sarsXdave said:
Okay, I've only read through this thread, so sorry if this was brought up in a previous Ketamine Big and Dandy.
I have a friend who went to another college and has had quite a time with ketamine and mentioned that he'll "have to buy me a line." I had been wondering if it'd be out of line for me to ask that I could use it on my own, probably offering to pay for the stuff myself. Any other drug I've done, I'd definitely do it with the person that offered, but it seems like K is an overwhelmingly internal experience for most people. I actually had my first drug experience with this dude, DXM, another (quite different) dissociative, but still found it most rewarding for me when I very occasionally take it and lie down in a dark room with closed eyes and headphones. Said friend has since mentioned that he mostly listens to soul music with K himself.
I realize the thing to do in most situations like this is to be forthright with the person, and not ask them to just give you stuff how you'd like it (again, I'd offer to pay). I guess what I'm mainly trying to ask is whether many of you have found success in doing K with others. I mean, I know some even regard it as a "club drug," but somehow I have my doubts that such socializing won't feel like work or otherwise detract.
I don't think anyone really addressed this, so I'll ramble a bit.
Just ask him to hook it up for you. I seriously doubt he will mind helping you buy a stash of ketamine for your own use if he does this regularly anyway.
Take it in a way that will make you comfortable. Always remember the imortance of set and setting with psychedelic drugs. I don't know how it got a reputation as a "club drug", probably just he media. Low doses can be kind of like alcohol, producing a kind of mild stupor, lack of coordination, things are a little goofy, you slur and stumble a bit. So I can see small amounts being ok or fun for some in a club.
You cannot take a full dose of ketamine in a club... or at least, not the kind of clubs we have where I live. You'll just lay there unresponsive for about 30-60min, drooling on yourself. That kind of stuff attracts attention. You'll look like you've drank yourself unconsious or something.
K is worthwhile to some as a group activity. Personally, I like taking it around friends, as they make me feel safe, esp camping or at a festival or something... so nobody messes with me while I'm out. But I don't really use it as a group activity. We may take it as a group, but its not a group thing... if that makes any sense at all. You aren't going to get all lit up and start talking to each other and running around and drawing with fingerpaints. You're going to be basically knocked out and off inside your head flying around as a beam of light and that sort of thing.
You can have a rough time/bad trip on K, though it doesn't seem to be as common as with non-dissociative psychedelics. So make sure to be comfortable.
If you don't want to do whatever your friend had in mind, don't. When in a group everyone's needs should be met as far as comfort zones.
Maybe try a bit on your own, and then if you want to take it with your friend do so. Just straight up tell him you need to feel it out before you feel good about being around another person. It can be a bit weird.
I've found interacting with my GF to be incredibly difficult and tiresome while on it. I can't communicate for shit, time goes backwards sometimes in my head and other twisted abnormal things.... I'll just try to say "I can't talk right now, out for a while" and it feels like the struggle of a lifetime. I don't even need to say anything, she knows I can't talk, but I'll still feel the need to sometimes if I'm aware enough to notice she is there. Also, sometimes I will manage to move myself into a really weird position or make really fucked up noises or generally look as if I am in major distress when I'm fine. She'll try to see if I ok, and someone asking me if I'm ok all the time makes me wonder if I really am ok... then we go back to the communication problem.
Do what feels right. I couldn't handle soul music on ketamine, jesus, it would drive me completely nuts. I need stuff thats more ambient. droning texture... or chillout, psydub or something like that. Music that makes me floaty and relaxed on its own.
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