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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (2fk/2fdck) Thread

cgdon said:
recieved some 2fdck that is weak and had bad side effects. did some reagent tests.
any1 knows why NL/dutch batches are shit atm?

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NL is still a big trafficking hub but all of their domestic production has had to move out because the heat got way too high, finding good sources from NL is unlikely for a while imo. Also 2F-DCK isn't commonly produced because most people don't like it relative to ketamine, I suspect most people don't like things that induce inward reflection, otherwise we'd probably have streets full of 2C-E instead of 2C-B.
 
Miss this stuff, before real Ket was cheap and easy to source in my country it was a great alternative.

I used it mostly intramuscular and that way it def had a good kick and very possible to hole on.

Somewhat weaker but slightly longer duration then Ket.
Was great for watching movies since i dont need to redose as often as with Ket.
 
Just had the wonderful opportunity of trying this one before it is likely plunged into the ravenous jaws of the CSA's schedule I. I have to say, the FDA and DEA are in love with fighting scarecrows, and it must give them some twisted sense of accomplishment - "look at what our wonderful bureaucracy (void of appropriate checks and balances) can do while we completely ignore and/or mishandle the realities of drug use in this country!"

Anyways, 2-FDCK insufflated is essentially a ketamine clone - marginally longer lasting (like 15 minutes) with maybe ever-so-slightly greater potency by weight. The headspace was in my opinion indistinguishable from good ol' racemic ketamine (not surprising at all). Orally is where this substance appears to shine. Similar potency to insufflated but significantly longer lasting, and I appreciate the fact that you get to ease into the dissociation rather than being blasted up instantly. If you're looking for a ketamine-esque arylcyclohexylamine that has similar activity by weight when eaten, 2-FDCK seems to be a pretty solid option IMO. It is really fascinating that fluorinated ket would be so much more potent orally than ket itself, and it's a prime example of how single atom changes (even halogen for halogen) can produce some pretty radically different pharmacological properties. What is even more fascinating to me is 2-FDCK's potency / qualia departure from deschloroketamine - never underestimate the strangeness of the electronic effects of fluorine. The brain is so incredibly sensitive, it is truly marvelous. SARs can only get you so far.
 
I found intranasal 2F-DCK to be most similar to 2-FXE/CanKet/2'-Oxo-2-Fluoro-O-PCE, whichever name you want to call it. It's similar to ketamine, but right on the border between what I can distinguish as ketamine vs PCP, 2F-DCK feels ever so slightly over that boundary towards the ketamine side and CanKet feels ever so slightly more on the PCP side of things. I certainly prefer CanKet though both are beautiful nonetheless.
 
Esperighanto said:
On the topic of 2F-DCK, I much prefer it to ket, but perfer 2-FXE sliiiightly more (as it's more manic). 2F-DCK felt a lot more like tripping while on a small amount of a disso, which was fascinating. The character reminded me of if DXM had the flat affect of 2C-B, if that makes sense.
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I completely agree with this sentiment after finishing off my stash of 2-FDCK. I'm not one to assign slight perceived qualitative differences as intrinsic properties of a substance itself, especially between arylcyclohexylamines so similar in structure, but tbh after substantial use of 2-FDCK and ketamine, 2-FDCK does have a DXM like, 'trippy' quality even at lower doses that I find ketamine to lack unless pushed to rather high doses. Still would seriously doubt my ability to distinguish between the two in a double blind experiment though.
 
Esperighanto said:
NL is still a big trafficking hub but all of their domestic production has had to move out because the heat got way too high, finding good sources from NL is unlikely for a while imo. Also 2F-DCK isn't commonly produced because most people don't like it relative to ketamine, I suspect most people don't like things that induce inward reflection, otherwise we'd probably have streets full of 2C-E instead of 2C-B.
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Thats were most of the healing comes from but people dont want to heal they want to get high lol.
 
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