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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Four

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be carefull w/ your A.M as dosages vary extremly.... AM is a drug, when preped properly can be extremly potent and is such a dissociative, and cant "personally" find any use in combining these two...thers no way that you can can be for sure to accuratly measure your death cap dosage
 
Azron said:
be carefull w/ your A.M as dosages vary extremly.... AM is a drug, when preped properly can be extremly potent and is such a dissociative, and cant "personally" find any use in combining these two...thers no way that you can can be for sure to accuratly measure your death cap dosage
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Uhm amanita muscaria is not same as death cap, and ive been using fly agaric for over a year in the 2-5g range with pretty consistent effects.

I think therenis alot of misinformation out there about these mushrooms and they are alot more benign than most people think.

Although im not too interested in doses over 10g since then the experience seems to get very heavy and datura like.

Ive mostly used it for dreamwork and its medicinal effetcs.
 
Hello all. So here's the thing within the next week if i do not get a call on monday to attend a 28day rehab for my opiate addiction. I will be receiving a 1/4g of 4aco-dmt and 3g of mephadrone from a domestic Canadian supplier.

this will be my first time with both of these compounds, and i am really exited to try both i read amazing thing about iv meph and have read about some truly amazing IV 4-aco-dmt reports altho there dosent seem to be alot of them the few i have read have described what i have only dreamed about, as my location is atlantic Canada, and i know of no who has ever even heard of either of these substances no one in my area ever try rc's or ne thing new the basic things in my community are hydromorphone, benzos, amp&meth, weed and the odd e/molly , and occasionally mushies sum lsd usualy once or twice a year , and back in the day there used to be alot of pcp that we used to cut with icing sugar that was an awful tasty treat. But anyways to my point.

So i will be getting these two substances and plan on sharing sum good times with sum friends. And so basucaly i have not had any tryptamines in a year and a half or more. Not since i lost the remainder of my aMT. And have never experienced anything more the 7hits of good Mr.Clean blotter LSD about 5 years ago. there just never psychedelics in my part of the country except rarely and i usualy am unable of finding the time when they are here.

I have always wanted to try DMT, but this has never been seen. I long to have that type of intense experience, and from what i have read about IV 4-aco is that it can almost be compared to Dmt in the sense of intense full blown sucked into the universe. and i want to experience this. So basically do any of you more experienced psyconauts think that a first time experience with 4aco, if a decent IV dose of say 20mg or so be advisable? like i know thats kinda high IV altho i have read of up to double that dose IV but they were much more experienced with dmt and the like then i am. So would this possibly provide me with what i want as far as full blow immersion into pycadelia?
 
For someone who hasn't done tryptamines in a year and a half, I think IV 4-aco-dmt would be a bit too sudden, too jarring. I'd just eat it. It gets to be like DMT on high oral doses, too. The come up of my oral 26mg dose was very DMT-like. If you really want that, maybe go for a dose of 4-aco-dmt on the high side. 26mg was a lot for me, because I am 120lbs and just a lightweight in general. Perhaps go for the 30-40mg range?
 
maybe that would be a better idea for first encounter with this thing, its just what i have read about IV use, the intense initial rush of the come up..but i supose this could be due to the fact i am an opiate addict who is currently on methadone maintenance, and my preferred drug has always been iv hydromorphone which has a very intense amazing rush, and i just love coke rushes and rushes in general..and also i have always wanted to have a truly intense psycadelic experience.

So we will see i may eat it first or iv a basic dose to try it. defiantly wont be putting this in my nose. as i refuse to sniff most everything these days, i jut hate the feeling of stuff in my nose these days, altho a will snort the odd line of blow or hydromorp if offered.
 
Azron said:
I have Iv'd various dosages of this. Just remeber to be quick cause you will be transported to another place quite quickly..
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thanks for the tip azron...im will be sure to be quick with the rig..or at the very least have sum1 else inject me(although this is sumthing that i much prefer to do to myself.)

So when you say quickly, does iv 4-aco hit like say as fast a hydromorph rush comes on? or is it faster more intense ? i know that they are not going to be anything close to the same, im just wondering if its like same time frame of rush onset kinda thing.??
 
Not experienced with hyrdromorph. but am of heroin if it's anywhere near the same? It's Not so much a rush, but in 5 seconds after shot, depending on dose, you are litterally at +++ and in another world...no build up.... I guess you just need to be prepared... put your rig away safly... and enjoy
 
Maybe you need to reevaluate your need for a rush, Kaptain.Crunk. You want to quit heroin, right? Now I don't have much experience with that sort of addiction, but at least for the psychological aspect it'd be a great idea to break those kind of tendencies. Instead of looking for the extreme, look at what the trip could offer you. Not trying to attack you, your drug use or anything, but it might just be a good idea in lieu of the road up ahead.

Now if you do wish to proceed (and who could blame you, from what I've read it's an amazing experience*) just make someone is there in case you're gone faster than you anticipated.

*Seriously, I don't really like to work with needles, but IV 4-Aco-DMT/n,n-DMT is something I really want to try someday.
 
Azron said:
Not experienced with hyrdromorph. but am of heroin if it's anywhere near the same? It's Not so much a rush, but in 5 seconds after shot, depending on dose, you are litterally at +++ and in another world...no build up.... I guess you just need to be prepared... put your rig away safly... and enjoy
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awsum..well i should b fine then , as hydromo usualy hit around 5-10 sec and im always quick to pull out n stash the dirty rig'ns...i cant wait to try this stuff out, if monday would only hurry up(i kno im wierd, who wishes the weekend away?
now azaron see i find it weird that u have no exp with hydro but do with h ..i kno this is a 4 aco thread..but n ways..just i live in eaters..er atlantic canada..and hell theres never never any H around..like exclusively never unless someone personally brings it from across country or sumthing..yet hydromorph is everywhere u look..i find it strange that with such an opiate problem in my area yet its all prescription?...

kidklmx said:
Maybe you need to reevaluate your need for a rush, Kaptain.Crunk. You want to quit heroin, right? Now I don't have much experience with that sort of addiction, but at least for the psychological aspect it'd be a great idea to break those kind of tendencies. Instead of looking for the extreme, look at what the trip could offer you. Not trying to attack you, your drug use or anything, but it might just be a good idea in lieu of the road up ahead.

Now if you do wish to proceed (and who could blame you, from what I've read it's an amazing experience*) just make someone is there in case you're gone faster than you anticipated.

*Seriously, I don't really like to work with needles, but IV 4-Aco-DMT/n,n-DMT is something I really want to try someday.
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hey no worries kidklmx no offense taken , and i completely understand what u mean..and honestly the need for a rush has nothing to do with y i want to iv this substance..only what i have read about the rush that this causes only seemed to be a plus ..my main reason for trying this substance IV is to have a very intense and profound experience which i hope to take alot away with me to use as developmental growth of my spiritual side sort of this..and also i do not plan to take this solely for a rush..the mephadrone is what i will have to solely feed my rush urges lol
 
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bloodshed344 said:
I don't understand this chemical. 60 mg produced less of an effect than 35 mg did. So, I can't recommend you take 60 mg even though it did little for me. This one can be traumatizing for lots of people at doses above 15 mg.
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1st time I ever did this I went in at 60mg as I was told so many times it was the same as mushrooms (liberty caps) & a usual dose for me was nothing less than 3.5g & alot of the time upto 5/7 dry grams.

I began to feel the body vibrations in less than 10 mins (more like 5 mins) & the come up visual effects were the most extreme I have ever had, I was for the 1st time ever close to ringing for emergency help as I was scared.
I don't have to say I had one hell of a trip, when the effects chilled out a bit I liked it but I learned the hard way, the very hard way.

Kinda O.T. to the quote but this needs to be said, people that say 4-aco is the same as mushroom trips are talking rubbish, it is like saying pepsi is the same as coke.
 
^Lower doses are pretty similar though, it's only when you get higher that it's true face shows itself.

I hear you, Kap'n. If it feels like the right thing to do then, well, it probably is. But don't underestimate what >30mg oral can do for you, the 2 times I've tried that (so far, mind you!) will stay with me forever. Hell, even 20mg was very powerful for me

Be sure to report back to us, though. There's a few reports on IV, but not nearly enough
 
^oh im sure i will end up eating some at some point..but i def intend to have a look n see what a nice IV will provide as iv said i read good things that sound like what iv been looking for..and i will definitely post a report on my findings

i hope im not just getting my hopes up here, i just hope this source turns out to be legit..during my research on them on encountered one or 2 forum posts on this source , but they seem to me just to be an old source with a new face..on their home page tho they have links to all diffrent kinds of local fundraising events in the like, they even provide returne address labels to returne the product if its not up to your standards..they seem very professional...so i have my fingers crossed all is well!!
 
Took a volumetric dosage of 15 mg of 4-aco-dmt and started tripping within 20 minutes. Also took 120 mg mdma and really had a very intense experience on the come up, almost took a xanax cause I felt a bit scared but overall was an amazing experience
 
^^so you found it to be a good combo nintey? ...i am not much for mdma anymore..i think i exhausted my self for mdma years ago in high school..i have had it probably 1/2 dozen times in the last 6 years or so..and only one of thoes times it was enjoyable..and im sure it was the reall deal as i have done it alot..and everyone i was with was always rolling having a grand time but me.. now mind u this was not tested but hey i can usualy tell mdma..
but hell i had my days with her and have moved on, i dont miss her but i dont regret anything either lol

as far as this 4aco ..i cant turn back now ,,,it should be on its way ..fingers crossed and in the air! lol
 
> 0.3 mg/kg is strong, don't under estimate it! Have a good night rest and a positive feeling about yourself before you start, if not this compound will slam your face and kicks your butt like hell.

For those who used it, Im right, aint I?
 
progressive said:
> 0.3 mg/kg is strong, don't under estimate it! Have a good night rest and a positive feeling about yourself before you start, if not this compound will slam your face and kicks your butt like hell.

For those who used it, Im right, aint I?
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Totally -- this chem knows how to capitalize on your fears and insecurities.

I miss it all the same, though! It's been over half a year now since 4-AcO and I had an encounter.
 
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