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The anxiety is crushing-Kratom withdrawal

Ninae said:
You need to give it time. The last time I came off Kratom I was depressed for a month then I was aggressive and extremely stressed for a month. Then the stress started to subside, but it's gradual.
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This is happening with me because I´m getting sober from Methadone.
I used to take them for over 7 years. I now fear having no more endorphin being produced by my body.
 
Oh god what a fitting post. After 7 years I'm finally sober from kratom. Took seeing a world reknown specialist who is very big in the psychedelic studies and cannabis decriminalization. Anyway long story short on klonopin as well. To get off plain leaf it took 32 mgs of suboxone a day + namenda to potentiate the MU stimulation. Coming off that crap was the best thing I ever did. Granted I'm now on Methadone/Oxy for exteme debilitating pain BUT I can EAT once again !!

OP - My Advice see if you can into a sub program. I know a lot of people think sub for kratom withdrawal is like using a bazoka to shoot a mouse but the wds are INTENSE I mean FAR more intense then I ever anticipated. It was sheer hell round the clock. Constantly going in and out of wds couldn't eat was emaciated. UGH ! Good riddance. Best of luck feel free to message me if I can be of any help.
 
sonicwhite said:
Well day three. This is the farthest I have went without kratom and I feel like i have a tummy ache all the time. Like there is air in my stomach. The anxiety really isn't there all that much anymore.......cosmic, I would but I have zero money so I have to use what I have which is klonopin and phenibut. But my anxiety is at bay so now on to how to fix my upset stomach issues.
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klonopin and phenibut are bot adictive. Mucuna pruriens raise your dopamine levels, but it is not adictive. Iboga is not adictive either.
You say you don't have money to buy those supplements (you can buy them at ebay, they would be 20$ for the mucuna and 50$ for the iboga -mucuna pruriens is not a drug, but food supplement, so i expect it is not included in the "no-pricing rule", otherwise we have also to include grocery items like potatoes, tomatoes etc...) and you don't need to buy both; if you just spend those 20 bucks and buy the mucuna, and have 1 bean a day, you will probably feel much better after a week eating 1 or 2 beans daily in the mornings.

I guess you are getting your klonopin and phenibut for free then...
 
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keeponkeepnon said:
After 7 years I'm finally sober from kratom. Took seeing a world reknown specialist who is very big in the psychedelic studies and cannabis decriminalization. Granted I'm now on Methadone/Oxy for exteme debilitating pain BUT I can EAT once again !!
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sure, we are all different, but we have to agree here -and we can check out the stories if necessary- most people get worst withdrawals and worse side effects with methadone/oxy than with kratom. We are all different, but there is more typical and less typical reactions. yours reaction to kratom, compared to the reaction to methadone/oxy, doesn't seem typical. The typical reaction would be to find much harder to quit and manage side effects from methadone/oxy.

I never had those problems with kratom. As long as I had enough kratom i was fine. The only problem was to quit it. Never tried methatdone, but I know people who have tried both methadone and kratom and told me it was much harder to withdraw from methadone, and it had more nasty sideffects while they were addicted to it.
But we are all different, and there are also exceptions and exceptional individuals.
 
I agree with cosmic, I guess i just ain't taking it seriously enough....Thanks for the sound advice on the food supplements.
 
I wouldn't worry about it I highly doubt 150 grams would even read on the w/d meter unless you already had a previous addiction to opiates.
 
Crazyfrog said:
Jesus! I just got a order of 150mg of kratom and i come across this thread!
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NO! I was trying to do a pound in one week, that gives you an idea how much damage control I needed. No wonder i was seeing double vision. I thru it out I had no other way of escaping the grips of addiction i was in......I would stop for a day than use and I would only get a pinch out of it so i could have a mood lift. It worked but if i used the next day i would be jerking myself asleep almost like a seizure and i would have double vision and bad nausea......I order some more but know now to respect the plant and YOU should too.
 
sonicwhite said:
NO! I was trying to do a pound in one week, that gives you an idea how much damage control I needed. No wonder i was seeing double vision. I thru it out I had no other way of escaping the grips of addiction i was in......I would stop for a day than use and I would only get a pinch out of it so i could have a mood lift. It worked but if i used the next day i would be jerking myself asleep almost like a seizure and i would have double vision and bad nausea......I order some more but know now to respect the plant and YOU should too.
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Well said. Respect the plant and it will resowct you back. I'm going to dose small.
 
I will make darn sure that i will take it lightly. I mean the kratom itself....And not try to push my limits.....In my party days i could ride with the best of them but harm reduction is always the way to go.
 
I heard mention that oxy or methadone was good for withdrawals and Kratom addicts.
This could hold true guys it applies to me. For some reason Kratom became more potent and powerful for me than morphine ever would! In fact if i was using Kratom daily and switched to morphine there'd be an extreme cross tolerance, and i couldn't nod (I'm talking like 5+ 100mg pills wouldn't do a Damn thing over the course of a few hours. I couldn't believe it!
I essentially wasted hundreds of dollars for pills that didn't work on me at ALL anymore.
And now we're back to Kratom, with 4-7g doses once - twice a day.

Weird eh?
 
Thanks everyone for help I guess I came to the wrong place just by passed my question well carry on will try and get some help with people that will respond dissapointed real disappinted
 
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