The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[IamMe90]

NO. I could just dump random amount of Iso in container. Add Sugar (100mg per hit). Add 25I (1mg per 100mg of sugar). Stir. Let dry. At the end there should be 1mg of 25I in every 100mg of sugar. Whether or not I measure out the liquid.

Then dose on scale. 10mg sugar should be 100 micrograms 25I. Or is that "Volumetric measuring" I'm not sure what that is.

What about blotters. How does everyone feel about blotters and this chem?

Here's the problem. How are you going to measure out 1mg of 25i to put in the container in the first place? You HAVE to use liquid measurement to accurately measure this stuff out in the 1mg range, which means you're going to have to already put the 25i in a volumetric solution in the first place.


If you can't see the problem with your approach, then I'm not sure you should be handling these chemicals... they take a lot of care and precision to use safely.

 

[c1pher]

" I could just dump random amount of Iso in container. Add Sugar (100mg per hit). Add 25I (1mg per 100mg of sugar). Stir. Let dry. At the end there should be 1mg of 25I in every 100mg of sugar. Whether or not I measure out the liquid.

Then dose on scale. 10mg sugar should be 100 micrograms 25I. Or is that "Volumetric measuring" I'm not sure what that is.

What about blotters. How does everyone feel about blotters and this chem?"

ALTHOUGH I RECCOMEND SHUTTING DOWN ANY DISUCCUSION OF THE 25blah compounds FOR HARM REDUCTION SAKE and writing vendors asking them to quit producing then boycotting any vendor who won't follow suit..............i believe you are wrong about mixing sugar and said substance in alcohol and expecting them to form a even distribution throughout the crystal matrix......sugar wants to crystallize with sugar not said substance so you would most definately have "hot-spots"

 

[Sepher]

This seems very strange. I had experience with 2c-I, and I feel like there was never really much of a "tolerance build up". I had no problems ever with two or even three days of tripping in a row. I never had to take more to feel the same effects, and I never felt like 1 hit ever got weaker, even when I started trying 3-4 hits at a time. Does 25I really build tolerance like that in many people's cases.

25I is deemed to have unusually complete and long-lasting effects far as tolerance goes by many, yes. 7 days between dosing would be the minimum needed to get anything like full effects after a previous run out IME, same dose both times, upping dose on the second go does not fully compensate for the tolerance, again IME. A high dose of 4mg in a single trip ( staggered dosing, 2mg + 2mg, not the same as 4mg in one dose then. ) barely produced threshold effects, barely any visuals or headspace change whatsoever 7 days after a previous run out at the exact same dose that was beyond visual and properly dissociative and ego-dissolving. Had to wait 14 days for my next opportunity to get full effects back.

 

[anonone]

OMG, do not let this kid get anywhere near the 25x-style drugs; not after his stories about 'eyeballing' 2C-I 'the right way' for him and his friends to take
for repeated trips over and over again. (He probably said it here since he's basically spammed out his life in two other 'drug' forums before getting banned,
so I don't see why BL would be any different.)

Read the kid (and he is a kid, despite him being 'almost old enough to drink')'s 'trip stories' - it'll make you angry if you have any sense of responsibility or discretion on how substances should be used and given to others.

 

[ShaggyFin]

It would be good if you could highlight your questions in those posts SF

NBOMes will dissolve in orange juice.
Vaporising that much ethanol will have no effect on you.
Yes, the NBOMes build tolerance incredibly quickly.
Yes, so long as the jello dissolves this will work the same as any other buccal method.
Usually NBOMes will keep one awake for 8-10 hours after dosing.

Thank you :D I will highlight them next time, sorry.

Here's the problem. How are you going to measure out 1mg of 25i to put in the container in the first place?.

That's not what I said. The WHOLE solution will have 10mg of 25I, 1000mg sugar. And the bag should come with only 10mg, but I have a .01 scale, so I can make sure it's not like double what it should be.

 

[pandahaze]

I think the tolerance differs from person to person. Just try to find yours. I got a half tab 600 ug last week and the same this week. The intensity of the trip was exactly the same. It's obvious that my tolerance is very low regarding nbome since my first trip (1200 ug) was out of this world, a total mind fuck.

 

[Transform]

Please keep off topic discussion to PM. If you find yourself being baited into offtopic discussion, please report the post. Please also do not post multiple times in a row. Use the edit button to update your last post instead.

ShaggyFin: You absolutely cannot handle NBOMes without a 0.001g scale at least. There are no ifs or buts. You can get a cheap one for $15. Failure to take this advice may result in your serious injury or death.

 

[Bagseed]

^ what Transform said. with a 0.01 scale, you cannot even safely determine if you product is 10 or 25mg. and there have been a lot of reported cases where vendors sent more product than expected.

 

[ShaggyFin]

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ShaggyFin: You absolutely cannot handle NBOMes without a 0.001g scale at least. There are no ifs or buts. You can get a cheap one for $15. Failure to take this advice may result in your serious injury or death.

Where do you get a scale like that?

^ what Transform said. with a 0.01 scale, you cannot even safely determine if you product is 10 or 25mg. and there have been a lot of reported cases where vendors sent more product than expected.

Maybe not tell if it's EXACTLY 25mg, but you can tell the difference between 10mg and 20mg.

 

[slo mo]

25I is deemed to have unusually complete and long-lasting effects far as tolerance goes by many, yes. 7 days between dosing would be the minimum needed to get anything like full effects after a previous run out IME, same dose both times, upping dose on the second go does not fully compensate for the tolerance, again IME. A high dose of 4mg in a single trip ( staggered dosing, 2mg + 2mg, not the same as 4mg in one dose then. ) barely produced threshold effects, barely any visuals or headspace change whatsoever 7 days after a previous run out at the exact same dose that was beyond visual and properly dissociative and ego-dissolving. Had to wait 14 days for my next opportunity to get full effects back.

NBOME's require 2 weeks minimum before next trip . Every NBOME thread should have this information at the beginning in bold as a HR purpose. It might be annoying for some, but even if it can reduce harm to one user that might otherwise fall victim.

For those that trip every week or more, it can lead to misleading dosages because of the tolerance . Then what happens when the person has no tolerance and goes back to those doses8( This has to be known to every NBOME user. To think of dosing on a NON-NBOME compound a week after NBOME, I know from experience twice the dose of 2c-t-7 was not even a trip. Then to think if I never had experience with T7 and then did the same amount with no tolerance in the future ? Or what many do, they will take even more because the previous time wasn't strong enough 8) This is where the danger is, and it has to be known. It might not be NBOME than will directly cause harm, but rather indirectly through it's fierce long lasting tolerance.

 

[Bagseed]

1) http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...y-Scale-amp-Balance-Thread-(New-incarnation!) do some research ffs.

2)

Maybe not tell if it's EXACTLY 25mg, but you can tell the difference between 10mg and 20mg.

maybe, but how do you know how accurate your scale is? i own a cheap 0.001 scale, and it is mostly off by 3mg and only reacts to weights of more than 8mg, so not even that scale would be safe to handle potent compunds w/o liquid measuring. a 0.01 scale only goes to 10mg, and probably might be off like mine. do you really want to risk it?

the only safe way to go about this, is measuring the sample with a 0.001 scale and then apply liquid measuring. anything else is reckless and the exact opposite of harm reduction.

 

[Folley]

25i actually surprised me a LOT.

It's is very similar to LSD, has great visuals and was a very intense (but no where near TOO intense) at 2mg for my first trip. I know I should have gone lighter for the first time, but I'm glad I didn't


I was expecting NBOMe to be a very side effect filled trip, honestly I didn't think I would like it at all... but it's almost like a mix of LSD and mushrooms, great acid visuals with that "fucked up" mushroom head space. It's not my favorite drug by a LONG shot, but it's definitely going to be something I'll keep in my collection

 

[ShaggyFin]

the only safe way to go about this, is measuring the sample with a 0.001 scale and then apply liquid measuring. anything else is reckless and the exact opposite of harm reduction.

I think I messed up when typing. My friend is borrowing my scale right no so I'm asking him, but I believe my scale is actually to the .001 Sorry for the typo.

 

[Folley]

I think I messed up when typing. My friend is borrowing my scale right no so I'm asking him, but I believe my scale is actually to the .001 Sorry for the typo.

^ I've seen quite a few of your posts here.. every single one is horribly misinformed.


If you get NBOMe powder, volumetric dosing or not, I have little doubt you will FUCK UP and possibly overdose/die. How old are you anyways? It's obviously you can't handle ANY chemistry, not even something as simple as dissolving a powder into water.


You better be buying NBOMe blotters, or you're in for some serious trouble.

 

[ShaggyFin]

^ I've seen quite a few of your posts here.. every single one is horribly misinformed.


If you get NBOMe powder, volumetric dosing or not, I have little doubt you will FUCK UP and possibly overdose/die. How old are you anyways? It's obviously you can't handle ANY chemistry, not even something as simple as dissolving a powder into water.


You better be buying NBOMe blotters, or you're in for some serious trouble.

Lol.

I can handle this shit, and chemistry. I've been doing this shit since I was 14 and I'm 21 as of today.

Expect a trip report within the next few weeks :D

FUCK getting blotters.

 

[freehugs]

I was getting some weird ass visuals listening to my music last night on ~500ug.
Asian women on a conveyor belt getting karate chop massaged by mechanical hands. :D

 

[kidklmx]

Look man, people are only saying this because they don't want you to die. They're saying this FROM EXPERIENCE. Just do a search on NBOMes and just see the amount of threads about NBOMe usage gone wrong, and most (if not all) of it is from improper handling, either by themselves or someone else.

 

[Folley]

There is absolutely NO reason to not buy NBOMe on blotter.

It's easier, more convenient and not to mention hundreds of times safer than trying to dose such a potent powder.




If you try and dilute 25i with sugar, you're going to get FUCKED up. No doubt about it.

 

[kidklmx]

Hmm, I trust myself much rather than some random dude trying to get an extra bit of dough. Especially with delicate tasks like laying blotter, I've heard of a lot of blotters (that came from vendors) being laid unevenly. (based on differences that seemed to be related to dosage) Not that I lay my own blotter, I don't really trust myself on that.

Don't ever go without liquid measurement though..

 

[Transform]

I have to say, as much as I generally mistrust people selling drugs, I think for the majority it is much safer to buy pre-laid blotters.