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Benzos The Benzodiazepine MEGA THREAD - Direct Benzo Questions Here

Beginner question about Xanax

Hi,
Yesterday I got hold of 15 something Xanax-pills and happily ingested 1-2 to start with with; Nothing happened expect a that a slight blurry drunk feeling did apper. Times went on and as i increased the dose sensations increased (hard to keep balance, felt somewhat punch drunk). I even went so far to make a solution for rectal administration, to no great effect.

When I use Zopiclone i get a short lived euforia (before the z-drug firmly has me under it's command) so I had expected something similar with Xanax but perhaps I was wrong.

This is Ksalol Xanax btw, aby suggenstions regarding more eurohoric drugs (no opiods plz).
 
I'm not sure if it's really possible to get euphoria from benzos, I never have anyway. Xanax just tends to make me feel content and drowsy. Yeah kinda drunk really, but in a nicer way. So I don't think your experience was particularly strange.
Also keep in mind each benzo affects people differently. Some people will have way stronger reactions to a benzo that others might feel nothing with.
 
sounds pretty normal benzo reaction to me. they aren't really "fun" drugs, cause blackouts and bad physical addicion.

smoke some weed?
 
Everybody is affected differently and people's opinions vary obviously... But in my opinion if you don't like the euphoria from xannies, it being the short-potent acting benzo that it is, you probably wont feel too 'euphoric' off any other benzos. This is MY opinion obviously, but in my area, xanex is the benzo of choice for nearly everybody, and in my experience it doesn't last as long as valium or klonopin but it has a more desirable euphoria to me, if you even want to call it euphoria. Opiates to me are euphoria but you told me not to mention those so I won't!
 
ohsee80 said:
Everybody is affected differently and people's opinions vary obviously... But in my opinion if you don't like the euphoria from xannies, it being the short-potent acting benzo that it is, you probably wont feel too 'euphoric' off any other benzos. This is MY opinion obviously, but in my area, xanex is the benzo of choice for nearly everybody, and in my experience it doesn't last as long as valium or klonopin but it has a more desirable euphoria to me, if you even want to call it euphoria. Opiates to me are euphoria but you told me not to mention those so I won't!
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This!

slobodavan said:
any suggestions regarding more euphoric drugs (no opiods plz).
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Cannabis - Euphoric for some and not for others. This is probably the safest recreational drug you can use. Worth a try for sure
MDMA - Very euphoric, but only buy if your source is reliable. Ecstasy can be cut with dangerous and unpleasant drugs, so venture carefully.
Mushrooms - These are not for everyone and not purely for euphoria. I would only do these if you are also looking for introspection and spiritual growth/change.
 
We're not here to suggest drugs to abuse. Benzodiazepines aren't inherently euphoric anyways, and from a z-drug? I call placebo. merging with the megathread.

The reason your rectal solution failed is because alprazolam is not water soluble, as I'm sure you saw when you tried to get it into solution.
 
tricomb said:
Nah, I don't get any paradoxical effects, as I said, my body reacts well to triazolobenzodiazepines, namely triazolam and alprazolam (which is also very effective for PTSD). I tolerate benzodiazepines in general rather well without much in terms of side effects.

Triazolam hands down is just an extremely potent hypnotic.
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I have PTSD and I'm also prescribed alprazolam. I do CBT for my PTSD and I also go to group sessions. I have a lot of nightmares and I get these episodes where I am just riddled with fear of everything. The alprazolam "helps", but it barely touches my PTSD. The Xanax just helps me with my general anxiety, but when I have serious fearful or anxiety ridden episodes that are PTSD related - Xanax does nothing to calm it.
 
Ok..looks like ill scrap the valerian root then. Does anyone know of anything that will help gaba upregulation besides magnesium. People on here have suggested dxm but that did nothing for me.
 
I'm sure it helps to maintain a proper diet and regular exercise, ideally 50 mins/day minimum, 5 days a week.

Sorry I can't be more helpful than that, I'm not sure of anything that helps restore GABA levels, besides abstaining from benzodiazepines and the like.
 
tricomb said:
We're not here to suggest drugs to abuse. Benzodiazepines aren't inherently euphoric anyways, and from a z-drug? I call placebo. merging with the megathread.

The reason your rectal solution failed is because alprazolam is not water soluble, as I'm sure you saw when you tried to get it into solution.
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I have no benzo or z-drug tolerance to speak of, but I have used them sparingly in the past. I contend that with etizolam especially, about 30 minutes after taking 2mg, i get a small kick of euphoria and mood lift before i feel sedated. Maybe only for a few minutes though. I have gotten roughly the same thing from zolpidem and zopiclone powder. The few minutes right before i fall asleep both give me a hint of euphoria along with the usual slightly trippy effects
 
i against i said:
sounds pretty normal benzo reaction to me. they aren't really "fun" drugs, cause blackouts and bad physical addicion.

smoke some weed?
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I smoke so I dont have to take the benzo's not a big fan of them and they dont make me feel any different, but smoking the herb does wonders for me so I use that more then anything.
 
Znegative said:
I'd say if THC works better to calm you down stick to that by all means. I'm envious of all you guys that get mellowed out on pot. I become a total freak.
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i feel the same way, i'm so so envious of them too.
if i smoke pot i have to have a benzo or i'll turn into a rabid monster....
 
how are doctors allowed to prescribe strong benzos like klonopins and xanax strength doses but can only administer pain meds for a certain amount of time?

isn't there the same addiction potential with both?
 
rocknroll702 said:
how are doctors allowed to prescribe strong benzos like klonopins and xanax strength doses but can only administer pain meds for a certain amount of time?

isn't there the same addiction potential with both?
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psychiatrists aren't doctors.
they just want your fees you pay them, along with the drug company sponsorship... it's a hard fact truth

a proper psychiatrist would never prescribe benzos for a long time. it's a shame there aren't many of them around anymore.
2-4 weeks is the longest time a person should theoretically be prescribed them, at fixed doses, so there is no danger of tolerance and dependence. but many disregard this as they don't have to follow that rule.

if you are in true chronic pain then you will be prescribed pain meds as you need them.

it's a whole different ball park really, an injury to your leg for example will require pain meds for a specific amount of time before they aren't needed because your body has healed.
benzos, according to psyciatrists, will always be needed because you will always suffer from anxiety therefore you will always need them.

junglebook - i was in the same boat once, benzo, opiate and amphetamine wise anyway. i know your pain, never really liked weed anyway.
 
^ so you're saying my psychiatrist isn't a real doctor then, because I'm prescribed benzos everyday long term? That's a dangerous idea to be spreading on a harm reduction site. I do cognitive therapy with my doc as my primary means of therapy, and benzos are adjuncts. Maybe you just have different needs. Some people may need benzos in the long term, like those with sever panic attacks, or convulsive disorders.
 
Psychiatrists are doctors - i.e. they go to med school before specialising. Some people do need benzos long-term (I have for 2 years), but after a few weeks/months of daily use, you need them anyway to avoid w/d.
 
entheo said:
^ so you're saying my psychiatrist isn't a real doctor then, because I'm prescribed benzos everyday long term? That's a dangerous idea to be spreading on a harm reduction site. I do cognitive therapy with my doc as my primary means of therapy, and benzos are adjuncts. Maybe you just have different needs. Some people may need benzos in the long term, like those with sever panic attacks, or convulsive disorders.
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apologies, what i mean is that benzos CAN be prescribed long term, there are just a lot of psychiatric doctors at the moment are handing them out as if they were candy to people who do not need them for a long term period.
if you suffer from panic attacks, then i can understand the point in being prescribed benzos long term to be used when you are at a dire situation.

as for convulsive disorders they are usually treated by doctors rather than psyciatrists, yes clonazepam for instance has great theraputic value, but used everyday as an anti-epileptic it loses its usefulness.

most aren't real doctors. sure they go to med school, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are set out to save lives, there is A LOT of money in the psychiatric business.

prescribing benzo's to an anixety sufferer for a long term period (i hope you can agree with me on this) is frankly unprofessional. they never mention the risks of coming off the medication when you are first given them, and many do not refer to therapists or CBT either.

they know of the dangers associated with many of the drugs that they give out to patients, and fail to mention them as they hand that precious Rx to their patient who will be instantly relieved of their anxiety by one small tablet. the same goes for a lot of other psyciatric medicine thrown about the place.

i have seen 6 different psychiatrists, all of them being considered some of the best in our country, in all but one i walked out with a prescription on my first visit for an SSRI, benzo, or lyrica on my FIRST VISIT.
 
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