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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

^That's deep hole or something worse for someone without tolerance, remember that guys.
 
I know it's the norm to take 10mg or less, that's why I'm so bewildered at my tolerance and/or this batch.
 
at one point i had a tolerance to where i needed 20mg+. only took a few high doses to get there... dose size seems to affect tolerance more than dose frequency.
 
I am at a loss to describe effects to people even after all this time. To say it induces mania is not always true and not a full spectrum of whats going on. Relating it to ketamine is useless. Even comparing it to MXE is useless. The first time I took some after only having toyed with it once or twice, I felt an LSD like intensity with mania and had a good run for a while, higher than I've ever been in a way I'm at a loss to describe. I get none of that now unfortunately. Not sure if it will come back or if my material is just crap. I miss the mania, I just feel sedated or out of it when I take it now. Are other people experiencing downer effects from some batches? Not trying to be specific at all, just wondering about the range of effects. It used to stimulate me so much, Im wondering if its because it's a different batch or if my tolerance is just fucked.
 
Yes one of the batches is sedating and psychedelic. My current one is way better than any stimulant or cup of coffee. Very clean energy without the jitters and crash.
 
Without a doubt, one variety of 3-MeO-PCP is not hypomanic to any particular degree, nor stimulating, and is more psychedelic. I am hopefully going to get some GC/MS results soon for both batches, and I'll share with the community.
 
So I holed on a very large dose...

I was sitting there IV'ing it, 15mg here… what the fuck let's get manic, do another 20mg or so from solution quickly….Load up another huge dose...

I'm guessing after days of doing high doses with some DCK use.. I ended up doing about 100mg's in a short period of time, <10minutes. I was insanely messed up in the head over something and turned into an IV freak. I've had experiences of over amping on meth because… I have no idea...

Anyways I TRAVELED to "the nurses station" after a series of intense tunnels.. It was as if I had died and knew about my life. Like I knew I wasn't dead and didn't want to leave my life like that.

I woke up not far from where I was in my apartment. I had strong visuals for a long time.

Lot's of things happened, you can find my posts earlier in this thread.

I want to do it again!!! I know I shouldn't touch it for a very long time if at all… currently prescribed Vraylar as of two days ago. Thinking about stopping it because I want my 5ht-2a receptor left alone.. Interesting pharmacology on that atypical though.

The medication was prescribed for mixed episodes bipolar, after telling the doctor and lead pharmacist I've met with everything over a period of time… like months now.

I'd rather self medicate with cannabis and caffeine and food….
 
^ After what you told us before, maybe you should come to realize that moderate, "innocent" dissociative or other drug use leads to some moment where you make the decision to dive off the deep end (I know how that works), which then escalates even further beyond belief (I myself don't know how that works fortunately).

Not to mention what manic episodes even without 3-MeO-PCP can lead to in general, you certainly don't want to trigger that - what people usually are looking for in this thread is hypomania, the difference being basically that hypomania is more or less harmless where mania is not. 3-MeO-PCP can lead to mania, but typically people don't come back perfectly alright from that, to say the least.

Maybe antipsychotics, antagonizing 5-HT2A and antipsychotic side-effects are the least of your worries?

I know it must be tempting to let yourself go and run with it, but keep focusing on the really messed up shit that happened that you told us about before to keep in mind why none of those enthousiastic feelings are in proportion.




I think personally I have semi forgotten about 3-MeO-PCP - i never think about it these days really, but come to this thread because I am a PD regular - because it's mutually exclusive to the dexamphetamine I am prescribed and am taking very frequently, and I'm loving what I am achieving... almost like I regularly have hypomania just coming from "drives" inside myself.
Maybe I will do 3-MeO-PCP one of these days, but I really don't have quite so much to win with it unless there are bodily sensations I would rather numb the fuck out of if that numbing doesn't lead to me worsening my bodily issues. It gives me a nice feeling, but much more than that messes with my functioning, as opposed to dex.

If 3-MeO was used primarily as a hypomanic stim and you are using other very good stims sustainably, the 3-MeO becomes obsolete?
 
I don't know about that, Soli, I don't really like stimulants much because I don't get much from regular doses and "euphoric" dose are not worth chasing in my opinion as they come with too much side-effects in my case... But 3-MeO-PCP, on the other side, apart from giving endless energy gives me a sense of "magic" and "hope" that I've never gotten from stimulants. Like it makes the future look brighter haha, not sure how to describe it. So I wouldn't say it becomes obsolete, but maybe it does if you want to use it in a purely functional way.


A couple of weeks ago I took some 3-MeO-PCP at a rave, and when I was coming back home I had this feeling that everything in my life was going to be okay, and that all I had to do was be optimistic and patient as things would turn around at some point. At the moment it was really powerful, as I had been having a pretty rough couple of months, frustrated about many things and generally hopeless. But after that night I've been feeling a true change in my attitude, and generally things have actually started getting better. I, of course, can't attribute the "good fortune" I've been having recently to the drug-effects, because it would be irrational to do so, but I think that the attitude shift maybe did influence in some way the decisions I've been making, and therefore the general outcome of things in my life. I don't know, it's like that particular 3-MeO-PCP experience gave me new hope and new strength and that was a big role in breaking a months long depression. I've never gotten that from stimulants before, but as always, YMMV. I understand is not responsible to promote this drug as an effective cure for depressive thought loops, but I can say with all certainty that in my case it was a huge aid - Although maybe any positive experience could have been?
 
My results line up quite well with Img_9999. I posted in pd social about it. This drug probably saved my life.
 
3-MeO-PCP has had such an impact on my and my loved ones lives. I see a huge therapeutic potential in it I will never stop the project of making dissociatives a legit treatment for major problems that humans experience, from depression to drug addictions. I will continue the work vortech started with him this year - these substances need to have the respect they deserve. There is already a lot of research going on about this on the academic field.
 
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Indeed, after smoking ganja and drinking beer daily for like 15 years, 3-meo-pcp helped a lot into taking the decission to stop the abuse and spare the usage only to very special ocassions. Also it helped with the regulation of dissociative abuse itself, before 3meo it was a nearly daily thing for 5 years (fucking ketamine and MXE), but since a hard binge on the stuff at the middle of past year I'm only taking them once a month now. I can see the light now after years of bad habits and depression thanks to this unique, wonderful drug.
 
xammy said:
3-MeO-PCP has had such an impact on my and my loved ones lives. I see a huge therapeutic potential in it I will never stop the project of making dissociatives a legit treatment for major problems that humans experience, from depression to drug addictions. I will continue the work vortech started with him this year - these substances need to have the respect they deserve. There is already a lot of research going on about this on the academic field.
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Indeed, Xammy and I are working out how to make a guidebook/reference manual etc. Like how to handle hard trips using all different kinds of tuning devices to create beautiful light and equilibrium. Music is a big one, especially the chill stuff that can help bring down the brightness of 3meo and fill it with a consistent flow. Another subject to tackle is integrating experiences and encouraging positive resonance that rings true long after the dose wears off. Battling demons with mantras, words as spells, to help people and put the shadow where it belongs. Fighting fear with love, fire with water, ya know, create a balance and order from the chaos. First inner peace, and then the purpose of helping others reach their own peace. Stuff like that is what we have been talking about today.

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Indeed, after smoking ganja and drinking beer daily for like 15 years, 3-meo-pcp helped a lot into taking the decission to stop the abuse and spare the usage only to very special ocassions. Also it helped with the regulation of dissociative abuse itself, before 3meo it was a nearly daily thing for 5 years (fucking ketamine and MXE), but since a hard binge on the stuff at the middle of past year I'm only taking them once a month now. I can see the light now after years of bad habits and depression thanks to this unique, wonderful drug.
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A similar story to my own! I have also put down the tobacco and alcohol unless for social ritual and lubricant for opening connection. I don't seek out ganja, but when it is passed to me I smile and take the medicine. Seeing everything as tools for what they are best for. It takes a lot of experimentation to figure it out as you have noted, MSK, but it is noble to take the path of self discovery and ultimately find your personal keys to creating a brighter future ahead. Another thanks to 3meo is in order. Like you MSK, I will likely be just fine keeping my usage cycle to once or twice a month.

Someone mentioned we should name it some other than its chemical name, but lets not get ahead ourselves, it is to be respected for what it is.
With that said, when I am in a funny mood, or around people who ought not know its nature, I call it tweet meow.
 
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I love to call it "treemeow" as it sounds funny, but I'm usually the kind of pedantic guy that like to name drugs as complex as possible. I saw myself in the past refering to MDMA as 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (what a lame way of wasting words) or MXE as 3-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE.

Nowadays I only do it when it makes sense, or if the nickname may lead to confussion, as calling 2-OxO-PCM desclhoroketamine/DXE or metoxphenidine MXP. That's just marketing to catch on non-connoisseurs.

I like to brag about my poor chemistry knowledges as much as posible ;P
 
Has anyone ever taken kratom on this stuff? All dissos seem to have a stimmy phase, but when taking 3-4 grams kratom, it can be terribly stimulating, like it hammers your adrenals somehow. Just watch out if you do.
 
I've decided that weed brings out the best in this chem, at least for me.

Last night I took 25mg (I know, I know - either this batch is not potent, or I have a crazy tolerance, or I'm just hardheaded to this particular substance or some combo of the three) and went out to a show. I was definitely feeling nice, that subtle kind of almost rolling feeling I enjoy so much in 3-MeO. But after taking some hits off my oil pen is when I really hit a sweet spot. The dissociation was still nothing overbearing (especially compared to something like DCK) after smoking, even at this dose. I felt very clearheaded, stimulated, and uninhibited. I love the manic edge, it brings me out of my shell and makes it easier to strike up conversations with strangers. I was just really feeling myself in general all night, and didn't even struggle too hard to get to sleep!

Also, I always love hooping/flowing on dissos, and this one is no exception. I felt sooo smooth and on point. And the mania makes me enjoy the performance aspect of it when I'm in public as I was last night :~)
 
3-MeO-PCP is the best dancing/flowing enhancer of any drug I've ever done. It puts me in a fearless place where I can just totally let loose.
 
It's funny that you guys are talking about it, because I also wanted to write about a recent 3 meo and dance party encounter in the nightclub.

I recently did a combo of 3meo ~20mg (4bumps) and ~1,2 and 1.4ml of GBL. and holy shit at one point it was like a religiuos experience.
I remember shouting random shit, curse words or ideas and concepts to random people. It was manic fun. Strong ego booster, this crazy low memory confidence boost it was absurd.. These two create an extremee euphoria that they are unable to create each on it's own. But at one point it felt like it was missing something and even thought of taking md or some other stimmy crap but hopefuly the sane side of me won.
At some point I got worried I might be in trouble because of some unknown factor which wouldve made this experiment unsafe but I was ok.
How really dangerous is it to combine depressand like booze and ghb with dissos?
It did have some uncomfortable comedown actually. similar to stimulants but I was able to fall asleep in like an hour. Feeling like a piece of metal. This metalic feeling. So weird so cool %)
 
I don't really think GABA agonists and dissociatives present too much of a danger, if any, besides the sloppiness that can sometimes ensue from confusion. That sounds like an absolutely righteous time though, nice!
 
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