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No way 50mg does that manI hope next time I break out the 2C-C that 50mg floors me. At this point it's such a gem to me it's hard to justify use![]()

Or finally break out that 2C-B

No way 50mg does that manI hope next time I break out the 2C-C that 50mg floors me. At this point it's such a gem to me it's hard to justify use![]()
Yeah,Yeah 2C-C is lovely stuff, I almost always have a very useful, warm, but deep and useful introspection. It's very emotional and can be confronting even, but in a gentle, loving way. It's also great for recreational purposes. Quite a bit gentler than 2C-B even. less visual, but rather similar. However I find 2C-C's emotional/introspective thing to be much more directed and useful than 2C-B's mental state. I also find it just around the same potency as 2C-B, maybe just slightly less potent. Old reports mostly seem to suggest it's worthless below 50-60mg, but I disagree. In fact I have never taken it that high, I think my max was 45mg once and I was tripping hard.
I must admit, if I were asked today what would be a good 1st time psychedelic experience, I would actually choose 150ug of AL-LAD.Yeah,
I have now a similar opinion/experience to yours,
I barely have experience with it, just one dose, of a pill that supposedly has/had 30mg..
I kinda like it, but the set/setting was honestly very deficient. I just had the typical psychedelic "craving" that one has when you have a new compound and you have been pretty busy, and then you're not... and even if you have something urgent to do, it's not urgent enough not to take the substance, I don't know if you can picture those moments..
I knew that the moment was not perfect, because I was going to travel next day, quite early, and the travel arrangements like the baggage was not completed.
But.. I thought that I could do it calmly even when on the substance, it happen that way, but it "killed" the substance character in a way.
I felt that 2C-C it's very "malleable", because I could feel sober and without visuals if I liked, and only during 30-40 minutes during the peak it was difficult for me to form thoughts or phrases/conversations exactly the same as sober.
I never tried any other psychedelic that does not change the mindset/thought form as little as 2C-C.
As you said, the main characteristic is the emotional openness that resembles MDMA or 6-APB, but in a psychedelic way, not very different than mescaline, the other only phenetylamine that I tried (well, calamus has phenethylamines too, but...).
I thought that I was almost sober, after 2 hours and a half and I started feeling pretty dissapointed as the visuals only lasted 20-30 minutes, during the end of the come-up phase that was pretty odd. I was wrong because I suddenly felt super sad, but not in a bad way, I was just confronting my grandfather death, that was like a father for me, as I was raised by him, instead of my real father (that flew by when I was very young). It was very very emotional and dramatic, because I felt that I was not really open emotionally talking, during the last period of my life, probably because I used kratom, and I realized it was because living with a BPD partner it's just too much for me, for my emotional stability, but that has also affected my emotional openness, needed to address certain very important events, like my grandfather death, that happent +3 years and a lot of other things...
I was alone for some days in my grandparents home, and it happen there, obviously the setting was crucial in that point but I guess it's something about the substance, that creates some body high and mental serenity/peace, that allows the difficult emotional shit to arise to the surface, which seems SUPER therapeutic, as other BL'er has said, I agree a lot on that.
It seems to me very therapeutic and I see that it can be quite deep in larger doses. I don't know if the pills were underdosed or what, maybe they are not, but I think I would enjoy more 40-50 mgs to have a broader, more complete trip.
For that same reason I DON'T think that it's the better substance as a introductory/first time psychedelic, because there's a lot of people with emotional traumas and shit like that that could go mad if suddenly confronted with it, even if the very nature of the substance is gentle and compassionate... I think low dose (10-15mg) of 4-ho-met would be better for a lot of people, and perhaps for others this substance would work perfectly, not for everyone.
The visuals were elusive and very short-lived but they were marvelous and like nothing I've seen before, covering all my visual field, very natural (in terms of credibility) and very intrincate, complex fast changing nets like arabesques and metallic/"sci-fi inspired" in feeling.
The body high was very interesting, warm and all-encompassing, with some kind of opiate like (but more "shield-like" and not "blanket-like") feeling.
At the beginning it was VERY sexual, with some curious sensation that started in the chest and quickly goes down to your genital area, like "waking up" your sexual urges, making you very aware of your "power" and inviting you. Strangely enough I didn't masturbate nor wanted to do anything sexual, like when I do NEP or yohimbe, but I feel that if I were with a woman, then I would have liked to do it...
Well, finally this comment seems more like a trip report, but I let it here, I guess. The trip was pretty short (maybe because of using low dose 3-FEA only 2 days before), around 3 hours n something. I would like to use it again, as I said with larger doses.
No never had 2c b unfortunately. My phenylthylamine experience is minimal (once 2ci and one lackluster 2ce underdose). I will Start at 30 and if it seems light at an hour I’ll had 15 perhaps.Yeah. 30mg orally is really nice. I did quite a bit more than that and it still stays pleasant and with minimal or no body load.
I never pushed it as much as some of my friends but it’s a really forgiving substance. Friend who took 60mg said it was like an uber lethargic but really nice.
Did you tried 2c-b? If you did I would start with a same dose you like with 2c-b. I think you could say it’s about or even more potent by mg but also even more forgiving and with less body load, completely different experience otherwise tho.
Did you experienced strong visuals at that dose? Way you took it in 3 doses probably didn’t change whole experience that much (except come up) than if you took it all at once and you should have experienced quite intense visuals.Took 30mg, it started off nice at an hour in, added 15mg, then figured I might as well finish the last 15mg. So 60 in all over 1:30 minutes. After the initial euphoria, waves of tingles and creepy crawly vision it just sort of petered out into nothing interesting. I was amazed that my capacities to play piano weren’t too technically diminished. Nothing I did felt good or fun. Just off. Oh well, I’m glad I bought so little! Definitely not gonna try the 2C-D I bought any time soon.
Would agree on this exactly. It is also noticeably shorter than LSDgood 1st time psychedelic experience, I would actually choose 150ug of AL-LAD
Honestly they are not very similar at all. 2c-c last noticeably longer 8hrs?, has a bit of a spacey floaty feel and I could almost say the same thing about visuals, I find they are a bit blurry and dreamy. The most intense visuals i ever got from it, colors were floating and spilling out of my tv and drifting across my room like smoke. That was actually a little alarming. But I typically dont get much fractal patterning, Most of my trips with it have been positive, but I've also had a few where I felt off and asked myself why did i do this. Also, while i do find it empathogenic, i dont find it necessarily euphoric. Generally it doesn't really enhance communication though I might communicate w more emotion.Definitely not gonna try the 2C-D I bought any time soon.
That's def a whole new realm haha, not sure what that combo would be like either, but ketamine and 2c-b was great.Still haven’t mixed dissos with psychedelics.
I think I read you're in EU, which IME 2C-B has always been more plentiful and popular than in the US. It is very slowly becoming more and more accepted here.You might get lucky both of those are making the rounds in the USA kind of in a big way.getting ahold of is 2cb and mescaline
That sounds pretty amazing, glad I saved 2 doses lolwhile on TMA-2 it’s more of serious psychedelic love making
Yeah I classify 2cc and D together in my mind just as less cheered 2cx’s. Anyways I probably won’t take 2cc again because after that experience I’d rather not risk wasting an evening just to see if I like it at a different dose, especially given I have a shit ton of other molecules I tried and do like and new ones that I want to try.Would agree on this exactly. It is also noticeably shorter than LSD
Honestly they are not very similar at all. 2c-c last noticeably longer 8hrs?, has a bit of a spacey floaty feel and I could almost say the same thing about visuals, I find they are a bit blurry and dreamy. The most intense visuals i ever got from it, colors were floating and spilling out of my tv and drifting across my room like smoke. That was actually a little alarming. But I typically dont get much fractal patterning, Most of my trips with it have been positive, but I've also had a few where I felt off and asked myself why did i do this. Also, while i do find it empathogenic, i dont find it necessarily euphoric. Generally it doesn't really enhance communication though I might communicate w more emotion.
2C-D on the other hand much shorter (4hrs), definitely has a minor but very clear stimulation. Vibe is much sharper and again so are the visuals., at 50mg at least all color is hyper saturated broaching neon, and I get minor geometric patterning. It's also great for socializing and communicating is clear and easy. It does have a minor euphoric component, but probably less in the empathogens realm. Out of every phenethylamine I've tried, it has the clearest headspace.
Out of the 2, I would personally probably pick 2C-D much more often. It's much more versatile and imo forgiving.
My one negative experience with D was snorting 25mg at the Grand Canyon. Instead of increasing my awe and beauty, it just made me feel like I was an infinitesimal little meaningless speck in the grand scheme of things.
Also despite what shulgin says about it being tofu, I find it a proper psychedelic of it's own, at higher dose. If I had any more, I would probably take it by itself at 100mg. I've never combined it with anything, but I I def see it going great with 2cb, or MDxx
That's def a whole new realm haha, not sure what that combo would be like either, but ketamine and 2c-b was great.
I think I read you're in EU, which IME 2C-B has always been more plentiful and popular than in the US. It is very slowly becoming more and more accepted here.
yeah, that's exactly my problem..nfortunately the only other one I see myself getting ahold of is 2cb and mescaline because the others it seems you need to know a chemist to get them these days. I spent a couple decades taking acid and shrooms, completely unaware that all these wonderful drugs existed, so I missed out on a lot of them while they were on the gray market. So now I can easily get any number of exotic tryptamines (European market is pretty banging for that) but almost no PEAs.