The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

[WaseFraKa]

long time i haven't read that definition...sounds more like an illumination or satori. drugs are a way but you don't need them

 

[VerbalTruist]

What makes a ++++ experience? Thinking you are god or some higher being? Contemplating the meaning of life? Or just having a really good time?


I don't know why I trip anymore. I'm not really getting much out of it these days.

I had my first true ++++ today. The whole day was spent being with friends and it was beautiful and happy. We were swimming and jumping off of rocks and exploring a river. I loved it. It wasn't religious at all it was just so happy.

 

[feelgoodhit]

yet again, for the umpteenth time, i am on the verge of trying a chemical i have been suspecting to suit my tastes well, 2c-e... it has fell through so many times before, i hope i somehow end up tasting it this time around.

 

[Psychonautical]

Hey , i dont know about you guys, but have you noticed that this stuff can make your ridiclously psychic if you focus on it. I mean in the kind of way that one would focus on television... kind of not really there... but paying attention lol..


Like i have noticed with this substance unlike mushrooms whose psychic wave is very warm and interlaced with a deeper complexity.
I find that 2c-e's Psychic aspect kind of just... makes you KNOW what other people are thinking//meaning.


Like listening to television static in the background noise...
you arent paying attention but you can hear it.....

If you pay too much attention to it while on this substance it almost feel as if you completely miss the grounds of that terroritory.....

I shared alot of strange and enlightening emotions through a little as a few blinks while my roommate and i were using music as a medium.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^

I haven't gotten that aspect of 2C-E yet, all of my trips with her except one have been solo, and that time I shared with a friend was mostly just a fun experience, nothing too deep.

I have had that psychic-sharing with LSA though, I was playing organ and my friend was talking about shit...it was like the music and his words totally connected, and I knew exactly what he was talking about and what he was gonna say before he said it.

 

[L1000]

Hi:D

I insufflated about 20 mg of 2C-E yesterday, first time with such a large dose for me.

At the peak of the experince there was this "merging" of the senses mentioned by Xorkoth, I was laying in my bed thinking how about how well the the music merged into the way the paintings on my walls looked, until I realised my eyes were actually closed... 8)

Anyways, I got the impression that there was only a single component of thought missing to make this flow of sensations totally "complete", or perfect; and I began to desperately search for that missing piece... It was like I was only half a step away from becoming one with the universe and gaining absolute realization about the meaning of existence, or how you'd put it...

Has anyone else experienced this 'almost completeness'? Felt really weird I tell you.

The trip was mostly very enjoyable, although I probably won't try it again for a while.

Mmm, I love this substance

Peace

 

[Erebus-]

Psychonautical, I know what you're saying. Social dynamics become so pronounced, that's where your psychic abilities come into play. Three of the four times I have used 2C-E it was with other people, and most of the time, we did not speak, because it would be redundant and annoying to state thoughts that all of us already shared/had. Sociability is not easy on this drug because you figure, why say something everyone should know by now, and because of the body load.

 

[Psychonautical]

Hello there. Yesterday i consumed 25mg of this substance.
I was having an awesome afternoon with my roommate josh.
My girlfriend Came over at 4 in the afternoon and Josh and i were actually using sam as a medium so we could bounce our radical ideas off her realitively sober mind.


Anyways around 7 o clock i decided that i was going to have a shower.

I guess you could say i have having a quite the adventure in the shower. Making each drop feel like it was Tear From God Opening me deeper on every level.

Anyways Sam was starting to get worried because i had been in there for a long time.

"Now... right at the point when she started to get worried."
This was when SHIT on my END turned FUCKED

I Noticed it, but i didnt know what it was. I was looking at different patterns and stains in my bath tub and i noticed they were immediately starting to get sinister then suddenly from one of the stains appeared a 4 inch tail tiny little black devilish looking person who just turned and looked at me... straight into the third eye... like i had been grabbed ahold by it.

I Called Sam to come into the bathroom and i told her i thought there was something wrong with me... mind you this is after 6 hours of trippage.

Anyways she was in there and she was worrying about me wondering if i needed to "come down" or anything like that. I told her no, no.

So I started pacing the house frantically.
Then I told Sam and Josh(who was kind of confused as to why i was acting so... erratically That we should go outside for a long walk.

So we went outside for a long walk and everytime i thought i figured out what was wrong... Sam would ask me Are you Okay now but immediately after in the back of her mind she would start worrying and it would come RIGHT BACK...


Now i have been with sam for over a year. We have a perfect realtionship.

However... she has a Anxiety Disorder.

Now when Sam called her mom and started talking to her... i noticed i felt awesome. I felt great. I didnt feel this stuck circle inside of my brain.

So i told Sam she was worrying it was her worrying that was throwing me off.

Then she got upset and started asking me if she should leave (at this point my trip went from Angellic which it was for the first 7 hours into Dementia Central.
I was getting absorbed by dark patterns constantly analysing me for SOMETHING that could be wrong...

I basically had to convince myself i was dying of a piece of glass that got stuck in the bottom of my foot and was slowly working it way through my body into my heart.


Now if it wasnt for me doing that and actually making a problem. I would have continously been stuck in that anti lock cycle.

So basically we came home after this walk of many hellish confusions and Sam and I Lied back down in my room...

Into sheer maddness... i honestly felt like i had just taken a handful of Absolute shitmind mother fuck crazy pills and i had just tripped myself into this state and i wasnt coming out...

So Sam called her mom again... and this time i felt relieved once again.

I didn't say anything to her i just lied on the bed holding her close....


The second she got off the phone she started worrying
and i said

YOU'RE WORRYING

And shes like.... what.... how....

I told her that her worrying was causing me to manifest into actual forms before my eyes. Her Psychic energy dedicated to worry is set on Mother fucking over drive....


Like Her Anxiety//Worry. Mixed with my excessive open mindedness caused the devil... or a less imp to actually MANIFEST out of a STAIN in my Bathtub.

I started to explain to Sam exactly how it felt.

It felt like i have to continously ride this GreenSpring of ridiclously analysis in order to make my body realize nothing was wrong.

BUT because Sam was the Medium for the Worry
And i told josh we should utilize Sam as a proper medium.

That the Second she started worrying... hell on earth froze over inside of my mind...

This was MORE than just a Psychic Phenomena

This was actually taking the feeling of someone elses Mental disorder and feeling it try to manipulate your system...


It has nothing to do with Sam... Sam honestly doesnt have any control over of her worries...

(believe it or not the only time she told me she wasnt worrying was when her and i tried 2c-e 2 weeks ago)


anyways.... wrap your head around that....

also....

My Roommate Josh and i spent the afternoon...
Smoking Bills (cigarettes)
and Coughing up change (his children)

Hunter was there we were chasing Rascally rabbits silly bastards just kept on bouncing all over the place....

 

[Xorkoth]

^^ Interesting post. My fiance has an anxiety disorder too, although I don't think she admits it to herself. I totally agree with the anxiety of others affecting you... in fact, that's why group tripping can be so difficult sometimes. If one person starts getting weirded out, it's hard to prevent it from moving to everyone else.

 

[Psychonautical]

Funny thing above is... Sam Was Sober.
Me and my roommate Josh were not.
We were using her soberness as like an anchor or a medium to things normal.
yet her worry being normal for her seeped into me out of connection lol.

 

[lastnight]

^^ Interesting post. My fiance has an anxiety disorder too, although I don't think she admits it to herself. I totally agree with the anxiety of others affecting you...

my sister has anxiety and panic disorder.
i spent a day with her once - me tripping, her sober.
i experienced most/many of the symptoms she complains of. these very well could've been effects of what i'd taken (DOx), but i felt assured that i was experiencing through her perspective.

lights were intensely bright,
i felt confusion, restlessness, emotionally upset/impatience,
i felt mild dissociation, as well as distortion of my body.

while some of the effects lingered, the majority manifested themselves only while i was in her presence (especially the intensity of light).

anyone else have a similar experience?

in fact, that's why group tripping can be so difficult sometimes. If one person starts getting weirded out, it's hard to prevent it from moving to everyone else.

definitely.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ word to that post. Interesting stuff again I say.

I experience this sort of thing around certain people especially if I am myself a little bit unstable (from time to time I get off my rocker a little). People that are anxious/paranoid/negative will affect me very greatly and I have made it a point to never trip around these people!!!

 

[Mr Blonde]

Psychonautical: That long post about your experience was wonderful, I got very into it! I hope that you and your girl can work through her anxiety issues...

Can anybody say anything about their 2CE + MDMA experiences? I've not seen much mention of this but it seems like it has a lot of potential. I was thinking about taking the 2CE and coming up on it (getting through any little bit of nausea) then taking the MDMA.

I haven't personally tried it, but I've heard the body load is intense. And I've heard that experiences where the 2C-E was taken on the MDMA comedown were much more intense, something I might try if anyone here can confirm it...

 

[Riemann Zeta]

DOI was interesting and quite enjoyable; but for me, it didn't feel as cognitively transparent as LSD and lacked the beneficial nootropic effects that the ergoloids seem to have. The 16-20 hour trip was also rough on the body...definately exhausting. It certainly was pretty, though.

It's been a few years since I last tried a substituted amphetaminergic psychedelic--and I'm not sure if I would want to try one again, considering the overwhelmingly positive response I have received from the ergoloids.

 

[Obyron]

^^ I feel that. If I had ready access to LSD, I surely wouldn't bother. I genuinely like DOI, but I also genuinely like LSD more!

 

[Riemann Zeta]

I think I also like ergometrine and N-(alpha-hydroxyethyl)-lysergamide more than the phenethylamine psychs.

 

[Iodjini_dk]

Ergometrine is a phenethylamine as well

Hmm, perhaps I should spend my time being a bit more constructive and stop bothering people with this kind of crap...

 

[Psychonautical]

Dude this is no body load.
I swear the body load is all based upon the music you listen to.
heavy songs = heavy feeling + heavy deep dark visuals.

Also i would like to recap on something...

 

[Xorkoth]

^^ And that something is...?

 

[adrian89987]

hahaha, I was reading this post earlier and I was thinking the exact same thing


...got me on the edge of my seat and all