The 6-APB thread

[FiR3]

My friend just analyzed a sample of purported 6-APB and found it to contain 6-APB, caffeine, and a-PVP. This falls perfectly in line with the "Mad CAT Prolintane" a-PVP and green dye admixture which has begun to circulate. My guess would be that in preliminary tests 6-APB was found to be too serotonergic to induce truly fiendish meph type binging, so they added a DARI to increase the fiendishness quotient and, of course, increase profits. This would also make sense as 6-APB is a step toward IAP which, speaking in terms of fiendishness, is a step in the wrong direction.

EDIT: An even more obvious reason to cut the 6-APB with a-PVP is that a-PVP is much cheeper and less less difficult to synthesize.

Sorry to bring this up again but IMO this should be the topic OF THE DAY.
if the pellets really do contain α-PVP and it really is illegal in the UK [as stated by nuke in the ADD thread], then everyone in the UK whom has purchased the product is technically under illegality[!].

As for HR, if a substance of the Pyrovalerone family is in the pellets this should be well known. Only speculation can arise from this, but if it's true, it would make sense that the euphoria subsides into a stimulation hours after ingesting a pellet, as users reported, opposed to the samples. And I, as a sample tester myself, can confirm that little to no stimulation was felt hours after ingesting the tan sample that came from the same source, just a nice warm after-glow.

 

[JackHereruk]

Sorry to bring this up again but IMO this should be the topic OF THE DAY.
if the pellets really do contain α-PVP and it really is illegal in the UK [as stated by nuke in the ADD thread], then everyone in the UK whom has purchased the product is technically under illegality[!].

As for HR, if a substance of the Pyrovalerone family is in the pellets this should be well known. Only speculation can arise from this, but if it's true, it would make sense that the euphoria subsides into a stimulation hours after ingesting a pellet, as users reported, opposed to the samples. And I, as a sample tester myself, can confirm that little to no stimulation was felt hours after ingesting the tan sample that came from the same source, just a nice warm after-glow.

α-PVP (α-Pyrrolidinovalerophenone) was banned along with mephedrone. See the ACMD report that lead to the band here I agree this is the hot topic of the day. The person that posted that result has not said whether it was a "official" pill or powder that were tested, they have also not posted any evidence, just stated the result. One to watch though.

 

[questa]

Now 12 days since i took a pellet and still have a headache at the top of my head, if that makes sense.

interesting. i got a headache after a couple of days, which i have now had for 12 days too. very slight, but annoying and starting to wonder if its ever going to go, as it isnt getting better.

it is indeed at the 'top of the head', a dull constant ache which i am totally fed up of and surely hope goes soon.

i suspect the pelelt had something to do with this - 12 day headaches for me are unheared of. or 12 hours for that matter.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

Sorry to bring this up again but IMO this should be the topic OF THE DAY.
if the pellets really do contain α-PVP and it really is illegal in the UK [as stated by nuke in the ADD thread], then everyone in the UK whom has purchased the product is technically under illegality[!].

As for HR, if a substance of the Pyrovalerone family is in the pellets this should be well known. Only speculation can arise from this, but if it's true, it would make sense that the euphoria subsides into a stimulation hours after ingesting a pellet, as users reported, opposed to the samples. And I, as a sample tester myself, can confirm that little to no stimulation was felt hours after ingesting the tan sample that came from the same source, just a nice warm after-glow.

i felt no afterglow just a wired up feeling off my pellet, would a person be arrested if he bought a chem thinking it was legal?

 

[FiR3]

α-PVP (α-Pyrrolidinovalerophenone) was banned along with mephedrone. See the ACMD report that lead to the band here I agree this is the hot topic of the day. The person that posted that result has not said whether it was a "official" pill or powder that were tested, they have also not posted any evidence, just stated the result. One to watch though.

Verified! Indeed, α-PVP is on that list. Also, have to agree with your statement until refuted: "The person that posted that result has not said whether it was a "official" pill or powder that were tested, they have also not posted any evidence, just stated the result."

i felt no afterglow just a wired up feeling off my pellet, would a person be arrested if he bought a chem thinking it was legal?

Scooby, I was referring to the "2nd synth" tan-coloured "official sample" powder, not the pellets. The afterglow was present with the sample powder, opposed to the stimulation felt after ingesting only one pellet [needed 2 lorazepam 1mg pills to bring me down...], so the "α-PVP and caffeine in the pellets" theory would seem plausible [at least after my own subjective comparisons].

 

[Xorkoth]

That would make sense, because I didn't have the powder samples but the pellets definitely left me more stimulated and made me sweat more than expected.

 

[FiR3]

^ that, and now that I think about it, 1mg lorazepam generally did the trick for me coming down from methylone/meph, so a very subtle, non-experience-alterling but long-lasting stimulant [MDPV hat exactly this effect on me, so a cousin of it would presumably do the same] present in the pellets could explain this.

 

[JackHereruk]

i felt no afterglow just a wired up feeling off my pellet, would a person be arrested if he bought a chem thinking it was legal?

You would be arrested legal or not if found with powder or pills. They would then decide whether to prosecute based on testing. So yes you would likely be prosecuted, there is no "i thought it was legal, honest guv" defence to possession.

 

[Xorkoth]

I'm thinking about getting a gram of this powder that is supposed to be 6-APB according to a few reviews.Not sure yet though. It's such a better price and I know a few people here have reported that as surprising as it is, it seems to be the real thing. Of course, I have no way at all of verifying that.

 

[wee beefy]

would a person be arrested if he bought a chem thinking it was legal?
dont think so, they would be more intersted in the vendors. IMO

 

[Mullered]

I got very little stimulation off all three of my samples. They were all from the 2nd synth. The marquis results of my samples were notably different to pictures I have seen of the official pellets as you can see in the picture.

The blue / black one is 6-apb (2nd synth), the orange one is something being sold as 6-apb and the clear one is a dodgy street pill

Interestingly it took very little 6-apb to turn it that black,probably less than 5mg

 

[chasing_s]

ya gonna do a full report chasing , very interested to hear what ya gotta say

I started doing one at the time but gave up after about an hour after the 80mg dose.

subjectively both from the reagents and the experience standpoint the powdered stuff was the same as the pellets. though certainly to me 80mg of the powder was definitely stronger than one pellet. and may even be stronger than 1.5 pellets.

 

[Mullered]

I started doing one at the time but gave up after about an hour after the 80mg dose.

subjectively both from the reagents and the experience standpoint the powdered stuff was the same as the pellets. though certainly to me 80mg of the powder was definitely stronger than one pellet. and may even be stronger than 1.5 pellets.

When you say powder are you on about official samples or something else?

 

[Mullered]

Vendor discussion isnt allowed here.

 

[Xorkoth]

I unapproved 14 posts in the last 2 pages referring to vendors and information specific to vendor sites which will allow people to pretty easily find the sites you're talking about, which we must also remove. The post above mine has some good advice. BL is not the place to discuss anything vendor-related.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

I started doing one at the time but gave up after about an hour after the 80mg dose.

subjectively both from the reagents and the experience standpoint the powdered stuff was the same as the pellets. though certainly to me 80mg of the powder was definitely stronger than one pellet. and may even be stronger than 1.5 pellets.

was it a good eexpereience?

 

[JedTheHumanoid]

Sorry to bring this up again but IMO this should be the topic OF THE DAY.
if the pellets really do contain α-PVP and it really is illegal in the UK [as stated by nuke in the ADD thread], then everyone in the UK whom has purchased the product is technically under illegality[!].

As for HR, if a substance of the Pyrovalerone family is in the pellets this should be well known. Only speculation can arise from this, but if it's true, it would make sense that the euphoria subsides into a stimulation hours after ingesting a pellet, as users reported, opposed to the samples. And I, as a sample tester myself, can confirm that little to no stimulation was felt hours after ingesting the tan sample that came from the same source, just a nice warm after-glow.

This is making sense to me - absolutely non of the samplers reported excessive stimulation but after my experience (I'll do a TR later after a no doubt deathly day at work) the lovely 6-apb feeling fades away and then you are left with this stimmed feeling which is ok for a while but rapidly becomes very annoying. What could have possessed them to do something so stupid....?

 

[Scoobysnacks]

This is making sense to me - absolutely non of the samplers reported excessive stimulation but after my experience (I'll do a TR later after a no doubt deathly day at work) the lovely 6-apb feeling fades away and then you are left with this stimmed feeling which is ok for a while but rapidly becomes very annoying. What could have possessed them to do something so stupid....?

totally agree Jed , all it doing is putting people off, who the fook wants to be stimmed 12 hours later?

 

[ashtray girl]

Lots of people want to be stimmed for 12hours, but they should have that choice.

Those who want a clean A-6PB experience should be able to buy it pure. Capitalist profiteering at work, yet again.

 

[Banjo Fury]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on this site right now and its not being helped by certain posters constantly spamming.

The test in the ADD forum is on an 'unofficial capsule' - this seems to have 'mdpv' added. (obviously not good)

The 'official pellets' (the ones that work) - have not been tested .
as yet. Why is this?

It will be better for everyone when powder is released but I for one will not be sampling this rc until I know exactly what is in it.

Start low and try not to re-dose.

Ps. To the popular poster on here actively promoting vendors on another site - you should be ashamed of yourself.