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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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fizzacyst said:
I think you should probably just take a break. When you get to the point that you can't administer the drug any reasonable way and still have it work, thats definitely a sign you should lay off the stuff for a while.
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If it weren't Ketamine, then that makes total sense. Ketamine tolerance lasts pretty much forever, I could take a month long break, as I am in fact coming off of, but my tolerance drops so little, that we're talking maybe 20mg less to K-Hole? And that is guesstimated because I don't measure, so in reality there may be no change at all. It's a sign I should have laid off the stuff when I first start doing it, as I was binging off the bat, but I was ignorant to how Ketamine's tolerance works at the point. Now here's my situation.

I have ~650mg of Ketamine, however it is cut, not sure how heavily but whatever it is does NOT mix with my sinuses at ALL. I literally could not breathe in through my sinuses, it was impossible to the point that when I tried so, so hard, I though I might crack a rid or something. This is either due to the cutting agent which is reported to be Creatine or my body having some sort of defense mechanism to stop me from taking the drug. Well I'm gonna take the drug, lol, so I see a few options.

I could keep taking it nasally, risking permanent sinus damage, infections, etc. I mean this is viable, I'd just have to do a really big line off the bat and be done with it and try to ignore the fact that I can only breathe through my mouth for the next couple hours.

I could take it orally, which is a great idea, really, but ~650mg just ain't gonna cut it, I've heard too many mixed reports on oral Ketamine requiring obscene amounts and I've had failed attempts in the past.

I could IM/IV it, but I don't have needles and I wouldn't IM/IV impure Ketamine, even if Creatine is a pretty safe cutting agent who knows if there is other chemicals in there.

So I'm left with rectal, does anyone know if this works? Obviously I'll dissolve the Ketamine in a small amount of water and get it up there, somehow not sure how ill do it yet, turkey baster perhaps, lol, but I haven't heard of this being done, it may not work at all, and I have no idea on what dose to do if it does work, could be incredibly low, who knows...?

So this is my dilemma, I know I need to stop doing Ketamine eventually, but not now, it is summer time, I'm still young and I'm losing my link pretty damn soon anyways so I'll be forced into quitting for quite some time soon anyways.

Rectal Ketamine - answers please or I guess I'm going with the old hoover up a massive line, lose my ability to breathe through my nose and trips balls method.

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OK I've consulted Erowid, it seems rectal is really similar to oral, so my dilemma now is do I do one oral dose, which will probably provide OK effects, but probably not a K-Hole, or I can get about 2 K-Holes out of this nasally, but I gotta deal with the god damn nasal blockage. Tough choice, not even sure I'll do K tonight, seeing as I'm in such a dilemma. I've got Clonazepam or MDMA to play with, maybe do a Clonazepam small amount of Alcohol combo, though that was gonna be tomorrow.
 
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a bit off topic with what is being discussed in this thread but... how bad is the w/d from Ketamine coldturkey?

To vortex20: if you've got a debit card or something google up syringes... *hint* check out medi-vet. No need to waste your hard earned cash on sniffing K when you can shoot up for far less.

Another question: Does Ketamine kill anxiety, stress, and worries like DXM?
 
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fizzacyst said:
I would be interested in a mix of something like 75% racemic 25% s-isomer.
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I may be mistaken, but I thought for sure that the viles of pharmacutical K that I used to get here in the US were a combination of Racemic and and S-isomers. (The brand I'm most familiar with is Ketaset.) Is it no longer manufactured that way?:( Too bad, if not. That was the K I grew to know and love!
 
vortex30 said:
Plugging Ketamine? The thought just occurred to me. I can no longer snort, not this batch at least, and I was also thinking oral but I have 650mg at most and I need about 200-250mg to K-Hole when snorted. Thoughts? Techniques? Suggestions?
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Doesn't work well at all for some reason (it's thought that it's the acidity of the compound that causes it not to be absorbed), nasal, buccal or IM is much better. IM is the most effective cost wise. Doses for rectal are almost comparable to oral.

Buccal works well, not as good as nasal but up there, the taste is not very good but bearable. You put a bunch of the powder under your bottom lip and don't swallow for about 15 minutes, swishing it around some every now and then.
 
Sorry to sound like a fool but what's the difference between racemic and s-isomer?
 
What is ketamine comonly cut with ?
I bought some dirty K and I just wondered (just like cocaine is cut with lactose, novocaine)

What could someone cut K with ?

weird question haha
 
Quebec Gold said:
What is ketamine comonly cut with ?
I bought some dirty K and I just wondered (just like cocaine is cut with lactose, novocaine)

What could someone cut K with ?

weird question haha
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Mine is sometimes cut with creatine, once it was cut with sugar.
 
K tonight, couple questions...

I just ate about 30-40 minutes ago, will this effect the Ketamine? I'm doing an oral dose of 700mg or so, with about 100mg insuffilated if I need it. How long should I let my food digest for? (I'm guessing another hour or so if I don't get a reply)

Last time I did K was Friday night, and well I almost died...But this was after 3 beers and 4 shots and cigarettes (recently quit smoking but had 4 on Friday). I also did 250mg insuffilated that night. Basically I started puking 20 minutes in and it lasted too long or something, I had to breath and I inhaled some puke, started choking and gasping for air and eventually was fully obstructed when my friend pulled the old Heimlich on me (we are/were lifeguards). Do you think this is too soon? I was just gonna conclude K for a while on one big dose, but I don't wanna throw up or have my first ever bad trip on K cause the last one I almost died, lol.

Hell, I'm gonna go for it, it was totally the alcohol that caused me the problems.
 
Cface said:
Sorry to sound like a fool but what's the difference between racemic and s-isomer?
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That's not stupid. It has to do with how the molecule is configured. Studies have shown that the different isomers posses slightly different properties ergo the effects are slightly different when consumed. The research is pretty easy to find. Check this out.


http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=2804
 
Kitforkat, I see you've found your way home...have fun!

PS: If swilow tries to steal your ket, kick 'im in the shin... :D
 
So i was able to try IM ketamine for the first time this past weekend.
Definately a much superior way of taking it than insufflation.

I started with 25mg, than ~30mg 15 min later, 40mg 15-20 min after that and my last shot was done about 15 minutes later and was ~55-60 mg. (there might have been one other shot of ~30-40 mg sometime between the first and last shot, i cant recall because i was a little to K'd out at the time)

I didnt acheive a K hole probably because i need to take a big IM dose all at once (my tolerance is pretty high from snorting the stuff alot lately.) But since this was my first time with needles i decided to play it safe and start with a low dose and work my way up.

It was a wonderful experience despite not getting k hole.

Im thinking 50-60mg IM's might do the job just right.

What doses do u guys use to k hole when IMing?
 
The other day, I had what I'd have to call the strangest drug experience I have ever had. 20mg of ketamine (with very little or no tolerance), IV'd, for about a minute felt just like I'd taken a big whack of nitrous, then I was fairly coherent for a minute or two, and then, I'm told, stared off into space with an utterly blank expression on my face. During this time, I felt my consciousness being dissected by other, alien entities, and when I finally was able to focus my attention on the alien consciousnesses, they became my own, which, in turn, was being dissected again ... in an infinite loop. WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD. And none too comfortable, either. I dunno if I'm in a hurry to do it again (IV K that is.)
 
I would highly discourage IV use with ketamine. The trip is much less worthwhile and the addiction potential is definitely there.

My experiment with it led to a very negative trip, much less euphoric than IM or subq ROA.

I'd say steer clear of IV use with this drug.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I would highly discourage IV use with ketamine. The trip is much less worthwhile and the addiction potential is definitely there.

My experiment with it led to a very negative trip, much less euphoric than IM or subq ROA.

I'd say steer clear of IV use with this drug.
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hmm... since my last post about not feeling IV K as much I didn't use any K for nearly two weeks. I IV'd 75mg after only snorting 10mg 10mins before. I had no more of a rush than when I IM, and there was little very mental (expected). I got the auditory and numbess more than normal but that was it. I'm going to give it one more try in a month or three but I don't see what it is about. I'm 100% I was in a vain.
 
At least make sure you are sitting flat on your ass, proped up safely in a corner, or on a bunch of pillows or something. I wouldn't do this sitting on the edge of your couch or anything like that. I'd really discourage IV with this too... seems like there is far too much danger of overshooting the mark and falling out and hurting yourself. Thats probably more of a concern with people who aren't using regularly/aren't tolerant.. but still... some MOAs just don't jive with certain drugs.
 
Is for someone ketamine non-euphoric? because I experience zero euphoria...
 
Sometimes it's enjoyable but I wouldn't necessarily call what I experience "euphoria", if that makes any sense...
 
Ow ok, I see.

I just saw erowid mentioning "euphoria" and here on BL I see so much people telling that K is addictive (so probably there is a good reason why it is so addictive)...

So I assumed I was missing a Whole Lotta Fun :D

I find Ketamine not so spectacular actually (at 15,40,60,100,160,250mg doses respectively) Probably it's not my thing (yet) :)
 
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^what the hell... oh i read it wrong... thought you took a dose of 15,400,600,100,160,250mg :\ I'm tired.
 
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