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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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hey, so i have a capsule of 2ce, im not sure how many mg(maybe 5 or 8?), but its one capsule, its not competely full i dont think, anyways, people i know have snorted one of these and tripped hard, hit em in like 2 minutes, but i was wondering if theres possibilities of like a perma trip or anything, after a friend got stuck in an acid trip ive been a little skeptical about physcadelics, even though i know that RARELY happens, so can someone fill me in on what you know about 2ce? the negative effects and all? and how long does it last if i just snort one? thanks
matt
 
First thing you should do is find out how much is in that capsule. You dont want to go snorting an unknown amount of 2c-e.

As for getting stuck in a trip. That doesnt happen. Some people go insane after taking psychedelics, but that is not the same as tripping, and is caused by them having pre-existing underlying mental conditions (known or unknown).

Whether that will happen to you, no one knows.

Also snorting the 2c-e will burn your nose extremely from everything ive read, i've only tried it orally.
Orally it lasted around 10 hours for me. Snorting takes it down to about 6 hours.

Again find out what dose you have in the capsule. If its 10-20mg than you would be fine taking that orally.

Also im going to merge this with The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition).
 
Delsyd said:
As for getting stuck in a trip. That doesnt happen. Some people go insane after taking psychedelics, but that is not the same as tripping, and is caused by them having pre-existing underlying mental conditions (known or unknown).

Whether that will happen to you, no one knows.


Orally it lasted around 10 hours for me. Snorting takes it down to about 6 hours.
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Yeah, nobody gets "stuck" in a trip. Long term or high doses of psychedelics can cause HPPD, which is when you experience perceptual effects similar to being under the influence of psychedelics. In most individuals, this only occurs after repeated use (ex: tripping every weekend+ for months) or large (>10x a normal dose) overdoses, and the effects generally go away over time.

Most people experience it lasting more like 6-8 hours orally. I am able to sleep 7 hours after taking it, being effectively down by 6 hrs, and snorting it should make it somewhat shorter.
 
Been taking low ~3-5mg morning doses of 2C-E recently mostly as an exercise / weight-training companion.

Highly recommended.

A little Theobromine and Creatine Ethyl Esther for energy, low doses of Phenibut and Diphenhydramine as recommended here to reduce general Phenethylamine discomfort, add some Whey Protein, and I've been making some pretty good progress.

I find low-dose 2C-E to be a smooth, almost trance-inducing way to ensure lasting motivation during physical exertion.

About a million times more useful/safe than real stimulants.
 
this lil matey i kno thinks hes got got liquid 2ce but im pretty sceptical about it plus he has no idea what hes talking about most the time.. neither do i really.. but have u ever heard of liquid 2ce or is he jst mixed up???????????/
 
LunarSylph said:
Been taking low ~3-5mg morning doses of 2C-E recently mostly as an exercise / weight-training companion.

Highly recommended.

A little Theobromine and Creatine Ethyl Esther for energy, low doses of Phenibut and Diphenhydramine as recommended here to reduce general Phenethylamine discomfort, add some Whey Protein, and I've been making some pretty good progress.

I find low-dose 2C-E to be a smooth, almost trance-inducing way to ensure lasting motivation during physical exertion.

About a million times more useful/safe than real stimulants.
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Have you tried this with other phenethylamine's? Ive tried treshold doses of 2CI before but didnt find it very usefull.
 
liquid just means it's been dissolved in water for accurate measurement. it's a great way to handle substances that are active at the 5-20mg level, especially because filling a hundred little gelcaps one at a time on a scale is extremely boring compared to squirting out a measured dose from a calibrated oral syringe.
 
MeDieViL said:
Have you tried this with other phenethylamine's? Ive tried treshold doses of 2CI before but didnt find it very usefull.
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What you're doing at the time surely will have the biggest effect on how useful low-dose psychs are.

BUT.

LSD probably beats out all the competition in positive results from low-dose use. I think Bluelight even has a thread devoted just to low-dose LSD.

For a couple years, I used to take LSD 2-3 times a week for that purpose back when I was first studying computer programming/AI/physiology/neuroscience, and have dear memories of the benefits I got out of the deal. So that's the #1 substance I'd recommend for the job.

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The threshold-effect is all about keeping you in control of the bulk of your emotions/actions/thoughts, but to always have that subtle humming of energy potential beneath your perceptions which you can learn to draw from and use to make your activities feel more playful as you find appropriate. I've always found a playful mind to be best suited for learning and creative tasks like writing/programming/engineering.

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As for your 2C-I question...

Unfortunately, 2C-I and I get along very poorly together, so I can't answer. 2C-E is the only Phenethylamine that I've had positive results from.

For some reason whenever I take 2C-I, I get a frog in my throat (some kind of inflammation I'm guessing) that's as bad as the quantity of 2C-I I took.

I used to think it was just a general Phenethylamine intolerance, but since 2C-E has turned out to be so physically benign, this must not be the case. I know Iodine and the thyroid/throat system have a very close relationship, and have also heard of other people who have had strange throat-related problems with Phenethylamines (I'm guessing the Bromine and Iodine analogues).

I have a feeling 2C-P would be even better than 2C-E as a low-dose tool.

Will find out soon, hopefully.
 
MeDieViL said:
Have you tried this with other phenethylamine's? Ive tried treshold doses of 2CI before but didnt find it very usefull.
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I know someone who's found threshold doses of 2C-I to be useful for energy, motivation, etc. I guess different drugs work for different people.
 
Mr_Skunkyfingers said:
this lil matey i kno thinks hes got got liquid 2ce but im pretty sceptical about it plus he has no idea what hes talking about most the time.. neither do i really.. but have u ever heard of liquid 2ce or is he jst mixed up???????????/
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It's not unusual to dissolve 2C-X's in water if one doesn't have a scale good enough to measure individual doses (that's what my friends and I do for low-dose research chems). That said, you can't readilly verify how much 2C-E is in it, or even what chemical it is. I'd proceed with great caution, if at all, considering that both you and your friend don't sound very knowledgeable. It's not a drug to be taken lightly.

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For some reason whenever I take 2C-I, I get a frog in my throat (some kind of inflammation I'm guessing) that's as bad as the quantity of 2C-I I took.
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Funny, that happens to me (not bad enough to make me not take it, but enough to be annoying) on 2C-E, but not 2C-I.
 
TheAzo said:
Funny, that happens to me (not bad enough to make me not take it, but enough to be annoying) on 2C-E, but not 2C-I.
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Goes to show you never can tell...

I bet it has less to do with the psychedelic in question, and more to do with the individual's gag response and whether their body decides to trigger it (with the involuntary intention of expelling the naughty substance) as a means of coping with the experience.

Doesn't serotonin play a significant role in the gut?

Having to do with the gag/puking response, and the euphoria of post-expulsion. DMT in particular tends to activate such a mechanism (though not really in people like me who've gotten very used to having DMT flowing through their veins ;) ).

Or perhaps whenever a psychedelic user gets that frog-in-the-throat reaction, it's from the serotonin-like structure of the substance they took having an affinity for receptors that incite just the 1st half of the gag/puke response and then just keep "pressing that button" until the chemical's been metabolized?

So they feel as if they're sort of gagging indefinitely.

Boy does that not sound pleasant :\

I'm feeling lucky 2C-E/LSD/DMT have all been physically benign for me.

Choose your poison, eh?
 
@LunarSylph
I have yet to try LSD in such low doses, this however did reopen my intrest in using the 2C's in low doses.:)

@Allaround
2CI gave me some energie wich i found difficould to channel in certain tasks, so the extra energie was actually interfering with me, but its certainly true that differend drugs work for differend ppl.
 
golden1 said:
Last night, I took some piracetam, phenibut, and snorted a decent amount of 2c-e. After the burning sensation in my nose went away I felt a constant strong euphoria. It was a great experience, getting high made it even more euphoric.
I would say that combination is a winner, particularly the phenibut, but somehow I also feel that snorting it has less of a body load(for me at least).
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Hi! How much phenibut did you take?
 
1 gram of phenibut, 1 gram piracetam

keep the 2c-e dose low, I tried again with a higher dose and felt like I was going to faint constantly. I'm not sure what the cause was, but I had to stay standing or the fainting feeling would increase. Possibly I was overheating or high blood pressure... I don't know. All I know is for me, the constant feeling of being about to faint is one of the worst especially when it goes on for hours. Coupled with the obvious "paranoia" that I could die it was one of my worst experiences.
 
<20mg oral, the time I felt faint I took ~25mg. I would start even lower though or maybe its just a personal reaction.. not something I'd want anyone to go through either way.

the fainting feeling would get worse and then better in waves, exactly like how 2c-e's intensity has peaks, leading me to believe it definitely occurred because of too much 2c-e. I wish I knew why phenibut reacted with 2c-e like this, maybe something to do with how it supposedly antagonizes phenethylamine
 
Taking some 2c-e tomorrow morning. Going to wake up at around 7:00 am and dose so was curious what would be something good to eat and maybe wait a short while after I eat.
 
Well for me immediate consumpsation of food after I take a few certain chems almost always results in me puking my brains out for 30 minutes. I mean the earliest I ever really eat when tripping would be at the 2 hour mark(especially on 2c-e since at 2 hours the coming up portion is ending). I would recommend if you were to eat something soon after dosing it be something small like fruit.
 
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