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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

Anyone here ever sampled any of the other PM analogues on the market?
Don't really fancy trying to import them after the ban for obvious reasons so it's now or literally never.
The iso has been in my sights for a while.
 
Anybody else actually really like this one?

I've never yet had the chance to try phenmetrazine itself, phenmetramide or phendimetrazine, but phenmetrazine in particular used to be phenomenally popular amongst tweaker types under the name preludin. It gained quite a reputation as one of the top notch upper crust of the stimulant world. I'm inclined to say the same goes for its 3-fluorinated analog. Packs a wallop, yet seems pretty forgiving in terms of crash, although I should say that I'm on a fair few regular daily meds that could act as comedown suppressants, such as clonidine, tizanidine, oxy, morphine, chlormethiazole and gabapentin, so any comedown is relatively easy to browbeat down into submission.

But given OCCASIONAL use, no more than a couple of grams at any one time (not per dose, although I've pushed the boat out on this one a bit)
Nice, really, really nice. Low levels of peripheral stimulation, some vasoconstriction noted at higher levels, very functional if used that way, but works pretty well for plain good ol' fuckedupness. Comes into its own if used for a speedball though, fuck me diagonally with a bramble-infested wasp nest if doing an 0.5/0.7g 3-FPM/morphine sulfate IV ball in the bogs of a manchester burger king the other week didn't hit me for six about ten seconds after emptying the rig, and leave me absolutely fizzing. Much more and I'd have been seeing corona discharge streamers and St.Elmo's fire flickering from my fingertips haha.

I wonder if were going to be seeing more phenmetrazine analogs turn up. Its about time that this class of famed, but rare stimulants got explored some more.

3-fluorophenmetramide is one I'd like to see, the beta-ketone homolog of 3-FPM, as phenmetramide is to phenmetrazine.

I saw 3-FPM first through a local brick-and-mortar headshop, and the lass serving me told me that within a week of its introduction, they had been selling like hot cakes to famine victims, becoming really, really popular round here. You can't walk within about half a mile of a head shop for seeing discarded little blue strips, that are the tops of packets of this compound, after opening, the bit that gets torn off, those are littering round the place, especially in places that seem to have one or more hobos (surprise there, no?).

Just setting off now myself to grab some 3-FPM, MXP (swines had to stop carrying diphenidine, bastards) and some smoke blend as I've no contacts for a bud right now, no working phone. Been getting a bit fed up with N-cumyl-1-(5-fluoropentyl)indazole-3-carboxamide though, because of its frustratingly short duration, stuff is the crack of the CB1r agonist world, and ungodly potent, possibly more so than HU-210 even, I'd estimate inhaled doses to be fully active at 50-100mcg or so, based on vaping a 1mg/ml solution in PG through my E-fag. Took just 2-3 tokes to hit like a runaway tank, I shudder to think what would happen if ever this stuff became widely sold in powder form.
 
Have a flick through the 71 pages on it, a number of us really, really like this one. ;)

Easily one of the best RC's ever.
That is what happens when the very best in fiend pharm. gets to play. ;)

At least 7 x-PM's have been released but were left to eat 3's dust.
There's a good few modifications that I'd love to see.
 
Oh yes, do tell, I'm interested in seeing where these phenylmorpholines might go.

Out of curiosity, given that they appear to have at least a passing similarity to the cathinones, amphetamines, do you know if its possible within this pharmacophore to end up with 5HT2a agonists? a 6th potential backbone to play with, with respect to psychedelics of the serotonergic ilk would be interesting to say the least, after the phenethylamines, amphetamines, lysergamides, cathinone derivatives and ketanserin-lookalike structures like RH-34.

What sort of structural tweaking (pun intended) had you envisioned? I don't know the SAR anywhere nearly as well as I do for amphetamines. Let us just hope there is no oncoming trainwreck to be seen in the near future after releasing something that turned out to be a serotonergic neurotoxin ala 6,7-dihydroxytryptamine, para-haloamphetamines without further ring substitution etc.

I hadn't the patience to read 71 pages worth of tweaksturbation though. That may however change come the passage of about an hour from now =D

Certainly as far as stimulants go, this has to be the best so far for me.
 
So, after a lengthy break from miss 3-F, I am having a steady dabble with her this evening.

I'm having an issue though. It's taking me an age to feel anything. I have had 3 doses in almost 3.5 hours and the effects are very, very mild.

Rather disappointing if truth be told, if not a little confusing. I did have one dose of 4F-EPH yesterday morning and did sleep last night but I'm just curious as to whether yesterday's dose of 4F is causing this mild reaction to tonight's doses of 3-F?

Any ideas chummies?

Hope you're all fine and dandy x
 
Could be lingering effects of the 4F, could be the same stuff FUBAR's had that takes forever to kick in. I didn't think DNRIs had a blocking effect on DNRAs like SSRIs do on SRAs, and I wouldn't have thought 4F would have enough halflife to screw things today, but Sprout's the sapient brassica to ask on the subject.
 
Cheers squidlet.

I'll wait for the master sprout to share his vast array of knowledge.

You may have to wait. He's in FUBARS wardrobe. actually it's a door to another dimension that's perpetually winter but that's a story for another day. But don't worry the time space continuum is different and he will emerge soon with a huge shiny sword thinking he is a prince. Love you mister mod x
 
You may have to wait. He's in FUBARS wardrobe. actually it's a door to another dimension that's perpetually winter but that's a story for another day. But don't worry the time space continuum is different and he will emerge soon with a huge shiny sword thinking he is a prince. Love you mister mod x

what's he doing in my fuckin wardrobe? Sprout, get back in my ball sac you cunt! I might need your modrod in a bit...
 
And like a pervy stim ninja he appears! ;)

Regarding the 3: Mr Occam's shaving implement suggests it could very well just be bunk.
The quality is nowhere near as consistent as it was a year ago.

The increased lipophilicity of F-EPD could extend its half life far past that of its predecessor and so be blocking the releasing capacity of 3-FPM.

How much and how are you using? :)
 
Thanks squid. I will take it very easily.

I'm going to give it an hour, which will make it 2 hours since last dose, then have a small plug.

I used plug all of the time with 3-F (and other illegal drugs) but just got lazy tonight.
 
Stimja...
Fucking gold, Mr Boa. :)

Milz, plugging is a million times more effective than snooting - one bonus is not feeling your olfactory canal liquefy...
50mg plugged should provide a decent effect profile if the quality is anywhere near good.
 
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