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Phenethylamines The Big and Dandy 25x-NBOH Megathread | Post your 25x-NBOH info and questions here.

when i try this substance again after a good tolerance break I will let you know. I spent my two trips locked indoors during the visuals and only peered trees through the window. But yes, on psychedelics in general I find homogeneous, noisy visual information appears like it has a crystal structure or is composed of mandalas.
Hell yeah definitely report back dude. I found that often when I'd attempt to use 25X-NBXX's indoors, I'd eventually still dive off my porch into a snowbank or go do a bunch of belligerent shit on a skateboard. Sometimes it really led me to chill at home though, much like other psychedelics the variance in the experiences induced is genuinely off the charts.

The association of homogenous, noisy visual information manifesting like a mandala is really interesting, for me it seems like a triangular spectrum between pareidolia type things like eyes, mandalas/geometric configurations and self-transformation. Pareidolic visuals tend to manifest from specific geometries of say the burl in rough cut woodgrain, or the headlights of a car that passes by me on the street. The mandala and geometric ones usually came from specifically high-noise visual input like the leaves of a tree or the slightly gray-ish color of the crystals of road salt in snowbanks. and the self-transformation tends to come from things where perceived "linework" feeds into itself already, think clouds or fur. It's fascinating how much these all vary from person to person, 25B-NBOH especially has this neat pastel-ish vibe for me with a much higher degree of intensity than 25E-NBOH, 25C-NBOMe or 25B-NBOMe but it's about on par with 25I-NBOMe in that respect for me. These are all probably extremely subjective though.
 
well, I waited two weeks and then tried 25b-nboh again. I should've done 1 mg, but I did 2. WAYYYYY too much oml. Yeah it was a +++/++++ experience. I administered it sublingually for 10 minutes and spat the remainder out. Spent 90 minutes of the peak bedridden going in and out of dissociative holes. That part reminded me a little of ketamine. Extremely visual. Quite a pleasant experience, but not overly euphoric. Everything was in motion, visuals as real as reality itself. Crazy tesselations everywhere. The carpet looked like a grey, crystalline ocean. Kept nodding off. Would lay back in bed and couldn't feel my body. Barely could think complete thoughts. Did some ketamine later, the two mixed in a very interesting way. I am a fan of this drug. However, at the peak of the 25b (and mind you, I would consider the amount I took to be an overdose, not something I plan on repeating) I had noticeable vasoconstriction in my hands and toes and my ... well. Anyways. Cool drug, but I should've done a lower dose.
 
@Esperighanto Do you have access to pure tested 25B-NBOH you can weigh yourself? I wonder what sublingual doses you'd say are comparable to the 15 - 30 mg range of 2C-B in intensity, and how you'd characterise it compared to 25E-NBOH (qualitatively and quantitatively).
 
This thread is about NBOH so there's scope for mentioning the NB4OH (and NB4OMe) materials. They share SAR with the likely active from Lanmaoa asiatica so seem worth investigating. I'd be interested to see what 25D-NB4OH/OMe is like.
 
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Also I know some are safer than others but it is an alphabet soup of names and I can never keep track.

I interpret this particular drug (the N-benzyl-PEAs) as excellent for academic research, but neutral from a recreational perspective. Purely based on the fact that they don't have a well-rounded receptor activity profile. They lack any semblance of 'self-regulation' which we see in the majority of natural drugs, this 'self-regulation' is an important aspect which ensures safety & sustainability.

These modern N-benzyl-PEAs are largely designed for 5HT2a potency which is great but I question how appropriate they are for the complex self-regulating human body; this drug class is quite 'single-minded' and lacks any 'safety features' in a way unlike the regular 2C class. I always keep in mind that the people designing these drugs have an incomplete understanding of the complex human body.
 
@Esperighanto Do you have access to pure tested 25B-NBOH you can weigh yourself? I wonder what sublingual doses you'd say are comparable to the 15 - 30 mg range of 2C-B in intensity, and how you'd characterise it compared to 25E-NBOH (qualitatively and quantitatively).
I do not have any on hand right now, what I had was all turned into a 2.5mg/mL vape juice as I tend to try to not keep dangerous things around in crystal forms. After a cat gets into your PCP supply because a door was accidentally left open, you start to lock shit down a little bit haha.
25D-NB4OH/OMe
I can't find the links right now, but Hyperlab has some writings about the para-substituted N-benzylated phenethylamines. They were some of the first folks tried, thanks to the ease of access for aniline and related compounds which made the initial clandestine work a breeze for those who explored it. Iirc every post was in Russian, one or two might've been Ukrainian? I certainly think that there's unexplored potential in NBXX's with a parasubstituted benzyl group attached, also the unique placement of the methyl in TGF-8027 is quite interesting, makes me wonder what else may be of interest there.

Sorry for the length between replies recently, life's been keeping me crazy busy but it will hopefully calm down for a little soon.
 
I certainly think that there's unexplored potential in NBXX's with a parasubstituted benzyl group attached, also the unique placement of the methyl in TGF-8027 is quite interesting, makes me wonder what else may be of interest there.
According to the TGF-8027 paper, an α-methyl improved 2A potency. Then there's the biased benzofuran NB...and check out Z7757 (a 3-phenylpiperidine NBOMe).

From July 6th:
Stereospecific Engagement of a Methyl-Sensitive ECL2 Anchor Site in 5-HT₂A by α-Substituted NBOH Derivatives
— doi.org/10.26434/chemrxiv.15005650/v2es
 
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