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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

Ah well, looks like I need quite a lot to get off the ground, because 20mg did absolutely nothing :( Maybe 17/18mg rectally next time.
 
4-OH said:
Ah well, looks like I need quite a lot to get off the ground, because 20mg did absolutely nothing :( Maybe 17/18mg rectally next time.
Same happend to my friends last weekend. I gave them both 20mg after they both tryed 10mg the weekend previous and still no effects! they are starting to cost me a lot in drugs just trying to show them how good 2c-t-7 can be lol.

ahh well, i like being able to have a full blown experience at 20mg:D
 
4-OH said:
Ah well, looks like I need quite a lot to get off the ground, because 20mg did absolutely nothing :( Maybe 17/18mg rectally next time.
hey be careful i did 15mg orally and had absolutely nothing. Then I did 15mg rectally and got my lid freakin blown off...very very intense trip. I might suggest you nose that rectal dose down to around 14-15mg, any higher than that for me and I would have been getting very much more delerious (not in a good way).
 
Cheers for the advice, just out of interest how long should I leave in between trips?
 
There are MAO's everywhere in your body. In your brain, gut, liver, etc. MAO-B is also in your blood platelets. When you insufflate something, it'll bypass the gut, but it will still go through the blood, brain, and your liver.

Ok, makes sense. I suppose the increased risk of OD/death from 2C-T-7 insufflated is down to the drug not being exposed to all the extra MAO in the digestive system then?
 
I think the CYP2D6 enzyme is important in 2C-T-7 metabolism as well, and exposure to that enzyme would probably also be lessened through bypassing the gut. Also, due to the quicker absorption of the drug into the blood via insufflation the peak plasma levels of 2C-T-7 could end up many times higher than they ever would with even a significantly higher oral dose.
 
4-OH said:
Cheers for the advice, just out of interest how long should I leave in between trips?
I don't know man i've honestly tripped almost every day this week and I feel fine if not but a little over-emotional about things.

Generally though I like to space out my trips 3-5 weeks apart...any closer and I don't get as much out of it as I would otherwise (I still haven't integrated the last one).

peace
samadhi smiles
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I don't know man i've honestly tripped almost every day this week and I feel fine if not but a little over-emotional about things.

Generally though I like to space out my trips 3-5 weeks apart...any closer and I don't get as much out of it as I would otherwise (I still haven't integrated the last one).

peace
samadhi smiles

Cheers for all your help man, I think I'm going to try t7 again on Sunday as I didn't really get anything from it before :)
 
Can anyone compare/contrast 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7 for me? I've tried 2C-T-2 a couple times and found it alright, though not incredibly interesting. The descriptions of both seem almost identicle except for length of experience, but it seems many people find 2C-T-7 to be incredible and don't feel the same way about 2C-T-2.

For instance I saw morninggloryseed say that 2C-T-2 felt like poison and 2C-T-7 is his favorite. What's the differences between them? Same thing in the surveys posted by Illumnati Boy. 2C-T-2 was ranked much lower in "worthwhileness", and 2C-T-7 much higher. Yet the effects profiles were similar.

I've been through all the big and dandy's, erowid, etc. Still can't quite figure it out. Thanks guys!
 
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I ended up dosing 15mg for some reason. I seem to have a high tolerance for phens, probably because I am a fatass. Anyway, didn't feel a thing. I will try 25mg next weekend.
 
I found little difference between 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7, except for the visuals. 2C-T-7 had the most intense OEVs of any psychedelic I've ever tried, at any dose.
 
I find T-2 and T-7 to share a few minor similarities but mostly they are entirely different drugs for me... T-2 is much more introspective and intellectual for me whereas T-7 is more physical (not a negative thing though, just different).

Tomorrow I'll try to remember to add to this after I've slept.
 
FWIW, I found 2C-T-7 to be one of the most visual psychedelics I have tried, though one dose doesn't let me say much. Visual in more of a misinterpretation way though I feel...
 
Thanks for the replies guys! What exactly do you mean by more physical Xorkoth? I'm also interested in what a "misinterpretation way" means swilow? Like when you see a rock and think it's a person?
 
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I'm also interested in what a misinterpretation way means swilow? Like when you see a rock and think it's a person?

Yeah, but of a more "cosmic" nature. Perhaps mistaking water running, briefly, for flowing pure silver energy....whether they are actually misinterpretations or a glimpse of the Truth who knows? Its certainly beautiful....but can lose its granduer when you realise that your in ecstasy in front of a tap. ;) I actually find most of my OEV's tend to be mis-interpretation of objects, or extreme blending and flanging of objects, and then the brain attempting to find something in this mess...Though I cannot be sure why faces are so damn common. I understand the human mind is "programmed" to detect the human face, but why see it constantly in trails in the air, on trees, in the sky, in the walls.....? Hmm
 
2C-T-7 always gave me a combination of all of the classic visual distortions at once, and they were always intensified to a hilarious degree.

Swirling, rotating, fractal rainbows cover every surface. Everything shines, sparkles, and is covered with glitter. There's glitter floating through the air. Laser beams shoot out of lights and windows and mirrors and water. Anything that moves leaves composite images (trails) behind that take up to 30 seconds to fade away.

I sat on a sidewalk once and could watch the cars coming down a perpendicular street, from one end of my field of vision until they drove past the other end of my field of vision... and the cars would leave behind a dancing metallic rainbow colored stream of after-images of the car's tail end, so that it forms one 300ft long rainbow dragon... and as the car's front gets closer I realize it's an anthropomorphic face, and the grill gives me a huge Cheshire Cat smile and one of the headlights winks! And then as it speeds past me, its hundreds of feet long rainbow dragon trail slowly follows behind it, spitting pixie dust all over the road instead of exhaust.

2C-T-2 has visuals much more like 2C-B, 2C-C, etc.
 
I tried 25mgs yesterday with minimal effects.

I did however feel some uncomfortable bodily effects. My body felt cold and almost numb with my head feeling flushed and hot. Anyone experience this? It wasn't very pleasant.
 
Tried 30mg with minimal effects as well. No body load, though. It actually felt really good sometimes (like peeing and just in overall waves), but I wasn't tripping really. Maybe the body load from 25m was because I snorted a little.

I did 35 with a little more luck. A little nausea but nothing too bad (ginger gum is the best when it comes to nausea, I find). I really liked this compound. I only don't like that it takes so much to get me going.

What is the ratio for putting it up the pooper vs oral?
 
Glad i found this thread. what is it with this chemical? its too damn variable. 13mg did nothing and then 23mg did nothing except maybe a lil naseau. 30mg will be next. although thats the highest shulgin has in his book so that makes me a lil nervous. why doesnt he mention anything about it being this variable in people? maybe he does i havent read the whole book. i may have to look in to this plugging technique but that cant feel good at all, right? 15mg 2c-t-2 blew my mind with good visuals and sound hallucinations like tones higher or lower than what was suppose to be and popping and also this sizzling sound in my head that was kind of scary like my brain was started to sizzle but then when i stopped focusing on it, it went away. kind of reminded me of DMT for some reason. anyone familiar with that sizzling? only done 2c-t-2 once though. the body load was too much. my muscles and joints felt like they were put together with nuts and bolts as if i was in knights armor or something. anyways, just kind of pissed 1 gram of 2c-t-7 is yet to be of any use to me. any recommendations as to get this damn compound to work? take it up higher i guess?
 
I need high dosages of 2C-T-7 (35mg at least for a +3, used to push it to 40-50mg), where as I don't tend to need much of most other brother psychedelics (16mg of 2C-I was always fine, 30mg of 2C-C had me, and 40mg of 2C-D was sufficient).

That's just the way this one it.

As others have mentioned, it is a true gem. At least for me, its my favorite of favorites (I wonder how many times I've said that at BL).
 
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