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Promising to hear of it's activity, but I have news. I am concerned about this new form due to the other products being sold. I must advise caution due to the stuff I bought with it. If I'm not mistaken, this 5-IAI is identical to some cathinone analogues in potency and effects. I may be wrong, hope I am, just a warning. I will simply advise continued caution until there is confirmation of identified RC's! I am aware this is not in direct relation to the thread topic, but it is closely relevent to the unconfirmed crystal discussion being reported here.

Hey, it may not be perfect or always on topic, but it has all resulted in some helpful stuff from everyone ;) The randomness is why I love it hehe
 
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Would be difficult to compare judging from mere effects listed on Wiki, Could be sold as anything as long it resembles ephedrine in any way.

Argh, hard to know what is in circulation now. I'll soon find out about this 6-APB crystal. I'm just a bit concerned now as the resembling vasoconstriction in their alternate product is too familiar to a cathinone high in stimulant effects from my experience, my experience with Butylone was the only other time any stimulant has caused this level of the uncomfortable and memorable experience in comparable dosage, typically it is the only stimulant I suffer from low tolerance of and could have ended up in hospital after trying, so I'd recognise this feeling anywhere. The level of vasoconstriction along with short breath, jitters, familiar borderline delusional head space being very trippy upon end of session are all contributing to my suspicion, though not exactly like, there are so many similarities, coincidence? I will keep an open mind regarding legitimacy, but my doubts are very real at this time. I guess there can only be hope that they are in fact the real deal. At least I have the crystal here to sample and compare with previous experiences, can't wait to test that, and wish I picked it before this potent 5-eyes >_< I can only consider the only alternative be that I'm sensitive to more than one stimulant should these effects I experienced have been purely subjective, despite the many similarities I can recall a few significant differences in the experiences such as lack of pupil dilation and less intense energy rush, never know if what effects one may effect another equally. All just mere speculation from a long an interesting day, loool. This may prove a long and interesting night yet, judging from my current state of wakefulness xD

Oh well, we live and learn...At any rate we live lol
 
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Hm. Had a some of what the headshops here are selling as 6-apb. 400mg gel caps packed full. I'd swear it was Methylone in 'em, with a bit of filler. I'm going to go back & warn them they should test it, or they'll be seriously fucked. Considering they're less stupid than their competition, they might actually take some notice...
 
Would be surprising to see any methylone left in the country, I recall it was the first and hardest hit by the import ban taking effect, as soon as the first batch was confiscated everywhere went dry! maybe worth asking about official stock and dropping a quiet chat with em about the others they have, but it is their own risk if they don't listen dude ;)
 
Purely subjective opinion, like, but I'd put some of my own money on it being that. Fuck knows what half of the garbage that those shops sell is. Their mephedrone & the other BKs were always good, and they've been running longer than I've been alive (got stock older than me. They still sell Sensational Alex Harvey Band patches for your denim cut-off). Plus, their biggest rival is an unbelievable cretin who will kill someone one of these days. I go in & talk to her every couple of weeks for a laugh.
Sorry for off-topicness, but you know how it is when you start rambling...
 
It's the same most places now, both online and in headshops. For a good year or so I maintained the same trustworthy reliable suppliers of my RC's as soon as I discovered the RC market. Since this ban people are selling and most worryingly buying any random crap as long as it says 'High' on the label. What's most concerning is even the trustworthy vendors now have trouble holding their reputation because of all the crappy powders and stuff floating around. Dont worry about rambling, I've spent most of the day rambling, it's related to the topic indirectly, but still just about on topic. Kinda ;)
 
Most universities that have a dedicated chemistry department will be able to do both NMR, Mass spectrometry, and Gas chromatography work.

They have to do outside work to cover the costs of their own usage.

You will find them a lot cheaper than private companies as well.

So, you just write or phone up the local university chemistry department for NMR? Or do you have to know someone who works there? I don't know anyone who works chemistry at a university.
 
I've got some mint growing in the garden will that help?


lol...only gods herb will help , mint is for lamb consumption only:P

I's always used bluelight for reference purposes and haven't had the desire to join before, but all this has so many answered questions and anyone who's asked them has been swept under the carpet.
For example ealier on in this thread you stated that the european 6-APB (orange) was not 6-APB, then when the NMR was mentioned you stated that it was an impure 6-APB, and now again you are syaing it is not 6-APB, how can we honestly take an opinion of someone who keeps changing their mind when it suits their post?

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If i am promoting the orange 6-apb why have i said in the previous post the following....

FACT!
Not one of these chemicals out there has been proved to be 6-APB as there is no independant reference point, and that goes for all of them (Euro, Powder, Pellets)
FACT!

Surely if i was promoting the orange 6-apb i would not have stated the above.

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I honestly thought by joining this forum and getting involved in this thread my input would have brought some thought provoking questions involved in this chemical.
Numerous times i have asked people direct questions and all they do is divert from the question and state something positive about the pellets. Not once has someone said ok, lets look at this logically and tried to come up with some conclusive answers.

I really regret that something positive hasn't came out of this thread, as if someone had got got a sample of 6-APB analysed, then everyone would have had a reference to base things on.

The world of research chemicals are changing in front of our eyes as we speak and people need to start asking the question, how do we know what this is for definite. The are now too many chemicals available now and we need to know which one is which for definite, we need to reduce risks as much as possible!
Remember this will be banned in the next month or two and it will be time to move on to the next unknown.........

One final thing, i will not be bullied of this thread and if there is anyone here who does not believe that vendors are posting here to gain credibilty then more fool them.

Caveat emptor!

I hoped someone like yourself ( educated ) relaying there fears to everyone that people may of listened to and hopefully as ya say think and question things, but alas NO, the only time when this place gets animated is when ya slag off official pillits/powder, then the shit hits the fan, this place full of vendor's lovers and shills
 
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I hoped someone like yourself ( educated ) relaying there fears to everyone that people may of listened to and hopefully as ya say think and question things, but alas NO, the only time when this place gets animated is when ya slag off official pillits/powder, then the shit hits the fan, this place full of vendor's lovers and shills

I don't get what you think there is to question - the 'official' that you seem so keen to cast doubt on hasn't arrived yet (less than a day left now), so what's the need to cast doubt on it?

The only reason i can think of to do this would be to sow enough doubt on it to send gullible people looking elsewhere before the official arrives - people who may then be taken in by dubious claims about self-serving conspiracies which they may find in certain blogs, and consequently make rash purchases thinking their ahead of the curve, only to find out they're taking some Eric based NRG crap (even if they can convince themselves that it might me like md while their on it).

Let the worth of each substance (whatever's in them) be proved by the trip reports they generate: The original samples passed this test; all 'unofficial' so far is epic fail; we'll find out about the official pellets tomorrow (where's the conspiracy?).
 
update - bitter/sweet tale - don't bother with this one people!!!

Thought i was going to die - got your attention?

DON'T GO NEAR THIS CRYSTAL/ORANGE/EURO STUFF AT ANY DOSE.

yes, i had way too much but i wouldn't go near it it all if i were you, based on similar reports on here at lower doses - not worth it.

as mentioned went to this beer festival, my friend driving, i felt like shit - no sleep, still stimmed with no positive effect. wanted to curl up and die...well, i nearly got my wish...

suddenly out of nowhere the mild shooting 'zaps' i had been getting in my legs all day went on overdrive, pins and needles, followed by sharp jerks of involuntary movement - like i was 'fitting'. followed by a bout of hellish cramp.

heart nearly pounding through my chest, my ability to breath became less and less until i could only manage short quick gasps. very dizzy and feeling sick.

my mate swerved off the road onto footpath to get me out of the car - at this point he said i was whispering with the shortest breath "get me to the hospital" (i don't remember this, nor the 10 mins i was sat on the footpath trying to catch my breath) i hadn't passed out, just not there 'in spirit'.

BITTER!

Tried to get up and felt very heavy on my feet - probably coz i'd not eaten anything really, but slowly started to feel better, sickness and dizzyness slowly disappearing.

we discussed going home (or potentially a hospital), but i knew i was feeling better all the time and since we were about 5 mins from our destination, i decided i could manage it and i really needed to get out and see normal people, doing normal things and not just lie on my couch waiting to sleep!!

Once there and in i started to feel better and better, until i realised i felt better than i'd done all day. Was enjoying a pint of cider and getting more and more chattier and confident with every passing minute. Then it dawned on me - i'd come up again! http://i.bluelight.ru/s/eek.gif No where near on the same scale as yesterday but definitely feeling warm, confident and happy in a mellow contented way. A complete difference to how i'd felt for the last 12 hours of hell!

Had about 5 pints of cider and enjoyed the evening - chatting to my mate and two hot women, sampled some local bands....all good.

Got home at about 10pm, ready for my bed (yay!) and happy i could put all this madness behind me.

That is where this bitter/sweet story turns bitter again i'm afraid people.

After about 3 hours of alcohol-induced sleep (clearly not enough after being awake at this point for 39 straight hours!) BANG! I'm awake again, heart beating faster, overly stimmed with nowhere to go.http://i.bluelight.ru/s/argh.gif

lying there, nowhere near sleeping but REALLY needing to - whilst your legs jump about like they have been possessed by flatly himself - is NOT my idea of fun.

So here i am again, still not slept, still not had a proper meal in days, banging headache, random quick flashbacks of the last few days horrific events stopping me from having logical thoughts and generally knowing that my once sharp brain has been severely damaged.

My legs feel like i can't put weight on them and the muscles feel really tender and sore. And yes, still keep getting little leg spasms - i just keep checking they are not blue!!!

Oh and my dick is still like a peanut.
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Three main reasons then that you should stay away from this:

1. I took waaaay too much but even then - i had about 8-10 hours of good fun and then 33 hours (and counting) of sheer hellish side-effects....that doesn't sit right with me.

2. A second 'come up', not initiated by me, a full day after first ingesting? I'll be the one to decide when i'm high thanks. The half-life of this stuff is just plain scary. How do I know i'm not gonna go off my box at work tommorow??!!

3. No one actually knows if this is real 6-apb or some other random and/or dangerous chem. No one. Even the vendor just points at a random NMR that could have been drawn by a pre-schooler with an Etcha-sketch and says "its that one..." Is it? Is it really?

Maybe i'm just too old for this shit now. Love to you all, i hope my ramblings have been useful.

OUT.
 
Glad you made it! Sounds lke an awful time! Hope you'll be feelin your old self soon matey, how much roughly did you take?

I think that a number of these RC's are in fact combinations of stimulants in disguise, judging from our recent experiences. It's just like NRG all over again...
 
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Thought i was going to die - got your attention?

DON'T GO NEAR THIS CRYSTAL/ORANGE/EURO STUFF AT ANY DOSE.

yes, i had way too much but i wouldn't go near it it all if i were you, based on similar reports on here at lower doses - not worth it.

as mentioned went to this beer festival, my friend driving, i felt like shit - no sleep, still stimmed with no positive effect. wanted to curl up and die...well, i nearly got my wish...

suddenly out of nowhere the mild shooting 'zaps' i had been getting in my legs all day went on overdrive, pins and needles, followed by sharp jerks of involuntary movement - like i was 'fitting'. followed by a bout of hellish cramp.

heart nearly pounding through my chest, my ability to breath became less and less until i could only manage short quick gasps. very dizzy and feeling sick.

my mate swerved off the road onto footpath to get me out of the car - at this point he said i was whispering with the shortest breath "get me to the hospital" (i don't remember this, nor the 10 mins i was sat on the footpath trying to catch my breath) i hadn't passed out, just not there 'in spirit'.

BITTER!

Tried to get up and felt very heavy on my feet - probably coz i'd not eaten anything really, but slowly started to feel better, sickness and dizzyness slowly disappearing.

we discussed going home (or potentially a hospital), but i knew i was feeling better all the time and since we were about 5 mins from our destination, i decided i could manage it and i really needed to get out and see normal people, doing normal things and not just lie on my couch waiting to sleep!!

Once there and in i started to feel better and better, until i realised i felt better than i'd done all day. Was enjoying a pint of cider and getting more and more chattier and confident with every passing minute. Then it dawned on me - i'd come up again! http://i.bluelight.ru/s/eek.gif No where near on the same scale as yesterday but definitely feeling warm, confident and happy in a mellow contented way. A complete difference to how i'd felt for the last 12 hours of hell!

Had about 5 pints of cider and enjoyed the evening - chatting to my mate and two hot women, sampled some local bands....all good.

Got home at about 10pm, ready for my bed (yay!) and happy i could put all this madness behind me.

That is where this bitter/sweet story turns bitter again i'm afraid people.

After about 3 hours of alcohol-induced sleep (clearly not enough after being awake at this point for 39 straight hours!) BANG! I'm awake again, heart beating faster, overly stimmed with nowhere to go.http://i.bluelight.ru/s/argh.gif

lying there, nowhere near sleeping but REALLY needing to - whilst your legs jump about like they have been possessed by flatly himself - is NOT my idea of fun.

So here i am again, still not slept, still not had a proper meal in days, banging headache, random quick flashbacks of the last few days horrific events stopping me from having logical thoughts and generally knowing that my once sharp brain has been severely damaged.

My legs feel like i can't put weight on them and the muscles feel really tender and sore. And yes, still keep getting little leg spasms - i just keep checking they are not blue!!!

Oh and my dick is still like a peanut.
http://i.bluelight.ru/s/frown.gif

Three main reasons then that you should stay away from this:

1. I took waaaay too much but even then - i had about 8-10 hours of good fun and then 33 hours (and counting) of sheer hellish side-effects....that doesn't sit right with me.

2. A second 'come up', not initiated by me, a full day after first ingesting? I'll be the one to decide when i'm high thanks. The half-life of this stuff is just plain scary. How do I know i'm not gonna go off my box at work tommorow??!!

3. No one actually knows if this is real 6-apb or some other random and/or dangerous chem. No one. Even the vendor just points at a random NMR that could have been drawn by a pre-schooler with an Etcha-sketch and says "its that one..." Is it? Is it really?

Maybe i'm just too old for this shit now. Love to you all, i hope my ramblings have been useful.

OUT.

I'm quite sure we both had the same stuff which I suspect is some form of Propylhexedrine, possibly mixed with something else.

I was awake from Thursday and did not sleep until Saturday night. I feel better, but still feel as though I've just taken two energy shots through the eyeballs. My heart has taken quite a beating too.

Seems that stuff is no longer available and they now sell it in crystal form.
 
chocksaway im glad you seem to have survived a horrible experience but your actions after were daft as well. you thought you were gonna die an need hospital attention then went an had 5 pints lol
 
lmao there's always time for a pint xD

So the claimed 6-APB you suspect to be Propylhexedrine
And the claimed 5-IAI I suspect as cathinones

Seriously, I give up on RC's now, too much misinformation, too great a risk...
 
chocksaway im glad you seem to have survived a horrible experience but your actions after were daft as well. you thought you were gonna die an need hospital attention then went an had 5 pints lol

Yes. I'm a very complex and baffling character.
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I don't understand either. That said, I'm a manchester lad and i think most Northerners believe beer is just 'magic water' and 5 pints is nothing more than a simple pick-me-up.

My friend was shitting herself and very worried but she's northern too. She agreed a pint might sort me out.
 
lmao there's always time for a pint xD

So the claimed 6-APB you suspect to be Propylhexedrine
And the claimed 5-IAI I suspect as cathinones

Seriously, I give up on RC's now, too much misinformation, too great a risk...

It's cos there's so many cowboys out there sending people stimulants like powder caffeine or bashing their stock with stimulants and unless I am missing something - people don't seem to have a way of identifying these types of sellers ?
 
Indeed there are, how one rushed law amendment has encouraged so much fraudulent behaviour in such a small space of time is beyond me. I think we've all played lab rat for long enough already...Should these pellets be what is expected, I would consider it be my final RC voyage lool
 
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