, therefore about 8.33 mg per ML.

I intend to dose a 150mg (18ml of my solution) amount tomorrow night orally. I weigh about 90kg.

Wish me luck!
 
This is one i have no experience with and would like to try. I have the ability to get it but not the cash.
 
delsymfan said:
Yeah I'm not bashing anybody who does it. Just trying to ascertain how necessary it is.

Again, any opinion on IM'ing this stuff?
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Bit OT, but I have IM'd 3-methoxyPCP without any problem, although the dose is significantly different to 4-methoxyPCP in that it only requires about 10mg rather than 150mg to get decent effects (and after reading the effects profile of 4-methoxy, I'd venture that the 3-methoxy is fare mor interesting - well IMO)
 
I agree it probably is, but that does shed some light on the ability to do the IM'ing.

Anyway I'm out of town so my "trip" is postponed until next week.
 
Cloudy and I got a shipment of this recently and are currently taking our maiden voyage. We're getting a taste tonight and redosing later this week once we are a bit acquainted. Both of us are plugging; Cloudy is taking 100mg and myself 50mg (I have very low natural tolerance to dissociatives) with plans to redose in an hour or 1 1/2 if I feel it necessary.

We both just dosed. First time I've stuck drugs up there...
 
How cool...

You guys ACTUALLY together or you just doing it like simultaneously... going for that whole "with you in spirit" thing.

Gimme a couple more days brosifs... and I'll be joining you soon!
 
We're actually in the same place (my apartment), he and I started our drug odyssey with one another many years ago and have more or less kept it up although we only see each other a few weeks out of the year these days. I ended up dosing another 30mg rectally to bring it up to 80mg plugged an hour into the trip, interesting chemical. We'll be giving it another go later this week with 150mg plugged each and it should be interesting, I'll be more willing to draw conclusions at that point. For now all I really have to say is that this is a drug (like most dissociatives) best enjoyed laying down listening to music with your eyes closed, which can be a bit counter-intuitive for the first part (through the plateau) due to the stimulating effects. And don't mix it with alcohol - after coming down for a few hours (we're talking a significant drop-off after the disappointingly short plateau that segues into a very long, drawn-out comedown) we drank maybe 6-7 shots worth of whiskey and goddamn does it disagree with our collective stomach. Which is funny since I didn't get more than a tinge of nausea for the whole experience prior to that, and even that was only comparable to morning post-waking nausea which is relatively negligible. This is coming from someone who feels sick as hell all throughout DXM, too.
 
Yeah my stomach is pretty strong. But I never drink on psychs or dissociatives. Just a personal policy. I find it doesnt really clarify your mind at all.

And I do love the whole lay down and relax and listen to music style of the dissociative realm. Doesnt sound bad at all. Thats how most all my DXM voyages were and I loved every one.

Very cool that ya guys trip together too.
 
Expensive? How so? Compared to ketamine, the price/performance ratio is very high. I can't find ketamine any cheaper, and it only lasts an hour instead of 12.
 
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