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The 5-IAI Thread

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Last note before bed: I'm still showing significant stimulant effects at +25 hours - dilated pupils, some muscle tension (especially in my legs), heat and very decreased appetite.

I suspect this will be uncomfortably long-lasting at high-enough doses for any possible euphoria, but like I said earlier, it could well be that any euphoric effects were muted because I started low and increased the dose.

Jury's still out, but at least it's not inert...!
 
So basically it's over hyped!! Ok thing but not "all that"

I've tried a load of samples, i'm sure some fake and hopefullly some real and none have been "all that" ;-(
 
Ive just ingested 400mg, well see.

Also on GBL atm, and will try to augment with some 2CD later on to see wheter nuke is right about the serotonin agonism.
 
Bleh, this stuff is like a good version of MDAI, it gives some high but its pretty boring, not enough stimulation, wish i had some amp atm.
 
^^ have you had M1, how would you compare the two if you have? I supposedly have a sample coming (haven't received it yet) but if it lacks stimulation, I'm down to take it.
 
Whaha, snorted a few lines of ket, some GBL a some sprankles of 5-IAI, its a pretty decent high, but seeds more stimulation, whaha i'm guessing with M1 would be excellent.

M1 is better imo, as its more stimulation, i want stimulation whaha
 
M1 doesn't really stimulate me... I don't get why everyone else says its so stimulating. MDMA is much more stimulating than M1 for me...
 
Ok, woke up this morning at the +36 hour mark. No residual stimulation - I'm completely back to baseline, and a little bit tired-feeling. Slept like the dead last night (in a good way).
 
M1 wasn't very nice, certainly no euphoria or other positive mental effects. Physical stimulation and enough body load to stop me sleeping lasted for 12 hours from a 150-200mg (approx) dose.

Massive fail =o)
 
deckmunki said:
M1 wasn't very nice, certainly no euphoria or other positive mental effects. Physical stimulation and enough body load to stop me sleeping lasted for 12 hours from a 150-200mg (approx) dose.

Massive fail =o)
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Your problem is the (approx) - I was eyeballing methylone for a few days and was like "this shit is bunk" then I actually scaled it and realized what I thought was like 100-150mg was actually 40... with this stuff, its impossible to eyeball just like 2C-E... looks like a LOT more than it actually is... I couldn't have put my 201mg dose in a 0 size capsule... it wouldn't fit.
 
I'm gonna plug 480 ish mg soon, shame there is no stimulation, cos I love stim with my euphoria.
I have some 5-MeO-DALT, I could smoke 10mg of that for some stimulation.

Any reason they should not be mixed? Preferably let me know within the hour :)
 
For those that are disappointed with this and wondering why, I think the problem is the ratio between the receptors it has an effect on.

MDMA doesn't just release huge amounts of serotonin, but there's also a large dopamine release, and a little norepinephrine, I suspect MDAI is lacking in the dopamine department if people are finding it lacks some of the punch of MDMA. Just because it "fully substitutes" for MDMA in rats doesn't mean it has a similar effect, many chemicals that are nothing like the original chemical often "fully substitute" for them, just because similar receptors are affected.

MDMA, MMAI, 5-IAI, Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone and various others are all triple releasers/uptake inhibitors, but if you compare their effects, they are all vastly different.

This might be better at higher doses but in my opinion, don't expect much from it, if you want to give it a try, go ahead, but don't get your hopes up.
 
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^Doesn't MDAI simply act on serotonin, with little to no effect on dopamine and norepinephrine?

What are the receptor affinities for 5-IAI compared to MDMA anyways?

It was touted as a serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine releaser with similar ratios to MDMA, and I wonder how accurate those claims are, but it was also touted as a non-neurotoxic substitute for MDMA which pretty much indicated it wouldn't be anything spectacular. Non-neurotoxic MDMA replacements I have come to associate with weak chems such as MDAI, but why was this one hyped so much?
 
Yeah I'm not sure why I listed MDAI there, removed it now though.

If the ratios *are* similar as suggested, then I imagine the lack of neurotoxicity is due to it being a lot less potent than MDMA, so I imagine much higher doses would be needed. That's speculation though.
 
Don't think I need to put together a TR as I don't really have a lot more to say that can't be summed up in a few sentences here:

Plugged 400mg at around 7.30 in the evening within an hour I was feeling warm and a tiny bit 'messy'. Nothing I would consider nice or worthwhile. During that time I felt a slight pain or tightening of muscles in my hip area and around my groin. For the next few hours I was feeling nice, tingly, warm like something epic was about to happen but never did. I felt like I was drunk but clear headed, I was wobbly on my feet.

It tapered off over the next few hours so far it has been exactly how people in this thread have mentioned but here's the interesting part for me as I've not seen this mentioned yet.

As the 'effects' left me I was left feeling withdrawn and down. Not depressed or out of it but like I couldn't be bothered talking or getting involved in anything.

That night I had disturbed sleep and I got up the following morning still feeling a bit withdrawn and slightly agitated. Then again I suffered another night of not sleeping well and getting up feeling down.

As the day has gone on I have felt much more like myself and hope to sleep well tonight.
 
Well i tried my 500mg sample last night, tan powder as has been described. Allergy test followed two hours later by 250 mg bombed to no noticeable effect. An hour later took the other 250 after which I noticed a very slight warm fuzzy feeling, no mood lift. no stimulation, infact I was hungry and tired throughout.

After a couple of hours decided it wasn't going anywhere so went out to pick up some beers and food. Strange thing was when i got outside I did notice slight perceptual changes, vision was really clear and colours seemed brighter but nothing very exciting.
When I got the supermarket everything seemed weird in a way I can't really describe, sort of dreamlike, I was hit with a wave of paranoia, felt like everbody was looking at me and was sure I was going to bump into someone I knew and they would think I was fucked up even though I really wasn't at all.

Anyway was really glad to get back home and crack a beer, which did seem to add something to the effect, definately felt like I was a bit happier than just a one beer buzz.
After a couple more beers the alcohol just overpowered whatever slight effect there was from the 5-iai. Had no trouble eating or sleeping that night either.

So in conclusion 5-iai does seem to have some kind of effect but maybe needs a bigger dose, but I won't be sampling again. Glad I didn't pay for it.
 
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