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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

Sounds typical of when that lovely sponge of neurotransmitters, that is your brain, gets a good prolonged squeezing. The solution is to throw it back into the bath of rest and good diet.
 
As a general note, if you find a something acts as a trigger for cravings, the best response, especially if you feel your willpower is not up to scratch for whatever reason (such as many weeks of stimulant abuse), is to just stay away from that trigger until you have your subconscious back under control. Then you can work on breaking down that response, or if that doesn't work out just accept that you need to change your life around to avoid falling back into rampant addiction and destroying yourself in the process. Sure it sucks if that involves cutting off old friends, but the important thing is to take the time to get yourself sorted first, then you can see if you can rekindle those relationships once they aren't putting you at risk.
 
Eveleivibe said:
But I liked doing it this wasn't my choice. It never is.
Thanks tho

Please dont anyone say "recovery" to me. I desiae tgat word. I despise this. I'd still be enjoying this now had someone not interfered n ran off like a coward. I'll leave this there cause im still extremely angry n hurt over the whole betrayal n the way the person just gets away with messing my whole life up Grrrr :\ my initial reaxtion was to get even but they will have tp live with what they've done :(
No point in revenge it makes me just as bad :( I'm leaving it with God to sort out for me. God always answers my prayers tho nor always the way I like but He knows best.

Evey
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I don't think you get it, vibez. You've OD'd and been reckless so many times, it scares people. This site is very dangerous - littered with deaths - and people are always looking to impress their drug habits onto others *cough, josh just attempting to get you into 2C drugs*.

The site clearly doesn't appear to do anything about your reckless use, so as far as i can see those who actually care take it into their own hands and i commend that person for doing that.

I won't go on coz dont want to cause drama, perhaps continue this in a PM
 
Raasyvibe said:
I don't think you get it, vibez. You've OD'd and been reckless so many times, it scares people. This site is very dangerous - littered with deaths - and people are always looking to impress their drug habits onto others *cough, josh just attempting to get you into 2C drugs*.

The site clearly doesn't appear to do anything about your reckless use, so as far as i can see those who actually care take it into their own hands and i commend that person for doing that.

I won't go on coz dont want to cause drama, perhaps continue this in a PM
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This is shocking, shame on josh.

What about smackydowners suggesting DMT might not be a bad move for her the other day? Shocking, shame on him.

Repent motherfuckers, Re-pent.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
3fpm is a stimulant yes, but it ain't speed, in the same way that ephedrine ain't speed.
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True, but it's an amphetamine, no?
See - we call meth "speed" over here, and you guys call sulphate "speed".
To me it's a slang term referring to amphetamine stimulants - i personally see it as fairly interchangeable.
It's obviously debateable as to how specifically one uses the word "speed".
It's all much of a muchness to me, but in this instance it might make a difference to be more specific, true enough.
 
spacejunk said:
True, but it's an amphetamine, no?
See - we call meth "speed" over here, and you guys call sulphate "speed".
To me it's a slang term referring to amphetamine stimulants - i personally see it as fairly interchangeable.
It's obviously debateable as to how specifically one uses the word "speed".
It's all much of a muchness to me, but in this instance it might make a difference to be more specific, true enough.
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That's exactly it. 'Speed' is the common term for amphetamines. However, 3fpm isn't an amphetamine, it's a methylmorpholine which is a different class of stimulants. The cathinones are another class of stimulants that you wouldn't call speed. I think that's the case anyway, though I'm prepared to be corrected.
 
Raasyvibe said:
The site clearly doesn't appear to do anything about your reckless use, so as far as i can see those who actually care take it into their own hands and i commend that person for doing that.
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You talk a lot of sense, Raasy. Yes, people who genuinely care will intervene. There seems to be too much indulgence of problem drug users around here, and most everybody plays at ignoring the stinking pachyderm in the room. I'm heartened to hear of this.
 
Evey, from what i can gather someone turned off your 3 supply. Id say that person done you a favour.
Some people can do stims without any apparent side effects by doing it and recovering. You didnt do that, you kept on going & going. Unless you were trying to kill yourself it was idiotic to do that.

My advice is leave it out and in a few days/week youll be back to normal. Multi day benders and reality starts getting blurred where you dont know whats normal anymore.

Stay safe as they say...
 
PioneerPin said:
You talk a lot of sense, Raasy. Yes, people who genuinely care will intervene. There seems to be too much indulgence of problem drug users around here, and most everybody plays at ignoring the stinking pachyderm in the room. I'm heartened to hear of this.
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Forcing a person to do something against their will simply does not work. Who is anyone to force another person to live the way that they deem correct or safe or healthy or responsible or best for 'them'. If, in this case a person has stopped the use of one vendor - then another vendor will be found, if they have circumvented the payment method, then another will be made, delivery point, time, signed for etc

There are plenty of people watching out for each other in this section - if one of us is going off the rails or we see a problematic pattern showing up then a lot of people will mention this. Evey and 3FPM was/is no different - ultimately if a person wishes to ignore the warnings then that is their choice as an adult.
 
Bearlove said:
Forcing a person to do something against their will simply does not work.
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On the contrary; sometimes it is necessary to save people from themselves, be it a patient detained under the Mental Health Act, a problem gambler or a drug addict. As for people looking after each other, I see none of that in this forum. In fact, I've seen constructive criticism removed or jumped on by moderators several times, especially with regard to Evie in recent times. It's absolutely sickening, and only encourages further drug abuse.
 
PioneerPin said:
On the contrary; sometimes it is necessary to save people from themselves, be it a patient detained under the Mental Health Act, a problem gambler or a drug addict. As for people looking after each other, I see none of that in this forum. In fact, I've seen constructive criticism removed or jumped on by moderators several times, especially with regard to Evie in recent times. It's absolutely sickening, and only encourages further drug abuse.
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Again who are you (not you but) to make that choice? Mental health issues are something else, you would not get somebody sectioned because they chose to take xyz substance. You cannot forcibly 'fix' a person that does not want to be fixed.

You can forcibly remove an addiction but the 'problem' as you see it will remain. You have been a member for two weeks, you have probably lurked for a while before joining up. If you read the 3PFM or the gibbering threads you will see many warning about using stims for Evey, When Max was using a lot of Benzos we all told him to be careful etc, Julie starting to get heroin and a few other people on a few other substances.

If you have read the posts from Evey, she has clearly stated that by telling her or forcing her not to do something has the opposite effect as she will go out of her way to do it more. Telling her the dangers, the risks and sharing our concerns (which has been done over pages of posts) is therefore more productive for her than simply telling her - don't do drugs.
 
PioneerPin said:
We ended up staging an intervention, during which he was confined to my house, allowed no drugs whatsoever and subjected to cold showers at at hourly intervals until the heroin began to leave his system. Initially he was quite resistant, and became violent, but I allowed those participating in the intervention to inflict minor body blows on him. Give or take a couple of broken ribs, he emerged intact and in better health than ever, and was extremely thankful to us all. I'm proud of this success, and very proud of him.
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I see you idea of help - I am wasting my time discussing this with you so I simply agree to disagree with your views, thoughts on the matter.
 
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