i don't want to misunderstand your position so help me understand it?
individual black south africans should not be welcome because all black south africans suck? and by extension, individual white south africans are welcome - or, at very least, should be judged on their individual merits - because white south africans don't suck?
it's a pretty simple yes or no question so a simple yes or no should suffice. thanks.
Not playing your binary bullshit games my friend. I'll give you the full explanation of how I feel;
As I've said numerous times already in this thread, there is such a thing is a healthy immigration policy that discriminates properly on who should be allowed in to a country and who shouldn't. White African farmers on the whole are going to be far more acceptable and easier to integrate (to USA, UK, EU) than pulling from the general black population of South Africa. If that makes you uncomfortable that's your problem but anyone with a brain knows that is true. It is what it is.
Yes you still have to screen all candidates, regardless of their skin colour. Was that even in doubt? In your mind in relation to me, yes, because you guys just won't give up trying to frame and paint people into a corner so you can go "Ah HA! A racist/homophobe/etc etc". Those of us in the real world who are bolted to reality
keep saying we need a proper immigration system, with the proper checks.. that is the whole bloody argument.
A white Albanian would be easier to integrate than a black South African, but that still doesn't mean we'd just let them in without checking.. especially with Albanian's, because, like the black South African's, they currently have a real issue in their culture with violence and crime. As evidenced by the issues the UK faces with Albanian gangs operating here, for example.
Would I want loads of black South Africans in my country? Absolutely not. Not until there culture is more aligned with our own, not until their psychology has levelled out - a nation that has been through tremendous upheaval is not going to produce stable psychology in people, and combined with the black predilection for violent outbursts that is not a great mix. Call me racist, I don't care. I've already pointed out that they are holding
massive political rallies chanting "Kill the boer!" and doing little tribal dancing jigs to it.. sorry, but that is demonstrable evidence that they are not on par with where we are in the West. We do not need that shit here thank you very much, we are past political parties outright calling for murder.
that's not accurate.
obviously, the specific numbers depend on your source but, according to the world population review, south africa doesn't even make the top 20 (murder rate per 100k). according to the unodc it ranks 5th.
given that neither the south african police, nor the government, publish official stats by race, i'm interested to know where you're getting your numbers?
The fact that the numbers are disputed and vary wildly should suggest to you that perhaps South Africa is not a great country, eh? If they can't even produce their own reliable data then that speaks volumes in itself doesn't it. If we can't trust them to accurately produce statistics on
violent crime and murder.. then that just lends weight to my argument that they suck as a people and we don't need that shit in our countries.
The situation can be re-evaluated once they sort themselves out, but until then.. no thanks.
When compared to other countries, South Africa has notably high rates of violent crime[6] and has a reputation for consistently having one of the highest murder rates in the world.[7][8][9] The country also experiences high rates of organised crime relative to other countries.[10][11] - Wikipedia
South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world, according to the latest figures from the
United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. There were more than 27,000 murders last year; that amounts to 45 people per 100,000. For comparison, the US rate is six per 100,000. - The BBC reporting on UN figures:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2jlyl20lzo