The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[pandahaze]

How many ugs of 25i will make you have decent visuals to the point where I am impressed of what I'm seeing? Edit::: for a 170 pound male

I would say starting from 1-1,2mg.

 

[SpikeBall]

I apologize in advance if this question was already answered, but I have done a ton of reading, I got most of my questions answered regarding this compound, but I do one one question I couldn't find an answer to:

Let's say I have 10 mL solution of 25 I at a concentration of 5 mg/mL, the 25 I was in free base form, and was dissolved in water and vinegar, and the solution is homogenous. This means that 0.1 mL contains 500 ug of active 25I. I plan to add 0.1 mL to a single blotter, and use that to dose myself. How dry should that blotter be before beginning the dosage? Would it be okay to begin the dosing right after adding the .1 mL to the blotter, or is there an amount of time I should wait?

I am planning on dissolving the 25I free base in water and vinegar. If it doesn't come out to exactly 5 mg/mL, I will adjust how much solution to add to a single blotter from there. I know I also need to verify how much liquid a single blotter will hold before doing this.

Thanks everyone!

 

[trappedpenguin7]

I have done a lot of research and am still confused onto how this process works. If I was to have 1 gram of 25i freebase. I first need to convert that to hcl. I am confused the easiest way to do this. I keep reading about white vinegar...so if I'm correct, I would dissolve 1 gram into 4ml of white vinegar. Then once that is done, dissolve it into isopropyl alcohol (91%?) and then spread that onto the blotter? I'm very confused about this process and I'm sure I sound like an idiot. Can someone send me a link to step by step instructions on how to do this correctly? Much appreciated :D

 

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

I got my hands on some 25i laid on tabs. There was no information on the dose it was laid at. Does anyone know if there is an 'average' that they're laid at? I'm trying to work out how much to dose for my first time.

 

[pandahaze]

There is non. 1,5 is the most I've ever heard. But try the half tab first. Do not try the whole tab.

 

[ShaggyFin]

I really hope I get this soon.

2 Questions.

1) What does everyone think about using this with 2 or 3 people in a setting with 10-20 people around that are drinking?

2) I know drinking alcohol on this or any RC isn't SUGGESTED. But has anyone had any negative effects from drinking??

 

[Darkstorn]

I really hope I get this soon.

1) What does everyone think about using this with 2 or 3 people in a setting with 10-20 people around that are drinking?

It is among the most mentally "confusing" substances i've tried: No overt mindfuck unless you take too much but even at lower doses it causes a very strange effect on myself: I'm doing random things, going to the bathroom, drinking a beer or watching TV. Then 5 minutes later i realize i never actually did any of it. The thought of doing them was just indistinguishable from the real thing.

So, confusion. Probably not so good on such a setting. And certainly don't take a heroic dose. For the first time i'd actually recommend a threshold dose.

2) I know drinking alcohol on this or any RC isn't SUGGESTED. But has anyone had any negative effects from drinking??

Impaired judgement... Which does not go well for 25I-NBOMe. You've been warned.

 

[Transform]

In a party setting where people are drinking I'd say it's not far different from any other psychedelic. It's not 2C-B but it is fairly manageable.

You'll have to see how this matches to your own experience but generally I prefer not to trip around drunk people. If you will have to hide the fact that you're tripping I'd definitely avoid it.

 

[ShaggyFin]

It is among the most mentally "confusing" substances i've tried: No overt mindfuck unless you take too much but even at lower doses it causes a very strange effect on myself: I'm doing random things, going to the bathroom, drinking a beer or watching TV. Then 5 minutes later i realize i never actually did any of it. The thought of doing them was just indistinguishable from the real thing.

So, confusion. Probably not so good on such a setting. And certainly don't take a heroic dose. For the first time i'd actually recommend a threshold dose.



Impaired judgement... Which does not go well for 25I-NBOMe. You've been warned.

I do plan on taking threshold doses. 500mcg to start.
And I won't be drinking, I'm just asking for other peoples safety.

In a party setting where people are drinking I'd say it's not far different from any other psychedelic. It's not 2C-B but it is fairly manageable.

You'll have to see how this matches to your own experience but generally I prefer not to trip around drunk people. If you will have to hide the fact that you're tripping I'd definitely avoid it.

I won't have to hide anything. They will all be at me and my roommates place.

 

[Expansion420]

This may be a stupid question..
Mucus membranes exist in your upper gums, that's why buccal administration of this compound will in fact work, will it not? I feel sublingual is effective but saliva will definitely be swallowed during the course of a sublingual administration. Has anyone had success buccally?

 

[kidklmx]

A whole bunch of people that go with the enteral route. People claim it's more effective, due to the exact reasons you state. So yeah, give that a go

 

[Transform]

Buccal administration works fine. I saw a good method where the user suggested placing the tab between the upper lip and gum and just forgetting about it.

FYI, I think enteral specifically refers to absorption through the intestine, meaning ROAs which would be subject to the first pass metabolism. NBOMes must be dosed parenterally.

 

[intelligentmind]

How many 25I-NBOMe 500mcg would i need to take for a good trip?
Is it possible for there to be more amount than on one? Also, is it anything like acid? is it as intense? what are the general effects?

 

[Expansion420]

From everything I am gathering, taking 825ug of 25I for my first time trying it (knowing source and purity to be accurate) is a bit too little?
My starting dose possibilities are either 825ug, 412.5ug, or 275ug.
I guess go big or go home? I plan to combine with MDMA (100mg or 200mg, have not decided yet), and I wish to be within a clear enough head-space 6-8 hours after dosing.
Opinions?

EDIT

Buccal administration works fine. I saw a good method where the user suggested placing the tab between the upper lip and gum and just forgetting about it.

That's how I go about it when I dose. Just forget. Until the mushiness reminds you 30-60min later

FYI, I think enteral specifically refers to absorption through the intestine, meaning ROAs which would be subject to the first pass metabolism. NBOMes must be dosed parenterally.

Thanks for the info, I knew that oral administration (enteral) is ineffective with NBOMes, BUT- I learned a new word!

 

[dan k]

^ id cut off a corner or something, so its like 500-700ug for your first time. and wait till after the peak to drop the mdma cause the come up can be quite intense.

 

[Expansion420]

^ id cut off a corner or something, so its like 500-700ug for your first time. and wait till after the peak to drop the mdma cause the come up can be quite intense.

I'm fairly experienced with blotters and tripping, this is just the first time I will have accurate control over my dose. My plan was to drop the MDMA at the T+1:00 mark after the 25I. I like to see lots of visuals, and I actually have a choice between 25I/C/B... I am currently under the impression that in terms of potency, B is king, followed by I, then C. But everybody is different and everybody responds differently and no one can say for sure my tabs really contain what I think they contain.

BUT I want to trip hard but be off my peak at T+5:00-T+6:00. It's okay if I'm still rolling a little bit at that time.
I think I have a nice plan, but which 25x would be best suited for combination with MDMA, in any one else's personal experience?

 

[dan k]

i like 750ug 25C then 120-200mg mdma right before the come down

ive heard 25B is less potent cause it is usually cut 50% dextrose from the vendor.

 

[Expansion420]

Darn. The most 25C I have available is 525ug. Also never tried this compound (knowingly).

ive heard 25B is less potent cause it is usually cut 50% dextrose from the vendor.

It's just funny, I've heard 25B-NBOMe to be the most potent in terms of 5HT binding affinity
No one knows what the fuck for sure which is why I'm so grateful for websites like this, to allow people to openly compare experiences.

 

[dan k]

525ug 25c and 150mg mdma sounds like it would be a wonderful night.

is the 25c you have on blotter or is it powder?
if its powder you should suspend it in alcohol and drip it into your nose.
nasal administration has a much quicker come up(5-10 mins)
and shorter duration.
i have had ++ experiences off as little as 300ug and ++++ off 750ug

if it is on blotter stick it between your gums and your upper lip right in front

also, you said you like visuals, i have noticed a great increase in visuals in the dark, or darker room compared to out in the sun

 

[Expansion420]

525ug 25c and 150mg mdma sounds like it would be a wonderful night.

is the 25c you have on blotter or is it powder?
if its powder you should suspend it in alcohol and drip it into your nose.
nasal administration has a much quicker come up(5-10 mins)
and shorter duration.
i have had ++ experiences off as little as 300ug and ++++ off 750ug

if it is on blotter stick it between your gums and your upper lip right in front

also, you said you like visuals, i have noticed a great increase in visuals in the dark, or darker room compared to out in the sun

Yeah its a HPBCD complexed blotter. I think I'm going with 525ug 25C-NBOMe and 100mg MDMA. I'm driving at the T+7:00 mark. Should be pleasant.