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The Big and Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread (Archive 3-19-07 - 4-12-08)

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^^^I'd say that (depending on all sorts of variables) one foot of cacti should be enough.
Sometimes I've drank tea and less than one foot made me trip balls for hours, other times i've made tea with one foot and not really felt much.
But however you plan on preparing the cacti i'd recommend starting to prepare it now if you want it for NYE.
Both making tea and drying out the green outer layer and putting it in caps takes a LONG time. Well i guess tea can be made quickly but you're most likely going to want to reduce it into a drinkable amount. I remember making tea with 2 feet of cacti and I was left with like 2-4 liters of tea.....and no one wants to drink 1-2 liters of nasty bitter tea and throw up all night on NYE.

if you'll can stomach the cacti, you'll have a great time.

and did you ask about combining san pedro and e pills?
IME i thought it was MUCH more enjoyable to drink the tea after i was rolling (like 1/2 a normal dose of cacti)....it made me just feel like i was rolling for 12+ hours. When I drank the cacti first then took e pills i just felt mashed (not in a good way either). either way i still think the term 'loveflipping' is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.

edit: oh yeah, in my experience it's very hard to have an overwhelming mescaline trip with san pedro. Even when i got an extremely potent cacti and tripped VERY hard, the overwhelming-ness had an extremely positive charge to it. Every time I felt like "holy shit this is intense" i just felt a nice warm "it's gonna be ok" sensation sweep through me. have fun
 
Mescaline Prep Technique

Ok, so I'm getting three 6" cuttings of San Pedro soon and have been searching for the best and quickest technique to get it prepared. So far this seems to be the best I've come across:

Grind the cuttings to a powder.
Add 1 cup of water for each foot of cutting.
Add the juice of 2 lemons and stir.

It also states that it helps to get the juice cold before ingestion. Before I go with this method I just want to know if there are any other preferred methods to do this. This is my first time messing with Mescaline and no one that I know has any experience with it.

Thanks in advance.
 
If it were me, I'd go with the one linked here (the first link under the "Preparations" section. It even has pictures. I've never actually done this, but from everything I've seen it's erroneous to think that blending San Pedro cuttings is going to give you a powder. And even if it did, I can't see adding water to that powder giving you something you'd want to drink! It'd probably have the consistency of wallpaper glue at best, or sheetrock compound at worst.
 
joef51 said:
Does the citric acid aid in the extraction, or does it just help mask the taste of the cactus? Would lemmon juice work?

joe
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I have published a complete step by step photographic pictorial essay for the preparation of San Pedro Cactus and it is posted with beautiful photographic images at http://www.erowid.org by John W. Allen.

mjshroomer
 
does anyone know if mescaline is soluble in acetone???


Heres a little background:

I made tea, and evaporated it into a tar.

Dried it out until it was a crusty mess.

Scrapped it the best i could off the pyrex

added acetone and stirred with a razor blade.

ran the acetone/san pedro resin solution through a coffee filter.

Now do I want to save the stuff that ran through the coffee filter?
Or save the stuff that got caught up in the coffee filter?

I know the acetone wash and filtration is usually the last step in an A/B. So I was hoping that maybe the acetone wash and filtration would turn a crude crude crude extract into a not as crude extract.

Any insights from anyone??? or was this just a waste?

(BTW the acetone evaporated clean on a test dish)
 
San Pedro Preparation

This is a 23 photo step-by-step pictorial of how to prepare San Pedro for Western Civilization.

I wrote this years ago and it originally was suppose to appear in Psychedelic Illuminations number 10 which was never published.

I have used this method since the mid 1970s after failing to properly create a first time experience because I was in too much of a hurry and did not properly prepare the cactus for consumption.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml

mjshroomer
 
I tried today the cactus tea, my first psychedelic experiment, yeaah 8o I have a small report, and some questions.

I used the tea method of mjshroomer (thanks a lot for the time you put for the text and pictures, very useful !). I must say that this method is incredibly better than the cactus Jello I tried last week, no comparison ! Newbies out there, don't even try the Jello method, it is awful :-D (the worst thing is the consistence, because even in the Jello, you feel the texture of tiny bits of powdered cactus, and the taste, plus the texture, evokes instantly vomit. I was not able to consume more than 5-10 grams, and even going to that amount was incredibly difficult).

The tea method of mjshroomer in comparison is much, much easier to swallow. Bitter than a double espresso without sugar, but not by much. So no problem to swallow it, and as you don't swallow a lot of cactus material (=wax and fiber a human is not supposed to digest anyway), absolutely no nausea (at least for me).

I prepared my tea from dried cactus, not from fresh, and I used 23 grams (0.8 oz) as it was my first time (I read that 35 grams was a standard trip, and I wanted a lighter one). But I had zero effect. So I wonder:

* when preparing the tea from dried material, is 23 grams enough ? Considering that there is waste (in the blender, during the boil, during the filtering at the end), should I have used more ? If so, how much ? 35 ? 40 ?

* I have kept the tea at a very very slight boil (the "bubbles" during the boil were covering let's say ... 50% of the surface of the water, with very small bubbles), is it enough ? Or should the boil be more energic after the first half hour ? Like medium-sized bubbles all over the surface ?

* as the boil was very slight , I boiled it for 6 hours instead of 4, was it a mistake ? It takes time to reduce.

* during the boil, there was at most time between one and two liter (4-8 cups) of water, and I only reduced it in the end, is that ok ? Or should I have boiled it with less water from start to finish, adding less water more often ?

In the end, I reduced it to around one cup and half, which gave me one cup filtered. I drank it in half an hour, after only a very light breakfast one hour before (I took a meal after 5 hours, when it was obvious that nothing was happening). But no effect at all. I plan to try cactus again, as I have found a method which allows me to consume it easily and without gut distress, but I would like to know what do you think I have to change: the amount of cactus ? the amount of water ? the temperature throughout the boiling phase ? the duration of the boil ? everything :-) ?

Thanks for any advices you may have !

NeuroDaemon
 
yes its an overall al right method (cacti tek!) for a funky ( in a not unbearably horrible "earthy cacti" kinda way) tasting brew, best of luck & report back.
 
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Drinking Mescaline....How?

I have about 16oz of mescaline juice left from all the boiling I did earlier today. I tried taking a sip of it and it went down, but another I cannot possibly bare.

Does anyone have any advice on how I can drink this shit? It's about a plastic cup full.
 
1. Boil it down further. (16oz? No need to drink that much.)
2. Use a drinking straw. Jam it as far back down your throat as you can and suck hard (... said the bishop to the actress ;) )
 
apparently if u dry it out enough you get a kind of resin that can be rolled into balls which can be easily washed down with a drink.
 
Yeps. ^

Boil it more till it turns into some sticky crap that you can roll into balls, cover with flour, then swallow.
 
if you can do with taking it at another occasion you can also try an extraction. should be much easier to consume with less nausa.
 
The perenial question....how do I drink this fucking horrible shit that will lead to a wonderful headspace? I would let it slow-boil down some more until you have a very small quanity of liquid, cool it dramtically and whammo! That straw method sounds good in more ways then one. However, to decrease nausea and the risk of vomiting out the juice, perhaps don't whammo! but just try to sip it and chase it with something gentle yet strongly flavoured.

I've thought about chewing a small strip of raw, dried cactus to coat my mouth with the extreme horribleness and then drinking the liquid; kind of aclimatising my taste buds for what is to come.

Gonna merge with the B&D Mescaline Thread. :)
 
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