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The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (2nd edition)

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I have 1ml of 1mg/1ml solution in my mouth as type this, in about 10 more min I am going to leave my house with my wife to go to a water park, should be pretty interesting.. I dissolved 30mg into 60ml of water, the solution did not dissolve completely so i added 1ml of white vinegar
and added a little heat. Too soon to know if im going to trip or not but ill be back later with test results.
 
thadocta13 said:
Also, in case anybody is wondering, I did not consume any other psych or substance within a month and do not have very extensive experience with 5-HT related psychs.
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Be careful taking this one a lot. It is a full agonist and it some ways I don't feel it's really meant for human ingestion, somewhat similar in nature to synthetic cannabinoids.

Then again, it has produced some very beautiful experiences for me.
 
Quick question: if a 500mcg blotter of 25i was placed between gum and upper lip for 20 minutes and no effect at all was observed, would you say that the blotter was bunk? The person taking it had never taken 25i before.
 
Halif said:
Quick question: if a 500mcg blotter of 25i was placed between gum and upper lip for 20 minutes and no effect at all was observed, would you say that the blotter was bunk? The person taking it had never taken 25i before.
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NO it probably wasn't. Like I said multiple times, laying this stuff onto blotters is reckless and idiotic and we should not support this form of consumption of uncomplexed nbome's. It took me 1400ug on my first try, a friend took a whopping 5250ug and a third person, very experienced with acid and mushrooms, had his first major psychotic break on 350ug. Talking about the same batch of blotters.

Chances are your blotters are fine, but nonetheless I would disrecommend redosing now. If you have a lot of blotters left, I would recommend bringing them into solution to dose intranasally or complexing them with a cyclodextrine for sublingual/oral use.
 
It took me 1400ug on my first try, a friend took a whopping 5250ug and a third person, very experienced with acid and mushrooms, had his first major psychotic break on 350ug. Talking about the same batch of blotters.
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Thanks for the response. I'm not sure what you mean by that, though. Do you mean that reactions to 25i are very different for different people? Or was there some inconsistency with the blotters?
 
crOOk said:
NO it probably wasn't. Like I said multiple times, laying this stuff onto blotters is reckless and idiotic and we should not support this form of consumption of uncomplexed nbome's. It took me 1400ug on my first try, a friend took a whopping 5250ug and a third person, very experienced with acid and mushrooms, had his first major psychotic break on 350ug. Talking about the same batch of blotters.

Chances are your blotters are fine, but nonetheless I would disrecommend redosing now. If you have a lot of blotters left, I would recommend bringing them into solution to dose intranasally or complexing them with a cyclodextrine for sublingual/oral use.
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Irresponsible? A good majority of the horror reports and hospital visitations with 25i have been with intranasal ROA. If someone is laying there own blotters and is not an idiot, it is IMO a much safer ROA than intranasal. Now, buying premeasured blotters is reckless, I'll agree to that.
 
Halif said:
Thanks for the response. I'm not sure what you mean by that, though. Do you mean that reactions to 25i are very different for different people? Or was there some inconsistency with the blotters?
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I have been blaming this on a very unreliable oral bioavailability. The product was not mine, but was sold by the same person who synthesized the substance, so I'd assume they had a low variance in the amount of substance on them.
 
ok, thanks very much Cr00k. I can see why blotters aren't a great way to go then. You recommend putting the blotters into solution and dosing intranasally - do you mean 'snorting' the solution?

And if the problem (in your situation) was unreliable bioavailability rather then variance in the amount of substance on the blotters, would it be possible to put a blotter into my nose so it sits against my inner nostril? I mean do you think that result in a better bioavailability? Or is that just crazy talk?

And sockpuppet: all good points listed there. One can never be comfortable when taking Random Chemicals.
 
Halif said:
ok, thanks very much Cr00k. I can see why blotters aren't a great way to go then. You recommend putting the blotters into solution and dosing intranasally - do you mean 'snorting' the solution?

And if the problem (in your situation) was unreliable bioavailability rather then variance in the amount of substance on the blotters, would it be possible to put a blotter into my nose so it sits against my inner nostril? I mean do you think that result in a better bioavailability? Or is that just crazy talk?

And sockpuppet: all good points listed there. One can never be comfortable when taking Random Chemicals.
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You'd be best off not to dissolve more than one blotter's content at a time, so you do not run the risk of overdosing at all. You won't be able to fit a lot of liquid into your nose without any running out, so solubility will be an issue. You won't be able to use an organic solvent either, since the irritation could be very uncomfortable. If there is a salt on the blotters, the water solubility will be better than if you were using the freebase.

You'd best browse the forums for the solubility question. I could imagine 5% ethanol 95% water would work, converting to a salt by lowering the ph of the solution with a tiny bit of acid might be a good idea, too. You'll want the lowest amount of liquid that will still sufficiently dissolve your substance with the lowest amount of irritation to your mucous membranes.



Btw does anyone know about rectal bioavailability? Sticking a blotter up the bum shouldn't be hard to do... :D
 
crOOk said:
Btw does anyone know about rectal bioavailability? Sticking a blotter up the bum shouldn't be hard to do... :D
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That ROA is the obvious alternative :D Can't speak for 25I-NBOMe specifically , but 25C-NBOMe blotters, if that helps. Cutting them to small pieces, putting a few drops of vinegar onto these and diluting to 2-3 ml with tap water certainly works as a preparation for plugging. Be sure to take your time to move the bits and pieces around in the solution, squeeze them with tweezers or something along these lines to have it disintegrating to fibers. It seems to dissolve relatively slowly, so don't be in a hurry.

Interesting that the blotter-into-nose question is asked once on every page. No offense, but people must read as much as possible about these highly potent substances before even thinking to buy some. The most recent page in this thread isn't nearly enough. Not to speak of acquiring some basic skills handling pharmacologically active chemicals like preparing solutions with precisely adjusted concentrations.

Be safe :)
 
How much could be considered as safe? I have been taking 1500ug lately and now since I'm out of weed 1500ug wont be enough to produce strong trip. They are complexed blotters. 1500ug is perfect for tripping outside but I want to get to hyperspace without smoking weed.
 
sn23 said:
Be sure to take your time to move the bits and pieces around in the solution, squeeze them with tweezers or something along these lines to have it disintegrating to fibers. It seems to dissolve relatively slowly, so don't be in a hurry.
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Was gonna hav that salad tossed anyway, thanks for the advice ;P
 
I find that phenethylamine dosage is very widely dependent on the individual. I first noticed this with 2C-E/I where 24mg brings me to a place comparable to my friend at 17mg. (not trying to start a hardhead-pissing-contest, as my high dose requirement also results in severely increased bodyload limiting my experience).

I feel that nbome-2C-I is similar in this sense, where different people may require doses as different as 30-60% in mass. Thats why starting low is crucial.

that said, I found that 1mg of 25I-nbome was about the same as 16mg of 2C-I (and that makes sense based on the wiki for nbomes). It feels like due to the low amount of bodyload one can take it quite far, (1.5mg is my next attempt) but those who claim its virtually indistinguishable from LSD must not have tried 2C-I. the bodyhigh, visual tracers, lack of any deep realisations all were nearly identical to 2C-I
 
^hmmm interesting. I've had 30mg of 2c-i before and it wasn't particularly strong. Actually, it wasn't strong at all. Maybe I just need to take more 25i.
 
crOOk said:
Was gonna hav that salad tossed anyway, thanks for the advice ;P
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Ah sorry, bad choice of words. The fibers won't dissolve anyway, I rather meant the active ingredient needs some time to get fully into solution; I imagine the iodinated counterpart is even slower. Take this into consideration, as it could lead to decreased absorption rates vs. purported fast receptor desensitization.
What you do with that mush is up to you ;)
 
I'm sorry to just hop in here, but there are SO many pages to read...I'm wondering if someone can answer a few of my questions. I really apologize if they have been asked before but they are semi-specific.

I'm supposed to be getting a 10mg sample in the mail. My plan was to dissolve this 10mg in 1ml of iso alcohol, and drop it onto some blotter art I bought as a novelty a few years ago. Will 10mg fit in my 1ml of iso? I've been reading a few pages - is vinegar preferable? its the HCL not freebase.

I did a "dry run" with a 16 strip of my blotter art. I found that 1ml of my "solution" (just the iso) is equal to ~40 drops from my dropper, give or take one or two depending on how close I get to the line. My math says 10,000 / 40 = 250 - I'd much rather have smaller doses like that and work my way up. So, I have that much figured out at least.

I did find however that my blotter is NOT very absorbent. I only dropped 1 drop on each of the 16 hits, and when I lifted it up, it was sitting in a pool of the solution. Obviously this is NOT preferable. Would it be better to just drop it on sugar cubes and do it that way? I was really hoping for the convenient storage of a blotter...but I'll do whatever I have to do I guess. If you guys could maybe suggest something that'd be great - but it looks like a lot of people are having the same trouble as I am.

I'll keep reading this thread, but any help you can offer me for my situation would be MUCH appreciated <3
 
^ I used sugarcubes. Now, I haven't tested them yet, but I will report once I do. I have no problem holding a bunch of sugar in my mouth to let the 25i absorb know what i mean? lol <3 sugar
 
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