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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

Inflorescence said:
For the purposes of harm reduction can I just say that CHELATED magnesium is what you need as opposed to citrate magnesium and variants which often causes severe diarrhea.

No one needs a stim come down and having to run to shit through the eye of a needle too (or a trainspotting moment)! :D
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The older I get, the less I suffer from comedowns/hangovers/anxiety. I'm sure it's all related and is purely down to having a positive attitude (or possibly crap drugs - or a ruined brain ;) )
 
Think for me it probably depends on the stim Fubar, amount of Benzos available, if I have been drinking booze wih it or not drinking enough water.

I don't think you have many years on me. I get the worse hang overs from hell from booze-even just a few glasses.It's the sleep deprivation that is the killer for most with stims I suppose.
 
Inflorescence said:
Think for me it probably depends on the stim Fubar, amount of Benzos available, if I have been drinking booze wih it or not drinking enough water.

I don't think you have many years on me. I get the worse hang overs from hell from booze-even just a few glasses.It's the sleep deprivation that is the killer for most with stims I suppose.
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It's weird, but after a 20 year opiate addiction I feel strangely invincible. Of course, this could be purely an illusion and I'm going to keel over at any min.........
 
Inflorescence said:
Think for me it probably depends on the stim Fubar, amount of Benzos available, if I have been drinking booze wih it or not drinking enough water.

I don't think you have many years on me. I get the worse hang overs from hell from booze-even just a few glasses.It's the sleep deprivation that is the killer for most with stims I suppose.
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Since I am a member of the ahem, mature group (am not a codger, F.U.BA.R.!) I'm sort of glad this substance simply isn't readily available with out risks.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
You've not encountered Fishface then I take it? He's in his 60's. Puts us young buggers to shame...
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Not yet-gives me some hope I'm not done yet!

Evening, Englander. Funny, we were just talking about deviancy and debauchery.
 
And what dear sir if I DID mind......il fight a war with you as long as I hava automatic weapons and you're armed with little more than pointy fruit.......and. I can steal your land afterwards AND be home for tea and medels and a game.of tiddlywinks in the officers mess when its all over
 
Method in the madness. I got a lot more out of necking a glass of bi-carb.

Want to know how addictive 3-FMP is, I was being treated from a perforated ulcer after a 18day/night, 20 odd gram binge. despite 15 or 30mg of oxymoron and liquid paracetamol, Remeron - couldn't sleep due to the death rattles of a some poor sod in a 'private' room.

It really is the worst hospital ever - they wheeled him out in a body bag in front of everyone in the acute ward at lunch time. At least they had 4g, I ordered 3g's to a mates who would only bring a bit (a gram) which I shared in the hospital fucking a Baltic prostitute I was in rehab with - we were going like the fucking rutting beasts we'd become. It was NYE. We got caught a couple of times - a mousey mid 20's nurse, made a unexpected visit with a suitcase of medications and novelette of directions. Which she launched into at 133bpm - the 20 second 'He's my boyfriend' and those dead wide eyes, prompted the pharmacist to casually lay the, approx, 2 kilos of medication down beside a cock ring and bate a hasty retreat.

I was in bed on all my codeine for 11pm on 31st having been discharged around 7ppm. I slept through the dawn of 2016 but when I woke to the I knew I'd ushered In the the dawn of a of a chronic depravity, prob as Turkmenistan hit the big 00.00.

We're still quite a conservative country - don't do gay cakes, can't get a drink in regular spots after 2am. You can't go on drug binges with alcoholic prostitutes even if you know them and like them and it only costs taxi fare.

That was why I was coy to answer Bearloves question, will you do it again?

I will be smashing this - im sober now, but before the ban, I will be smashing the tits outta this - They keep online advertising this hokem Nuel - All in one food in a shake. I shall be more prepared.

If you don't ripp your sack off with 3-fmp and do a ton of research as to the best holders, your missing.
 
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Hi Evey, I've been integrating back into the 'real' world. Haggling with those stubborn yellow fellows and drop shipping through Amazon FBA. Plus complying snippets for a book?

How's life?
 
Shara---be careful going for three now. Most is cut with some shite that brings on anxiety n anger bollox. Look around. Talking to someone still on it they know of a vendor but they can't tell
I n I can'f tell you - against the BLUA<

Think its ok tine to text Cloud ask him if he's ok?

Evey
 
Yea, has it gone to shit? There's some big names restocking this week, and the DM's seem full of it, albeit in brutal quantities. That's a fk lot of 3. Did you ever vape?

I can't see what harm a msg would do,
 
3: The Moon
came early (not to be taken seriously)


Ahhhhh one will miss thee
One day, so many ahead one will again see
Although you'll be cut to shit,
Not as you are now, not quite the hit
The body will ni longer contract
Oh yea cus the giv came, rules made n 3 was packed
Some looked at you n snubbed "ye simply trashwd!"
Others were smitten ao; you had um smashed

Fubz; his tears fell into the beer "I'VE A FLOPPY DICK!"
Evey , looked up "Everything gets on my wick!"
He saves lives "all is not losr, guys"
"On the stress thefe's glucousw at a tenner a gramme"
They're calling it speed, you'll convince youraelf they're not tellinf lies"

Always remember 3 is like the sun
The curtain's drawing ut away from view now,
But once it was high n was like the sun
One remembers with fondnwss, doean't regrets n whisper by as it takes its final bow


hahahahanahaha - this has given me an idea of what could an ace for all of us n a way to remember an era by being united n with fondness.

Evey 16/03/2016
 
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F.U.B.A.R. said:
Having one (?) Last blast this weekend - that's if the cunts don't burn me...
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I'd like to attain a respectable stash for the same reason alongside burying an RC era time capsule in memoriam - I would feel a strange sense of fulfillment to one day be in possession of the last few grams of the first Halophenylmorpholine to fuel the fiends of time gone by...
I consider it a pinnacle in much the same way as Bayer manufactured Heroin, Ogata's child in Pervitin or 4-MMC circa 2004.
<3
 
Sprout said:
I'd like to attain a respectable stash for the same reason alongside burying an RC era time capsule in memoriam - I would feel a strange sense of fulfillment to one day be in possession of the last few grams of the first Halophenylmorpholine to fuel the fiends of time gone by...
I consider it a pinnacle in much the same way as Bayer manufactured Heroin, Ogata's child in Pervitin or 4-MMC circa 2004.
<3
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I appreciate your sentiment mate, but it simply cannot be done. You could bury my heart at wounded knee and it would be ripped out before you could say '3'...
 
Sprout said:
Bit o' quantitative trivia to back up why I yabber on about Calcium Carbonate when using:

When using stimulants the pH of nephrotic system becomes markedly acidic due to the inherent dehydration preventing dilution of metabolic products along with insufficient Na+ intake inhibiting adequate transport of valuable electrolytes through the tubule membranes. Dysfunction of such a form is termed Renal Tubular Acidosis, the reasoning I would imagine is fairly obvious, and occurs at a pH level of 5.5 and below.

A simple but unbelievably painful consequence of chronic renal acidosis is the formation of kidney stones - formed from Uric acid, Cysteine residues and Calcium Oxalate deposits precipitating out of solution and coagulating until their mass cannot pass through the ureter.
Homeostatic basification of blood and waste occurs through secretion or retention of bicarbonate ions and respective salts.
Ensuring the system retains a stable pH is the easiest way to avoid what is often described as the most acutely painful affliction possible.

The proximal tubule functions to reabsorb ions of biological value (Na+/K+/Mg2+/Ca2+ etc.) along with glucose, amino acids and phosphate molecules among other things, from the urine prior to its transference to the bladder. During RTA the proximal tubule cannot sufficiently absorb the presented load which presents massive problems downstream within the distal tubule. Active transport of dissolved bicarbonate across the membrane results in a relative reduction in H+ secretion which indirectly worsens the acidosis once the bicarbonate ions are excreted in the urine. The consumption of Na+ by transporter proteins has a knock-on effect which ultimately results in the excessive excretion of K+. The system begins working in a desperate and self-destructive loop which worsens as time progresses.

Given Na+/K+/Mg2+/Ca2+ are responsible for the capacity of organic membranes to function along with the very ability of muscle tissue to alternate states of contraction and relaxation it should come as no surprise that insufficient concentrations result in massive systemic problems - weakness progresses to twitches, then to spasms and seizures while consciousness becomes involuntary. Cell death becomes tissue death which results in organ death and ultimately complete cessation of biological functioning.

Aside from reducing the likelihood of kidney stone formation and dying on the floor while performing an impression of a salmon on hot coals. the basification of the nephrotic system has a beneficial impact on drug metabolism, of particular importance with Amphetamines and their ilk.
At a pH of 7.0 roughly 30% is excreted completely unmetabolised, at 5.5-6 that figure skyrockets to over 60% of the dose being completely wasted!
Conversely, if the urinary pH is kept between 7.5 and 8 the vast majority of the dose undergoes the deamination pathway resulting in just 7% being excreted unchanged.

A handful of Tums and a few bottles of Gatorade are a very small price to pay for not having calcified kidneys, double the effectiveness of your drugs and continuation of your not being dead.
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Sprout, there's (fairly) recent research from Mayo suggesting increased risk for men and women for ASHD and myocardial infarction from using calcium supplements.
 
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