The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

[Psychonautical]

2c-everyone.

Hey everyone, I purchased 1 gram of extremely fluffy 2c-e.
I have a couple questions.

1. So i have a scale, But, this stuff is extremely fluffy.
Is their a chance that, this rather LARGE pile that says 0.01 could be extremely mistaken.


2. currently i have in in 2 baggies inside a pill jar inside the fridge.
I read somewhere the refridgeration for long term storage is good.
am i mistaken?

also Roughly how long does this remarkable substance last?



Wanna hear a funny story?.

The first time i did this substance i was dosed 75MG under the guise that what i was doing was mescaline, as it was sold to me as that substance.
I peaked for almost 17 hours in a complete and total hyperspace of fractal geometry where it felt like i was the messiah. i could shoot dragon ball z sized color balls out of my hands. or be awash in a forest of living eyes.

I would tell people i was the messiah, i gave plenty of good reason as to why i was the messiah. but of corse as the trip came down i realized i was back to a relatively human form and I kinda blush about thinking like that.

I do NOT plan on dosing myself that high again,
However, i dosed myself 10mg with my girlfriend this weekend and
We both felt like we were devine entities//old souls. then the whole demi god and demon thing came out and we found ourselves locked in the throws of passion lol.

Shuglin really had it correctly when he said he became the eternal museum viewer, because with tool it felt like the landscapes behind our closed eyes that created themselves would disappear just as they each gained individual perfection and we laughed wholeheartly like insane gods or demons about how we were creating realities inside of our minds.



I really believe that 2c-e
the e will only stand for eternity if the E at some point stands for everybody.

this is one of those things that i found to be UNMECHANICAL unlike acid. Which is pretty emotionally devoid if you ask me.
it wasn't scary, EVEN the scary parts were empowering.
You feel connected to some kind of enthereal hyperrealm where wild fantasies of Angels are played out before your eyes.

Looking at the fact i did 10mg and it felt realtively equal to the 75mg i took almost 2 years ago astonishes me.

I know there is the Big and DANDY 2c-e thread but i've read alot.
I've read so much my eyes bleed lol Some good old interaction would be sweet.

I would definatly really like to pick the minds of a couple people who may have experienced ++++'s MORE THAN ONCE through taking this subtance.


In grand total i have taken it 6 times in 2 years.

3 of those times i took waaaay to much because someone told me it was mescaline.

It wasnt until last month that i actually found a reliable vendor and purchased 1 solid gram.


the 3 times when i knew what i was taking. I did 2 times alone i had +++ experiences with 10mg.

This Batch that i recieved as i said above is extremely fluffy.
Extremely potent. my girlfriend and i consumed 10 each (or what we presumed)
and we both and a ++++ experience where we became one and seperated from our bodies and floated around in a land of geometric clouds.

If anyone is interested i will at some time post my beliefs and thought processes i experienced mostly about the world while under the amazing education that is this substance.

Thank you for reading and giving me advice.

 

[Youkai]

what are you asking? the mods dont realy approve of these types of threads out side of there respective big and dandy ones.

but 2c's are usualy REALY fluffy.

oh, and I never realy liked 2c-e the few times I did it, I agve nearly a gram of it away. I found it to have a bad body load and strange head space. cool good visuals but thats not enouhg for me. 2c-b on teh other hand... TO DIE FOR!!!!

 

[tobala]

1. So i have a scale, But, this stuff is extremely fluffy.
Is their a chance that, this rather LARGE pile that says 0.01 could be extremely mistaken.

Since you don't have a milligram scale, yeah, this could be an extreme mistake.

...The first time i did this substance i was dosed 75MG under the guise that what i was doing was mescaline, as it was sold to me as that substance...

D00d, you need to do a lot more reading on mescaline and 2C-E before you dose yourself or anyone else ever again. So get yourself a copy of PIHKAL and start saving your pennies for an appropriate weighing device.

 

[Erebus-]

Psychonautical, I have had two ++++ experiences on 2C-E. Once at 50 mg rectally, and another at 45 mg orally. I am unsure now though that if these doses were wise for true psychedelic effects vs. what toll it took on my body.

I still have about 60 mg I plan on taking at once this summer somewhere in the wilderness, perhaps Yosemite. Is that a good or bad idea?

 

[Psychonautical]

Alright, Listen.

I didn't mean to make anything confusing or make you all think i am some kind of RECKLESS SPELUNKER.

I am really not. I do enjoy to reach the perimeter and jump off into hyperspace.
But not on every occassion.


I was dosed 75MG the first few times i did it
ONLY
because i got sold 25 Red Capsules from a guy downtown WHO SAID
they were mescaline. I looked on the internet at roughly how much i would need to do to even feel it and because these pills were so small i dosed myself ENOUGH to reach 75MG in retrospect yeah i had a ++++ experience all by myself in my apartment writhing around in ecstacy as my SOUL BURST INTO A MILLION GLORIOUS LIGHTS.

My thoughts have NEVER been the same after that.

if anything i would compare them to something along the lines of a Pink Floyd Dark side of the Moon album cover.

MY Brain: is the Triangle. Everyone elses, is a circle.
My Thoughts are the beam of light being direct consciense and straight to the heart of the triangle.

From doing 10mg only when i did the 10mg
I ACTUALLY KNEW what i was doing.

I had A ++++ experience.

Now I do have an MG scale.
But, because this stuff is so fluffy, and 10mg really looks INSANELY large so i halved it. Now herein lies the possiblity that i consumed 5mg
AND HAD a ++++ experience that lasted 8 hours.
is it possible that my scale could be lying to me, you know what i mean.

It's a piece of machinery.


I almost want to REdose myself again today to see if i get the same thing.

Like honestly i don't know how many times i have literally seperated from myself and went into an almost DMT like dimension.


When i am on it i feel like a GOD but i laugh like a demon.
I can create entire landscapes behind my eyes.

If it wasnt for this substance bringing me out of my depression
AFTER taking a 75MG dose thinking it was mescaline on 3 different occassions I honestly think i would be dead.

I have completed highschool, i am living my life honestly more effectively because of this substance... i think alot of people need to do WAY MORE research with this.

 

[Quebec Gold]

I'm only going to use it weigh the total amount.
I'll then use water to calculate my dose.

Isn't that OK ?

Damn, that new thread got me confused.

By the way, I would like to know the legal status of 2C-E in Canada. I am confused. It is not listed anywhere, and only some analogues are illegal in Canada. The thing that worries me is that Amphetamine analogues are illegal, and 2C-E could be considered an analogue to DOET (from what I've read on another forum). Thanks

 

[Psychonautical]

Hey everyone.
I just had another ++++ experience from consuming 10mg no more than 3days after my previous ++++ experience.

I feel as if i am susposed to be told something by this remarkable substance....

Tonight i am left with this.... please discuss.


In The beginning there was everything. There has always been everything, and there will always be everything. Since the form or essence of everything you witness has always been in existence in one way or another exceeding any boundaries of the human prision known as time. In this there was no definate beginning only constant changing. The beginning stated previously refers to the space that filled our universe long before the earth and long before life. Eventually, however the Earth will return to that space and re-emerge again in a sequence with no specific order but intendly based upon the same criteria of infinite impossibility. It began in the space from which every child is born, from which every seed is hatched and from which every soul returns to. It is a space containing any and all knowledge ever learnt or thought of. It is every memory ever kept. It is a space filled with nothing but pure energy. A Collection of eternal spirits or essences. A collective soul. Within this space of massive energy is a being made completely out of its own entirity. This space or being has a collectiveness and a conciousness. It is all seeing and all knowing and perfect because it is the unity of all in existence. This conciousness is what humans may call a god.


This "God" loves patterns as it has always loved them. THis God was filled with three main presences. The Good or Positive The Negative or Evil and the Neutral or Unchangable. In Human science these things have been catergorized as Protons, Neutrons, and Electrons. This "God" liked to put order to his chaotically energic form. This "god" arranged some of the energy particles into patterns within himself he shaped thousands of different variations. Patterns are eternal but they are all generally made out of shapes that are recognizable. Our Universe is Eternal and Repetitive. All things connect in patterns. God knew that the patterns could would and will continue to grow larger. "God" knew the different patterns would eventually take thier own individual forms as they achieved their perfection. These forms are the four elements we recognize most here on earth. Earth, Wind, Fire, Water. Eventually the patterns gained enough knowledge to create the very earth itself. In this God made from his pure energy our MATERIAL reality. As he had many times before and would many times more. This creation took only a second in the timelessness of space that is the distance between us and god. But millions of years in the comprehension that is considered merely human. God pushed the earth away and into the deep abyss of our physical universe. Our Material world was made to keep us away from the mysteries of eternal life. However god stayed close enough for us to see it, tiny in the sky during the day which then moves to watch the other side at Night. Parts of god or individual souls seperated from gods form and were born on this material planet in the forms of humans, trees, children, Flowers, Bees, Birds, All living creatures anything that can have a story. This gave the earth motion vibrancy color and life. Everytime a Child is born he leaves the embodiment of god for the body created for them here in on earth.


We are all Spiritual Creatures on a Physical Journey. The Distance that god put itself from us causes some souls to get lost. They contribute to the energy that blows the wind turns the seas brings life to the fires Shifts the Earth and creates the miracles of reality. Humans have learned to channel this energy to light their lights to fuel thier machines. They do not know what energy truely is and it is not their fault. The Humans that abuse electricity and power for greed will return to earth in the next life ONLY to CRANK THE GEARS OF the machine they have built. Each individual soul has existed long before the physical and material world you see before you. IT chose to leave gods form and it chooses to return to it. When someones life is taken from us abrubtly its because they are required to return sooner or later and the sooner arrived first. In this you must understand we are ALL GOD all together we are perfect. To perfect yourself here on earth is to eternally become part of god. Humans were made to forget where we come from. Im also just not speaking of your mothers womb. We are all programmed and MADE to be ignorant. However we are also made to learn and have knowledge. We are here for own self indulgence, to attempt to attain all the things we cant have while holding a metaphysical pattern. Our purpose to perfect ourselves it's our rigourous concept to achieve eternal freedom. Our ultimate indulgence is to exploit everything around us. Our ultimate goal is to achieve a kind of love or timeless understanding that is not found in our material items. WE Existed before matter. Remember Matter is fleeting as is time. Time is what we put on top of our heads to remind us about things that matter but to put a time limit on the matter means that no one can truely attain everything they think they can on this physical level of existence. All thing happen because they were made or were ment to. Outside of our earth there is no true time there is no true "space" there is no true Emotion outside of our Earth it is perfect. Live and Die and it will all fall together.


thank you...

 

[Psychonautical]

Why does this drug make me feel
like i could STOP 2012 if something bad was to happen lol.
Oh my me... *LAUGHING MANICALLY*

ya see i would say oh my god, but i am feeling rather godly right now.
and if my third eye were any more open i wouldn't have to look in a mirror to see myself, i'd just need to turn around and then i would be lol, One giant SUPER TRAIL of my torso.


lol...

 

[5meohd]

Awesome brother.. write a full trip report please !! I can't wait to read it.. and would also like to know some prior experiences... reason being, I had a much similar revalation off of a measly 2-3 grams (didnt know.. maybe thats the mystery) of cubensis.. but due to wrong set and setting it freaked me the fuck out... now I have some 2C-E and am scared to be "aware" again... man oh man I want to do some!!!

 

[Mr Blonde]

I ingested 20mg of 2C-E yesterday...

It went mostly well. Lets just say that at the beginning I was in a situation I didn't want to be as I was coming up, but I managed to get out of it before things became too intense. I spent a lot of time listening to The Beatles and Pink Floyd...and had some of the most amazing CEVs I've ever seen!

For example: I was lying there with my eyes closed, and it was like I was slowly being submerged in water...I could feel parts of my body slowly sink under, and every now and then when my head went 'under', the CEVs would become like a murky river. When I finally sunk completely, I was in a cartoonish underwater scene, with fish and eels all around me and light shining down from above. It was one of the most amazing things I've ever experienced!

I also was able to finally write some lyrics to a song I've been working on...and the trip also taught me a little something about the creative process I believe, and also made me reconsider certain aspects of my relationships to others.

Does anyone else find that a lot of the 'realizing' they experience about certain things occurs when a trip is mostly done? I was realizing things mostly when the visuals had faded, I believe it was around the 8hour mark or so and for hours after that.

 

[nativenick]

I'm only going to use it weigh the total amount.
I'll then use water to calculate my dose.

Isn't that OK ?

Damn, that new thread got me confused.

By the way, I would like to know the legal status of 2C-E in Canada. I am confused. It is not listed anywhere, and only some analogues are illegal in Canada. The thing that worries me is that Amphetamine analogues are illegal, and 2C-E could be considered an analogue to DOET (from what I've read on another forum). Thanks

i too am curious about its legal status in canada a source i get off was selling it for a while but then stoped selling it (apparentley it was in the process of being scheduelled in canada or still is). they said something about having an office set up in the states eventually so that they could sell it again out side of canada to other places where it isnt scheduelled. im not sure if 2ce being scheduelled in canada is all specualtion or if its along ways off still. but they started selling 2ce again recently and they have a limited stock. im eager to purchase some of this but i wont bother throwing my money away if it is infact becoming scheduelled.

 

[VerbalTruist]

Certain vendors don't sell things that are scheduled in the United States or Canada. Perhaps your vendor is the same?

If you're concerned about it the best thing to do is to not order it.



That way you're totally safe.

 

[cegli]

In Canada DOET is specifically scheduled. The law for DOET states that analogs are also illegal. So is 2C-E an analog? Probably, it's only one methyl away. Is 2C-I an analog of DOET or maybe DOC (also scheduled)? It's farther away, but maybe... It's hard to say right?

There isn't any current legislation to schedule 2C-x as far as I'm aware in Canada though. If someone were to get prosecuted it would be a landmark case, but as of now the RCMP doesn't seem to be very concerned.

I guess you have to decide for yourself.

 

[tobala]

^^^^ Well the reason DOET is illegal in Canada is that amphetamines are specifically proscribed there. Therefore, that makes analogs such as DOB, DOM, and DOI also illegal as they are also specifically amphetamines.

The 2C-X series are technically homologues of amphetamines, but not bona fide amphetamines, so they don't fall into an "amphetamine analog" category.

That's why vendors are able to import 2C-X's into Canada (mainly from China) without much of a problem. The issue arises when these vendors try to resell to Amerikan customers, as then the Analogue Act in the USA makes such transactions technically illegal based on the vague and ambiguous wording of the Act.

 

[Mr Blonde]

At least you've got it easier then here in Oz, I've only been able to get my hands on 2C-E so far. Our customs is pretty tightly run, which is why things cocaine and the RC's are rare and expensive.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

/me waits for some smart person to condemn Australia and New Zealend as facist, freedom-oppressing states the way they do of the USA, because of its drug laws.

(Just kidding of course)

At least you've got it easier then here in Oz, I've only been able to get my hands on 2C-E so far. Our customs is pretty tightly run, which is why things cocaine and the RC's are rare and expensive.

 

[Psychonautical]

2c-e is legal in canada.
There is an Upcoming Bill that could possibly make it illegal
But so far all bills being posed by the conservatives have pretty much been shot down in the house of parlament.

The way i see it. Canada is The true home of the free.
and the government tries to be father knows best.
But the citizens always show father that the children are the future and they know whats going on.

Mostly because the canadian media doesnt have the same amount of fear and oppression that the american media has.

 

[tobala]

^^^^ Well that's good.

Not to have every little drug-related bleep from the media sending soccer moms shrieking in terror.

 

[Psychonautical]

Psychonautical: Are you sure it's 2c-e? For example, 2c-p has a very low threshold.

Yes i am sure it is 2c-e. I decided i was tired of dealing with dealers.
Considering the fact every product i generally got after that summer 2 years ago was completely and totally bunk compared to 2c-e. I personally believe that this is or could be in some way a very sacred religious sacrament.


Like i said before... I did 75MG way back 2 years ago.
I felt, like i was technically the only person talking after that point on.
The reason why i got dosed that much, was because the person i bought it off of, sold it to be as mescaline IN tiny little red pills.

I got 25 of them. I believe i took 7 the very first time because i thought i got ripped off basically. They were really really like and didnt contain alot of substance (plus i had a better scale back then) basically upon ingesting that much. I was disassociated from my body and given a breif history of the world, through the eyes of the planet//gaia.

I can say my thoughts have never been the same. But none of my friends would call me crazy. I went from depressed asshole mean Psychonautical.

Into Happy, Open, Old, deep spirit Psychonautical.

Honestly, upon ingestion of 7-10mg on Saturday (first time in 2 years after taking 75MG 3 times Believing it was mescaline. ONLY to discover it was actually this. I basically had to convince myself that all of those trips that i had writhing around on the floor experiencing my soul bursting into flames were actually myself not dying in the past. I had a vivid ALIVE ++++ experience where my girlfriend and i shared the exact same hallucinations it was truely a symbiotic experience which allowed me to create that fine little essay thing i wrote.

I went on a trip on MONDAY 2 days after my previous experience with my roomate josh, we took 13mg each. I also consumed 10 mg of MDMA and 2 bowls of marijuana and i experienced another ++++ experience.
in the words of bill hicks "I experienced UFO's Splitting the Sky Line like a Sheet"
Yeah, i have never looked at an egg and seen a brain but i have definately birthed some amazing ideas by scrambling a few inside of my brain.

do you want to hear something Ultra crazy......


I went on an ayahuasca experience where a snake coiled itself around me behind closed eye lids. I tried to call for help but i couldnt. I stared at the snake deeply into the eyes and i felt as if i was one with the snake and suddenly my eyes opened and i saw a Phenoix//Angel//Machine Elf hovering over me. I heard Music playing and for some reason i told the angel i couldnt see the band. She told me i wasnt allowed to break through into their dimension because my ions would discharge the realm. I was told i was just as twisted as the caapi vine. Many... strange things...

My roommate josh was on the other couch and he said that we went into a desert of blue glass sand and got guided to a place where we was told what he had to do with his life.


But ultimately i feel as if 2c-e is My tryptamine. I know i didn't make it. I know i have to respect it. But i feel ultimate perfection in the universe while on it...

I need some other people who have done some mind research with it to help me understand why i am getting excessive ++++'s.

Like I honestly don't say or do anything crazy while under a dose of this stuff.

If anything. I maintain a more postive sense of control over my words and rationality.

Something is truely mysterious about this substance... i feel it is a Smart//Geek Drug.

 

[delta_9]

2c-e is definately my favorite 2c-x out of the ones I've tried(e,b,c,d). I can't wait to get some more and try it with some k. Who's done this and how did you like it? Any suggestions? I'm all ears