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The Big and Senseless Mass Shooting Thread

when you make a vague claim, it's inevitable people will have questions.

one person's foolish agenda is another's progressive triumph :)

alasdair
 
1. deficit spending(He called Bush unpatriotic in 08 for it)

Weird, Keynesians don't tend to hold this view, especially during a period of bust. Where in particular was this said? (not saying it wasn't said)

2. Obamacare/medicaid expansion

This whole thing was tangled up in congress. Yes, between both democrats and republicans. The original idea that was pitched to congress is not what we're looking at now.

This country will feel the effects of Obamas foolish legislative agenda for years to come imo

I feel his legislative agenda will be alright aside from renewing legislation passed by the Bush admin (patriot act, habeas corpus clause in the NSDAA etc) and his failure to glose gitmo. His foreign policy agenda on the other hand.....

Just a reminder, the presidential discussion thread is ====> thataway
 
Ali was the one probing me to talk about Obama and is agenda so you can put up the warning email lol. I love how you default to criticizing Bush knowing I am not beholden to any political party. I will say I lost a lot of respect I had for bill Clinton after reading about his Arkansas days, but still think his policy was lights years ahead of chenneys or Barry's
 
second time of asking. please define this "massive expansion"?

alasdair

Alasdair, wouldn't a more accurate measurement of the federal government size include the number of contractors employed by the US government?

I heard that the number of contractors has greatly increased, which may offset some or all of the shrinking federal employee pool.
 
Alasdair, wouldn't a more accurate measurement of the federal government size include the number of contractors employed by the US government?

I heard that the number of contractors has greatly increased, which may offset some or all of the shrinking federal employee pool.

Yep contractors dont require benefits. Eschers this is refreshing and gives me hope.
 
Alasdair, wouldn't a more accurate measurement of the federal government size include the number of contractors employed by the US government?

I heard that the number of contractors has greatly increased, which may offset some or all of the shrinking federal employee pool.
i wouldn't say it's a more accurate measurement but i would agree that it's a factor in a more accurate measurement.

unfortunately, it's hard to get accurate numbers and it's hard to gauge from the cost.

alasdair
 
I love how you default to criticizing Bush knowing I am not beholden to any political party.

The only person I'm criticizing is the president for renewing policies that happened to be signed into law under Bush. Unless you're a fan of the Patriot Act etc.

Still curious about that part about Obama calling Bush unpatriotic for deficit spending, as Obama is a Keynesian. It's kind of their thing during bust periods.

Workers getting a lousy deal gives you hope?
Weird priorities, but nothing out of the ordinary.

To be fair, contractors factor profit into the bill, thus making them more expensive than federal workers. And the number of defense contractors alone will make your head spin.
 
The only person I'm criticizing is the president for renewing policies that happened to be signed into law under Bush. Unless you're a fan of the Patriot Act etc.

Still curious about that part about Obama calling Bush unpatriotic for deficit spending, as Obama is a Keynesian. It's kind of their thing during bust periods.


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let me end your curiosity Bardoo. They should of called the video cringe compilation: POTUS
 
Coconut Fight Erupts In Westside Traffic; 2 Injured

Coconuts instead of bullets, people!! :P
Coconut Fight Erupts In Westside Traffic; 2 Injured

NĀNĀKULI, OAHU, HAWAII — Road rage has taken an unusual tone on the west side Wednesday morning when an all out coconut fight took place during the morning commute.

Traffic was at a stand still in the town bound direction on Farrington Highway fronting Sack N Save when witnesses say a man in a white flatbed truck started lobbing unhusked coconuts at unsuspecting vehicles.

“I just saw this old dude get out of his truck, reach in the back and start launching coconuts at all the cars”, said Jansen Kahalewai, who was a few cars behind the irate driver. “Bruddah was losing it” he continued, “Another Bruddah hopped out of his car and started throwing the coconuts back at him, was kind of like they was playing dodgeball but only they were using coconuts instead of red rubber balls.”

Authorities say 2 people were injured during the melee and were treated at the scene.

Police arrested 44 year old Kona P. Soa of Mākaha on two counts of assault and criminal property damage.

Traffic in the area has been linked to temper tantrums, stress and beatdowns handed out by residents of the Wai’anae Coast for years.
https://massivemango.wordpress.com/2015/12/09/coconut-fight-erupts-in-westside-traffic-2-injured/
 
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