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Benzos The Benzodiazepine MEGA THREAD - Direct Benzo Questions Here

Psychiatirists are real drs. You come in there with a problem and their job is to fix it.

Some people benzos are the only thing that works.

Benzos are not right for all people and all situations.

Yes there are psychologists who are burnt out and don't really care any more. They will give you what ever to keep you coming back. Is this bad? Yes and no. If you have a patient who only responds to say Xanax and no other dr will give it to them because of the war on drugs, it's good. If they give a bunch of Xanax to someone who's goal is to be messed up all the time regardless of health issues, bad.

Benzos have there place in medicine. When I have a panic attack it helps bring me down to a level of Calmness and peace. It helps me tremendously.
 
Olanzapine has a harsh sed effect profile and can be very dirty feeling. It never worked for me but I appreciate it for its therapeutic potential outside of my antipsychotic medications.
 
psychiatrists aren't doctors.
Yes they are.

^ so you're saying my psychiatrist isn't a real doctor then, because I'm prescribed benzos everyday long term? That's a dangerous idea to be spreading on a harm reduction site. I do cognitive therapy with my doc as my primary means of therapy, and benzos are adjuncts. Maybe you just have different needs. Some people may need benzos in the long term, like those with sever panic attacks, or convulsive disorders.

I've been prescribed benzodiazepines for a decade, I'm prescribed three benzodiazepines, and I need them. I have debilitating conditions which do not respond to other forms of treatment and I have been prescribed them for the long-term, and the foreseeable future. My psychiatrists have been great doctors who I had a great doctor/patient trust relationship with.

This was critical for me because I have many psychiatric problems and most of them are treatment resistant to the first second even third lines of treatment. I'm extremely blessed to have a doctor that I can speak my mind to completely honestly and talk about medications without getting judged.

I'm not even dependent on benzodiazepines anymore, I haven't been for over a year. I take my benzodiazepines as needed, usually a couple times a week, if that, for debilitating insomnia, panic disorder, and PTSD. I no longer use benzodiazepines regularly for my severe general anxiety, and by using them infrequently and strictly as-needed, I have been able to make substantial progress with my mental illnesses. I put in a lot of hard work and alternative treatments, CBT, etc, and it paid off.

I totally agree that benzodiazepines are handed out like candy to the wrong people, which is a HUGE problem, but it's really dumb for you to say that my psychiatrist is not a real doctor, or is somehow a quack for prescribing me 3 potent benzodiazepines in the long-term. Yes, for most people, they couldn't handle it and it wouldn't be a good idea, but I'm not most people. I use these medications extremely carefully, as infrequently as possible, I dose responsibly, taking a fraction of the dose I'm supposed to take every day.

I am very experienced with these drugs, I know how they affect me and am thoroughly educated about these drugs, much more so than your average psych patient, but then again, I've been taking these medications for the better part of a decade.

TL;DR, there are people who legitimately need benzodiazepines in the long term, and there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is that benzodiazepines are given out like candy, and many people who take benzodiazepines long-term do not have debilitating conditions.


Psychiatirists are real drs. You come in there with a problem and their job is to fix it.

Some people benzos are the only thing that works.

Benzos are not right for all people and all situations.

Yes there are psychologists who are burnt out and don't really care any more. They will give you what ever to keep you coming back. Is this bad? Yes and no. If you have a patient who only responds to say Xanax and no other dr will give it to them because of the war on drugs, it's good. If they give a bunch of Xanax to someone who's goal is to be messed up all the time regardless of health issues, bad.

Benzos have there place in medicine. When I have a panic attack it helps bring me down to a level of Calmness and peace. It helps me tremendously.

Exactly.
 
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Olanzapine has a harsh sed effect profile and can be very dirty feeling. It never worked for me but I appreciate it for its therapeutic potential outside of my antipsychotic medications.

Did it have any Anxiolytic effect at all?
 
^ a pronounced one at that but it makes you gain weight , act sloppy, and other symptoms associated with anti-psychotics. More anxiolytic though. It might work for you, especially if you have manic, obsessive, or depressive feelings.
 
If anyone with a good amount of benzo experience could answer me this, how would you compare the 1mg, blue all the way through "home-made" etizolam pellets that some RC companys are selling, to other benzo's. Feel free to compare to any other benzo's, I can do potency per mg conversions myself.
 
Benzos are addictive, just like how opioids and amphetamines are addictive and the latter two are given to patients with severe chronic pain and ADD/ADHD, respectively, for decades and deccades. Benzos too are often prescribed long-term, despite the fact that the anxiolytics are suggested to be taken up to 4 weeks while the hypnotics only up to 2 weeks. I don't see as many long-term hypnotic benzo users nowadays (not as much Restoril or Halcion; but they have been taken over by Lunesta and Ambien along with quazepam, but the anxiolytics like alprazolam, clonazepam, lorazepam and diazepam are regularly prescribed to patients for years. I myself am scripted alprazolam for anxiety and panic attacks and have been getting them for the past 5 years. Before that I was on prazepam for 2 years.

For my ADHD I get Dexedrine IR 10 mg (20 mg 3x/day), depression (Lexapro 30 mg 1x/day), PTSD (CBT, Minipress 1 mg 2x/day), borderline personality disorder (DBT, Abilify 10 mg 2x/day), Anxiety & Panic (alprazolam 1 mg 3x/day) and my shrink finally gave me real hypnotics - Dalmane 30 mg, it's not what I wanted but it's better than the trazodone shit he was giving me before.
 
I've never taken an XR benzo. I was just rx'd Xanax XR 1mg, once a day, a few days ago. They seem to take the edge off the anxiety a little bit. My Dr said it lasts 24 hrs, however I think I may have been misinformed about that, but that's beside the point. But I also suffer insomnia. I was thinking of parachuting 2 of them so I can sleep, but how hard of a time will I have waking up for class in the am? It's 10pm, I need to be up at 8am, 8:30am at the latest. I thought maybe the crushing will speed up the release a little bit. The question is, will it be wore off enough by morning so I can get up?
 
Parachuting Xanax XR doesn't defeat the time release, which is meant to last 12 hours, not 24. The best thing you can do is take them as directed, you're going to run in to lots of trouble abusing the same medication you use for sleep and anxiety, I guarantee you that you can't kill two birds with one stone in that regard.
 
I hope everyone knows that XANAX XR is meant for a less abuseable medication but that wont stop it from happening. I actuallyadded this to my ir doses of xanax and I took my first dose of the XR and let me tell you...Theres no need to defeat the time release. Not only did it actually last Its been Hours and my anxiety is not the up and down ride it has always been with IR. I really like this XR shit. Just my two cents.
 
^Yeah. That's great to hear, how many hours does the XR last you vs the IR?

There is no defeating the time release of Xanax XR, all time-released versions of alprazolam use the same time-release mechanism as mandated by the FDA, which IIRC is the same or very similar time release mechanism used in the OP OxyContin. AKA, you're not going to break it by crushing it up, so don't try, take your medications as directed.
 
I'm not trying to abuse them in the sense that I'm trying to get high, just get to bed earlier. I knew the crushing wouldn't defeat the time release, but i figured it may help, even if was just a little bit. I don't plan on doing this every night, or doing it much longer. It's just that I'm seeing a new doctor, it was only my second visit with her and since we had my whole medical history to cover, we forgot to address the insomnia. So I'm going to see her again next week to address that issue. Otherwise, I do use as directed and it seems to be doing the trick for the anxiety.
 
Also, I cannot believe the recreational amount that most of you use! Holy shit. I used to have a Klonopin addiction, and after my tolerance surpassed 8-10mgs, I gave up on it, put that addiction down and moved on, thinking eh, what's the point in it anymore? And considering Xanax is stronger, and a lot of you are using 20mg and up, in addition to potentiators. Wow.
 
^Yeah. That's great to hear, how many hours does the XR last you vs the IR?

There is no defeating the time release of Xanax XR, all time-released versions of alprazolam use the same time-release mechanism as mandated by the FDA, which IIRC is the same or very similar time release mechanism used in the OP OxyContin. AKA, you're not going to break it by crushing it up, so don't try, take your medications as directed.
Honestly I can take 6mgs of Xanax but I have chose to take no more than 5mgs. Anxiety was getting rough. Rebound anxiety was awful with the IR so I had to try this. I notice a night and day difference. IR combined with XR is the best way to go. It takes about 40minutes to begin feeling any affect but once you do its not heavy its very gradual and smooth. It takes the shitty up and down time away. It lasts about three times as long as the IR imho. It also feels a little stronger though its not.

If you cant sleep at night your doctor needs to get a fuckin clue. XR is not meant for sleep especially not xanax xr. I would ask for Serax if you want sleep or Temazepam. Xanax XR is Not a sleep aid. At all.


in bettsr words tricomb

xr-6-7 hrs maybe more

ir-2-3 hours max anymore.
 
^ a pronounced one at that but it makes you gain weight , act sloppy, and other symptoms associated with anti-psychotics. More anxiolytic though. It might work for you, especially if you have manic, obsessive, or depressive feelings.

The side effect profile of anti-psychotics is by no means worse than that of benzodiazepines. I'd strongly recommend them.
 
Xanax xr is great stuff. They kick in slowly over about 4 hours with a long peak I feel it into the next morning But I am debating if its really what I need. I have been on Xanax now forthree years exactly almost. I take the IR and XR together and to anyone who wants to be on Xanax XR You may want Regular IR Xanax with it as XR is not really immediate acting ime so far.


Xanax IR-Wears off Completely after 3-4 hours for me maybe 2.

Xaxan XR-I can get a good 8-9 hours out of so far. I think I said 18 hours in another post.

I plan on making a xanax xr thread to answer some of the dosing questions. It takes an Hour to kick in so be aware
 
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